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World Championships: U18 and Women’s
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robertearle
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It sounds like we have some good folks in here that are going to become referees to help fix things so that's exciting news. Good luck to all of you who are going to bring your expertise to our game in the near future. Just remember to call it both ways! ; )
I can't even stand up on skates.
robertearle
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Final from the Bronze game: Finland three goals (a hat trick for Vanhanan ) and three pipes and a wiped out extra attack goal for Sweden.
Congrats to Canada. Tough one for the US. Very enjoyable to watch them all.
I’m so happy for all those BC kids, especially captain Brooke Disher, who used to call northern BC home.
I didn’t think getting Jade Iginla back would be enough.... and certainly it wasn’t just her, but wow she is such a little spark plug, no quit in her, forcing US turnovers all over the place.
I’m so happy for all those BC kids, especially captain Brooke Disher, who used to call northern BC home.
I didn’t think getting Jade Iginla back would be enough.... and certainly it wasn’t just her, but wow she is such a little spark plug, no quit in her, forcing US turnovers all over the place.
robertearle
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The only explanation I have - and I don't know that it is much of one - is that the US team arrived more "fully formed", without much room for improvement, while the other teams benefited greatly by the week of games playing with one another. Because compared to last Thursday, Canada was two steps quicker and that meant winning more of the 50-50 pucks and less time-and-space for the US, and all the other cliches. Just night and day, the experience of the two nights compared to one another.
I'm pretty shocked. Did not expect that, not in the slightest.
(i spent all five US games sitting next to the mother of the US goalie, Annelies Bergmann, which was a delight and a pleasure in a number of ways. While she was disappointed tonight, she was more sanguine, I think, than I was. She said something to the effect that it will take Annelies a day or two to process, and then it wil be on to the next thing. Ah, to be young again. She's headed to Cornell, so for the next few years, when it doesn't bump into Wisconsin, i become a Cornell fan.)
I'm pretty shocked. Did not expect that, not in the slightest.
(i spent all five US games sitting next to the mother of the US goalie, Annelies Bergmann, which was a delight and a pleasure in a number of ways. While she was disappointed tonight, she was more sanguine, I think, than I was. She said something to the effect that it will take Annelies a day or two to process, and then it wil be on to the next thing. Ah, to be young again. She's headed to Cornell, so for the next few years, when it doesn't bump into Wisconsin, i become a Cornell fan.)
When a team makes that kind of change/improvement in that short of a timeframe, the answer is coaching. Canada did a better job when it counted; from beginning of tournament to end of tournament. The broadcast team mentioned how the Canadian coach was able to get their players to believe in themselves and their abilities, and you could see it on the ice tonight. The US coaches didn't appear to know what to do in terms of making adjustments to Canada's improved on-ice performance, so they made none, at least none that I could see. Katie looked duped and distraught afterwards. She and her staff were outcoached, plain and simple.
When a team makes that kind of change/improvement in that short of a timeframe, the answer is coaching. Canada did a better job when it counted; from beginning of tournament to end of tournament. The broadcast team mentioned how the Canadian coach was able to get their players to believe in themselves and their abilities, and you could see it on the ice tonight. The US coaches didn't appear to know what to do in terms of making adjustments to Canada's improved on-ice performance, so they made none, at least none that I could see. Katie looked duped and distraught afterwards. She and her staff were outcoached, plain and simple.[/QUOTE]
Can't disagree. The Canadians vastly improved throughout the tournament while it seemed the US stalled after the preliminary round. Sometimes beating your opponent so badly in a recent meaningless game turns out badly when they play with something at stake (Think Miracle on Ice when the Russians hammered the US pre Olympics).
Last night was the only game I attended in person after watching all previous games on TV. All I can say is wow, that was a great atmosphere and the future of women's hockey is bright. Hard to believe these young ladies are high school age. So much talent on the ice at such a young age.
One thing I found interesting. Jerome Iginla and his wife were both wearing Wisconsin sweatshirts. I know Jade is gong to Brown this fall. They must have forgotten to pack a Canadian or Brown sweatshirt and at spur of the moment bought Wisconsin wear to keep warm in LaBahn Arena
Can't disagree. The Canadians vastly improved throughout the tournament while it seemed the US stalled after the preliminary round. Sometimes beating your opponent so badly in a recent meaningless game turns out badly when they play with something at stake (Think Miracle on Ice when the Russians hammered the US pre Olympics).
Last night was the only game I attended in person after watching all previous games on TV. All I can say is wow, that was a great atmosphere and the future of women's hockey is bright. Hard to believe these young ladies are high school age. So much talent on the ice at such a young age.
One thing I found interesting. Jerome Iginla and his wife were both wearing Wisconsin sweatshirts. I know Jade is gong to Brown this fall. They must have forgotten to pack a Canadian or Brown sweatshirt and at spur of the moment bought Wisconsin wear to keep warm in LaBahn Arena
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Yes to both of these. That tournament was amazing, the talent everywhere is evident to have it against the backdrop of a city that supports its women’s college hockey and local hockey was fantastic.
An image that I really liked was at the very end of the tsn coverage, Vicky Sunohara lifted the trophy and all the girls were screaming, and there was just something about a ‘98 Olympian being surrounded by a team that we know had a different geographical makeup than once could have been expected. Truly a picture that reminded of the long term progress in the IIHF era, despite the daily struggles. Not just the geography but, but these high schoolers being coached by those who came before them, and never got these opportunities, or this level of visibility.
The TSN coverage set a new standard, and Wisconsin made a case that they should host a frozen four, rules be damned.
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Only if they change that overhead main camera position. That sucked and came across as very amateurish and improvised like they had never seen a televised hockey game before so they just stuck that camera in anywhere they could find that seemed good enough, but it wasn't good enough at all. Is that really the best location they have available for the main camera???? They need to find a more normal position for it. I would not pay to watch a game there online if that's the regular location of their game-camera. It was terrible to watch from that ridiculously high angle.
robertearle
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Tell me you just watched your first telecast from LaBahn without telling me you just watched your first telecast from LaBahn.
Tell me you just watched your first telecast from LaBahn without telling me you just watched your first telecast from LaBahn.
Lmao, ok. I don't choose to pay to watch games that are almost a given before the game starts. I don't find it compelling so I rarely watch the top teams by choice because the outcomes are so freaking predictable, and if they do get upset by someone on rare occasion it doesn't bother me that I missed it. I also get very bored reading so many posts about the top teams, so I don't read most of that crap either. Sorry to burst your bubble. And to repeat what I said previously, that is absolutely the worst camera angle I have ever seen. Somebody fix it! Lol
robertearle
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What you do or don't watch and read is of no importance to me. My "bubble" is just fine.
Oh good. Then get in your bubble, float up to the rafters, and take down that camera from that ridiculous and amateurish location and place it somewhere normal. What an embarrassment especially for such a highly ranked D1 program like that! It's shocking. Tsk, tsk.
robertearle
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I doubt that anyone associated with the UW hockey program particularly cares about your opinion of their telecasts. They are doing OK, despite.
Hate to burst your... well, you know.
A school and program of that stature shouldn't be satisfied with just "doing ok," regardless of any one person's opinion. That's a D3 attitude. Shameful for a program like theirs. Are they simply not aware of how brutal that camera angle is or maybe it's complacency that has set it so they just don't care anymore. Either way, two wrongs don't make right. Only three lefts make a right. Not caring about improving their broadcasts is disappointing. You've been easy and fun to play with. Have a great night. Lol
robertearle
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Well, learn to deal with it, or don't watch. Because that's the way it is, and that's the way it will be. The building is the building; been that way since 2012, whether you were watching or not.
(And it just hosted a very successful international tournament, despite your disappointment.)
ManBehindTheCurtain
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I have watched a minimum of two games each season from Labahn every season since its opening. Most seasons I watch at least a couple more. This past season with the improvement of the WCHA streaming package I watched all or large parts of I think eight. Before Labahn opened I usually watched two games each season from Kohl. In general, the video from Labahn is a big improvement from Kohl. The one area where it is emphatically not an improvement is in the placement of the main camera. The Labahn camera placement is at an unusually high angle. The overhead angle has in my opinion less depth of field. You see mainly that overhead perspective and therefore see less of the cross ice perspective that most of us have become accustomed to from in person viewing and the usual TV or streaming broadcast. Further the Labahn main view has a blockage of some sort along the bottom edge of the viewing area (possibly a press box rail?). The camera angle is not ideal.
Lmao, I just couldn't resist.....clearly the truth hurts, as it should because none of what you've said has anything to do with the fact that the camera angle sucks and that they should care about and be looking for ways to improve it and make it close to normal. Every hockey team cares about and looks for ways to improve. The people responsible for broadcasting games there should do the same. The quality of the broadcast is very sub-par because of what would seem to be an easy fix, yet you are hell-bent on defending it. I think you should have enough pride in all facets of the program to simply admit it sucks and that it should be addressed because it's really really really easy to fix, I promise.