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Women's Beanpot 2013 -- The Year's Only Competitive Beanpot

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Was that the event in Winnipeg ?. Luongo was indeed the goaler on that team and he was named Goaltender of the tourney. Tom Renne was the Coach. Canada won that game vs Finland 6-4, but ended up falling to the Russians, 3-2 in the final.

Yes, it was in Winnipeg and Renne was the coach. Was at that Gold Medal Game as well...you could cut the tension with a knife.
 
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Harvard-Princeton men's game back in mid 2000's at Harvard. Harvard goes up 8-2 or 8-3 with about 10 minutes left in the game. Princeton coach starts pulling the goalie every time Princeton gets the puck deep into the Harvard zone. Princeton suddenly looks like a different team and Harvard has no idea what to do. Final score Harvard 8, Princeton 6. And if I remember correctly, Princeton hit a couple of posts also. Last 5 minutes of the game played in near total (stunned) silence - might have been a sellout - could hear the players talking on the ice crystal clearly.

Great story.
 
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Yes, it was in Winnipeg and Renne was the coach. Was at that Gold Medal Game as well...you could cut the tension with a knife.

Did you happen to go to the 2005 event in ND, with the likes of Crosby, Malkin and Ovechin playing in the final?. That was probably one of the most stacked Canadian squads ever....Crosby, Bergeron, Carter, Richards and Getzlaf up front, Weber, Phaneuf and Seabrook in the back. They beat Malkin/Ovechin and Co 6-1 in the final.
 
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Did you happen to go to the 2005 event in ND, with the likes of Crosby, Malkin and Ovechin playing in the final?. That was probably one of the most stacked Canadian squads ever....Crosby, Bergeron, Carter, Richards and Getzlaf up front, Weber, Phaneuf and Seabrook in the back. They beat Malkin/Ovechin and Co 6-1 in the final.

No, didn't go to that one but watched it all. Kind of regretted not going afterward...so close and in the most gorgeous hockey arena on the planet, at least that I'm aware of...complete and utter domination of the tournament...it was a sight to behold. They chased Ovechkin out of the game in the second period and he didn't return. Seabrook was sick for most of that tournament as I remember.
 
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I don't think so. If she doesn't cheat on the line, she can't catch the pass.
I was right at center ice behind the penalty box...... even if she didn't "catch" the pass, she had such a head start on the next closest BU skater that she probably could have collected the puck, circled the net, performed a triple lutz, and still have time to slip the puck in the net.
 
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Back in the 'Seventies or 'Eighties the NHL's tie-breaker algorithm for playoff seeding was based on goals scored in the season, rather than goal differential, and Scotty Bowman, down by a couple, pulled his goalie in the middle of the second period of the final game, opting to prevail via goals-per-season rather than via winning the game being played. The Habs held the other team to single digits for the whole game (nine if I recall) and scored about five in the final 30 minutes of 6-on-5 -- but not enough to get the seed they wanted.
 
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Additional instances of offbeat goalie-pulling situations, all from a single week in February '11:

PrincetonFan initially wrote:

An interesting strategy at game's end: down 4-1, with less than two minutes to go, two Tigers ended up in the box. The Yale coach did not pull his goalie, giving his team a three-skater advantage. Why not? You're down three goals, and your playoff chances are on the line. I would have pulled the goalie and told her to put her feet up. Losing 5-1 isn't much worse than losing 4-1.

And I responded:

Interesting -- Katey Stone had a somewhat similar situation against Cornell the same day, down one in the final two minutes, one (rather than two) opponents in the box, and chose to keep the goalie in net. A potential 6-on-4, though, not 6-on-3; one goal differential, not two.

and further pointed out:

Today SLU pulled their goalie down 4 with 6 minutes to go. Got scored on after about 2 minutes and put a goalie back in. Probably a good idea to get accustomed to 6-on-5 play in this uncharacteristic situation for them (they had previously been tied with Harvard into the 3rd period in one game and until the last 7 seconds of overtime in the other, so they may very well be playing 6-on-5 before the current series is over).

And OnMAA then responded:

Cornell pulled their goalie at 18:04 after a Timeout. They were on the PP at the time. PP ended at 18:36. They scored at 19:53 with the ET on. I suspect the Timeout late in that PP that started at 16:35 was to rest the first unit and pull the goaler.

And Skate78 joined the discussion:

I wonder if that Cornell game mattered to Harvard (finishing with home ice vs traveling for the first round of the playoffs) if Katey would have pulled the goalie in that situation and really went for the tying goal. Also, suppose in that SLU game up in Canton, Harvard needed the win or risk dropping from second place to fourth or worse. Would Coach Stone have pulled Bellamy in a tie game to try and win it?

I seem to recall that in '06 we pulled our goalie in the last minute of OT against Clarkson and scored with seven seconds remaining to win it to secure home ice for the first round of the playoffs. I think Jennifer Raimondi got the winner in that game. Had we tied that game, we would have been forced to make a return trip to Potsdam.

After which I reported:

Lightning strikes again: today SLU again pulled their goaler down 4 with 6 minutes to go, this time with a PP about to begin. Unlike yesterday, when the 6-on-5 situation made Harvard appropriately conservative about gaining the red line before shooting, today's 6-on-4 situation saw Harvard D's blasting away and eventually a 150-footer went in.
 
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Back in the 'Seventies or 'Eighties the NHL's tie-breaker algorithm for playoff seeding was based on goals scored in the season, rather than goal differential, and Scotty Bowman, down by a couple, pulled his goalie in the middle of the second period of the final game, opting to prevail via goals-per-season rather than via winning the game being played. The Habs held the other team to single digits for the whole game (nine if I recall) and scored about five in the final 30 minutes of 6-on-5 -- but not enough to get the seed they wanted.

Ahh yes Scotty Bowman, the master genius NHL coach, left nothing to chance....His Montreal teams won four cups in a row from 76 to 79, and Bowman went on to win a bunch more with the Wings and the Pens....I think he has 8 or 9 rings in total.....BTW...Must-a-been the 70's if it was with the Habs, cause Bowman went to Buffalo in 79, right after the Habs won their fourth consecutive cup, as he was not pleased with the fact they did not offer him the GM job, despite all his successes.

I've seen teams in minor hockey pull goalies as early as the second period, when trailing by a goal or two in tournament games. You sometimes see this, when goal differential becomes an issue. One time our coach pulled the goalie in a tied game with 90 seconds left. We lost the game 2-1 and some parents went ballistic on the coach. Some parents were more interested in not losing the last game, than winning with a chance to advance.
 
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The other semifinal was dominated by goaltenders most of the way. The Eagles’ Corinne Boyles and Harvard’s Emerance Maschmeyer were still perfect through 40 minutes.

Finally, Mary Parker got a second-chance opportunity with Boyles down and flipped it over her for a lead for Harvard 4:52 into the final frame.

Crimson coach Katey Stone was very disappointed by her team’s defensive breakdowns that followed. The first came two and a half minutes after taking the lead. BC’s Ashley Motherwell picked off a Harvard clearing attempt and got the puck to Emily Field. She spotted Dana Trivigno alone on the weak side. Trivigno’s shot went over Maschmeyer as she tried to slide across to tie the score.

Nine minutes later, Taylor Wasylk scored the deciding goal in BC’s 2-1 win.

“Lexi Bender on the point got the puck, and there was two people on the ground, so I saw an opening and just went to the net,” Wasylk said. “She made an awesome play and hit me. I don’t think I even knew it was coming; it just kind of hit my stick and went in.”

Harvard tried to rally over the final four minutes, but Boyles stymied them as she did for most of the night. She finished with 40 saves, improving to 17-2-0 on the year.

“My hat’s off — their goaltender played fantastically in front of BC,” Stone said. “Is that a word? Fantastically?”

Yes, yes it is. It’s “uncompelling” that isn’t. Luckily, that word is no longer needed given the recent caliber of the Beanpot field.

“It’s good for us in the long run to go against a tough team like that,” Harvard senior Jillian Dempsey said. “Obviously, not the result we were looking for, but we had to battle. In the end, we’re going to have to get more gritty and grind those games out, and it’s nice to have that kind of experience under out belt, so when we’re in that situation again, we’ll be more prepared and we’ll have this gut feeling of the loss and how we don’t want that again. We’ll find a way next time, and hopefully, get a better result.”

Stone has been through a lot of these Beanpot semifinals, but more often than not, her team has come out on top. This is the first time ever that the Crimson have lost in the opening round in back-to-back years. Despite the pain of the defeat, she recognizes the positives of the improved competition.

“It’s great for our game,” Stone said. “Unfortunately, we’re not going to be playing for the championship, but we’re going to be playing for a lot more next Tuesday night.”

BU and Harvard will try to salvage a win from the Beanpot in the early game on Tuesday.

Meanwhile, Northeastern and BC will be playing for the Beanpot trophy. In the case of the Eagles, they’ll try to win that title while simultaneously trying to duel BU for the top spot in Hockey East. King Crowley doesn’t think that Tuesday’s championship game will distract her team from the conference race.

“Our team looks forward to the Beanpot every year,” she said. “We don’t see it as a distraction at all, but a springboard to the end of the season. I enjoy the energy this time of year brings to our team.”

The energy is better for everyone — fans, players, coaches — when four strong teams are hitting the ice. So the next time that Harvard players are skating with a Beanpot in triumph, they may relish the moment to a greater extent than Jennifer Botterill and company did 10 years ago.

“You want to have all four teams playing their best at this time of year,” Stone said. “It means more. Honest to God, it means more.”



Read more: http://www.uscho.com/2013/02/07/womens-beanpot-no-longer-has-only-crimson-in-clover/#ixzz2KEC8iCva
 
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Not exactly a Salzano classic, but certainly a good read;)

Women’s Beanpot no longer has only Crimson in clover
By Arlan Marttila • Women's Division I Columnist • Feb. 7, 2013



I’ll admit it; it wasn’t that long ago that I thought the Beanpot was kind of silly. Silly is the wrong word. Uncompelling? Wait, that’s not even a word.

A decade ago, the field was: Harvard, a recent national champion amid a string of success that carried it to the NCAA Championship game in three consecutive seasons; Northeastern, a one-time national power, no doubt, but mired in a period where the Huskies experienced friction off of the ice and less success than normal on it; Boston University’s club team; and Boston College, a team that entered the NCAA records books for losing to Harvard, 17-2, two weeks before the two teams met in the 2003 Beanpot Championship. I wonder who will win? “Uncompelling” may not be a word, but it sufficed to describe a game that was never in doubt.

The catalyst for change was likely BU’s decision to add a varsity program. While BC may have been able to tolerate losing to Harvard by 15 goals, I doubt that anyone on Chestnut Hill was willing to chance a similar calamity versus the Terriers some day, so the Eagles went from just having a women’s ice hockey team, to having a competitive one.

The situation has evolved such that Harvard is no longer the only Boston area team with real-life knowledge of the NCAA tournament. BU has qualified in each of the past three seasons, and made the final two years ago. Boston College has played in three Frozen Fours, including the last two. Northeastern is still waiting for its first NCAA invitation, but missed out by the narrowest of margins last March. This season is likely the best yet in Beantown. There have been a number of weeks where all four squads have been ranked in the USCHO poll. This week’s poll slotted them as No. 2 Boston College, No. 3 Boston University, and No. 5 Harvard, with Northeastern lurking just outside the top 10.

“It’s phenomenal,” Eagles’ coach Katie King Crowley said. “I think that’s a tribute to all four of the schools. Everyone has done a great job of getting their programs in that top-10 group and top-12 group. To see the growth of the Beanpot in my 10 years at BC, it’s been tremendous to the see the growth of all of the teams. This is just a tremendous tournament to be a part of.”

A tremendous tournament requires quality teams.

“In our eight years as a program, the biggest change has been the fact that the tournament went from two competitors to four,” BU coach Brian Durocher said. “BC and BU are now real threats each season. I would also say that the national caliber of player that the fans get to watch has greatly increased, and has attracted larger crowds with not only young girls but hockey fans of all ages.”

Tuesday’s attendance of 1,467 was an increase of more than 1,000 people over the crowd that watched Harvard toy with BC in the championship game 10 years ago.

Ironically, the underdog in the field was both the defending Beanpot Champion and the host. Northeastern came in with a 14-10-2 record, but the Huskies were 0-7-0 against the other three teams on the season, including three losses to BU, their semifinal opponent. They’d squared off on Saturday, and the Terriers had grabbed the lead in the opening minute and never looked back.

On Tuesday night, Northeastern was the team that was able to get off to the quick start, scoring twice in the first eight minutes.

“I think we played well tonight,” BU coach Brian Durocher said. “I don’t have to go any further than those first two goals. A kid comes out of the penalty box, and they tip a puck out of midair, and it’s two-nothing.”

Kendall Coyne got behind the Terriers’ defense and finished a breakaway just after the end of a BU power play. When Casey Pickett’s power-play goal doubled the lead a couple of minutes later, one had the sense that BU’s 13-game unbeaten streak was in jeopardy.

“Fourteen games is a long time to not lose, so maybe that was up against the odds tonight to keep that going,” Durocher said.

Other things were working against the Terriers, not the least of which was the play of NU goaltender Chloe Desjardins, who made 38 saves.

“She was playing hurt right before the break, and it got to the point where we couldn’t play her anymore,” Huskies coach Dave Flint said. “Kelsey O’Sullivan stepped in and did a great job. I had a tough decision to make yesterday after practice on who to play, and Chloe told me she was ready. I trusted her on that, and she had a good practice and we went with her, and it made me look like I know what I’m doing.”

While Desjardins kept the BU offense at bay, Coyne struck again five minutes into the middle period. Her centering attempt bounced off of a defenseman’s skate and into the Terriers’ net for a 3-0 Northeastern lead.

“I’ve watched her play for a long time now,” Durocher said. “She’s a fantastic player. She has speed that’s really hard to deal with period. She just is so determined in everything she does.”

Momentum began to swing at the halfway point of the game when Northeastern had nearly a minute and a half with a two-skater advantage and responded with a rather ragged five-on-three power play. Despite a territorial edge, BU was unable to get on the board until 7:02 of the third period when rookie Jordan Juron cashed in a rebound.

On this night, that was all the scoring the Terriers’ offense could muster. Durocher tried to generate something by pulling goalie Kerrin Sperry for an extra attacker while on a power play with six minutes to go. His team couldn’t score; neither did Northeastern, but that was only because Coyne skated offside while attempting to corral a pass with the empty net looming.

With under two minutes to play, Coyne had another chance at an unguarded cage and completed her hat trick.

“The other thing that probably doesn’t get talked about enough is her unbelievable stamina,” Durocher said. “I never see her look like she’s close to tired out there. Hence, she’s a threat for two shifts in a row sometimes.”

Rachel Llanes and wings Pickett and Coyne combined for four goals and six assists for the game.

“That line is one of the best lines in college hockey,” Flint said. “They’re so fast and so dynamic. If you turn the puck over in bad areas against them, they’re going to make you pay for it. That’s what they did tonight.”

The Huskies advance to face BC in Tuesday’s championship.
 
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Thanks for posting that, DC

Though I do have to say that what made it more fun was that I read Durocher's quotes in his voice.
 
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Terrific piece!

Harking back to my Wednesday post about pulling goalies to create 6-on-5 and 6-on-4 situations, here is what Cornell elected to do last night:

"Down 2-0, Cornell pulled Slebodnick with more than three minutes left in the third period. After a Lyons tripping penalty with 2:12 left in regulation, the Big Red went on a six-on-four advantage."

Apparently Quinnipiac then scored two shorthanded empty net goals. Wonder how those goals get recorded in stats: as shorties or as empty netters or as both?
 
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Apparently Quinnipiac then scored two shorthanded empty net goals. Wonder how those goals get recorded in stats: as shorties or as empty netters or as both?
Definitely both -- I know HockeyEastOnline.com's box scores show types of goals that are scored (doesn't look like ECAC's does) and I know they show multiple types when applicable.

EDIT: Here you go: http://www.sportdesigns.com/ncaa/mobilebox.php?wcorqui1.f08
 
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Just checking -- will NU be streaming both games tomorrow night? I imagine their announcers will be more knowledgeable about the four teams than whoever draws the straw to announce for NESN.com.

It's GoNUxstream at stretchinternet.com, right, no subscription or password required?
 
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Just checking -- will NU be streaming both games tomorrow night?

It's GoNUxstream at stretchinternet.com, right, no subscription or password required?

That is my understanding from last week.
 
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The Minnesota parents with kids playing Hockey East love the game coverage from NU - outstanding picture quality and announcers!
 
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Great story.

:D
Whispers ... of such possibilities.
When the spirit is willing, miracles ensue...are accomplished.
Enter the coach.

My view- and I am right (here, this time), is that every player needs to leave everything they have on-the-ice, each outing, each game (it is...) each and every time they officially step on the ice.
Enter the coach.

Some teams have players who reach this level some times.

You know if your team has one or more such on their roster- or have had such in the past.

I saw such a player play two years ago. She wouldn't quit eventually causing, in my view, her team to upset a, on paper THAT day, far, far superior opponent. She...brought it.

O GUN AT SEA, O BELLS THAT IN THE STEEPLES BE!*

She created a (form of) m a s t e r p i e c e, with her play.

*E. Dickinson
 
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