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World Cup Soccer XVII: There can only be ONE!!!11!!!

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I don't care. I wanted Spain to win. I've dealt with a Dutch company over the years and they threw me under the bus. I'm happy today.

It's mitigated by the fact that De Jong should have easily been sent off and the Dutch should have been playing with 10 men for a lot longer, if it's any consolation on potential controversy.
 
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Robben had a couple of breakaway chances to blow the game open for the Dutch, but failed to put either one one away, while Spain buried it's best chance.

Game over. Cup over.

A very enjoyable month - ESPN, with a little help from Team USA brought soccer to a new level in this country.
 
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Did Paul the Octopus pick correctly?

Yes, he did.


So, we go from the World Cup to a month of friendlies between teams like Club America and Manchester City. :(

I'm starting a rumor that Arsenal is interested in signing Gooch Unweyu. :cool:



Who won the various USCHO pick 'em contests?
 
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Overall, I wasn't pleased with the officiating today. I think there were a lot of ticky tack cards and fouls called today. However, they do sort of make up for a lot of the calls that should have been harsher (see: de Jong's karate kick that should've been a red).

While the officiating was mediocre at best, the Dutch have no excuse. They deserved alot of what they got and the better team clearly won.

Also: how funny is it that the one time Robben doesn't dive... he probably should have?
 
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Does anyone else think the diving epidemic has been brought on by the refs and could just as easily be done away with by them? If a player gets grabbed or fouled in any way and tries to stay up nothing will get called. There becomes no incentive to actually try to stay up with the ref waiting to see if there is any advantage before calling play back. It was the same type of thing in the NHL until they actually started calling penalties on any hooks or holds. Just a thought, was curious what everyone else thought about it.
 
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Except, of course, that the Dutch free kick that went just wide right before that after hitting off the Spanish wall was called a goal kick instead of a corner - and the ensuing goal kick began the sequence that led to the goal. Iniesta might have been onside but he shouldn't have been in a position to be doing anything there.

That goal kick was the most bizarre call of the entire match.

Why is it that every picture of the celebration shows Puyol front and center? The guy is really annoying. People moan about Van Bommel, and rightly so, but Puyol is like a Spanish Van Bommel, getting away with far more than he should. He was fortunate to not get sent off on that Robben breakaway when he was interfering with Robben.

Overall the Spanish definitely deserved the win though. Nice to see Cesc set up the winner.
 
Re: World Cup Soccer XVII: There can only be ONE!!!11!!!

Does anyone else think the diving epidemic has been brought on by the refs and could just as easily be done away with by them? If a player gets grabbed or fouled in any way and tries to stay up nothing will get called. There becomes no incentive to actually try to stay up with the ref waiting to see if there is any advantage before calling play back. It was the same type of thing in the NHL until they actually started calling penalties on any hooks or holds. Just a thought, was curious what everyone else thought about it.

I see the same thing in my kid's youth games. Only calls are when someone hits the ground - and maybe not then. I thought the game was supposed to be skill based. Not who can push the other guy around. Had a game against a Winnipeg team this AM, we had a younger player playing up with us. He's a Spanish exchange student and more skilled than anyone on the field, also smaller. He did next to nothing today cause the Canadian kids leaned on him all game, just pushed him off the ball. Unlike most Spaniards, this kid didn't dive all weekend ;) .
 
Re: World Cup Soccer XVII: There can only be ONE!!!11!!!

I see the same thing in my kid's youth games. Only calls are when someone hits the ground - and maybe not then. I thought the game was supposed to be skill based. Not who can push the other guy around. Had a game against a Winnipeg team this AM, we had a younger player playing up with us. He's a Spanish exchange student and more skilled than anyone on the field, also smaller. He did next to nothing today cause the Canadian kids leaned on him all game, just pushed him off the ball. Unlike most Spaniards, this kid didn't dive all weekend ;) .

I mean shoulder to shoulder contact is perfectly legal as long as theres an attempt to play the ball.
 
Re: World Cup Soccer XVII: There can only be ONE!!!11!!!

I see the same thing in my kid's youth games. Only calls are when someone hits the ground - and maybe not then. I thought the game was supposed to be skill based. Not who can push the other guy around. Had a game against a Winnipeg team this AM, we had a younger player playing up with us. He's a Spanish exchange student and more skilled than anyone on the field, also smaller. He did next to nothing today cause the Canadian kids leaned on him all game, just pushed him off the ball. Unlike most Spaniards, this kid didn't dive all weekend ;) .
He's young yet...they don't teach diving fundamentals until U16....
 
Re: World Cup Soccer XVII: There can only be ONE!!!11!!!

Does anyone else think the diving epidemic has been brought on by the refs and could just as easily be done away with by them? If a player gets grabbed or fouled in any way and tries to stay up nothing will get called. There becomes no incentive to actually try to stay up with the ref waiting to see if there is any advantage before calling play back. It was the same type of thing in the NHL until they actually started calling penalties on any hooks or holds. Just a thought, was curious what everyone else thought about it.

That's what's really frustrating I think. It's not like the sport needs a drastic overhaul of the rules. Just tell the referees to enforce the rules as they are written, and the game is pretty much set.
 
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The refs are so bad, a lot of players feel the need to go to ground easily to get the call they deserve.

Some refs believe if you don't go down, its not a foul.
 
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Another rule I want to see enforced is the rule that states a player motioning for another player to receive a yellow card will earn himself a yellow card as well. That would help to do away with the huddling around referees.
 
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