Re: WISCONSIN HOCKEY 09-10 - Climbing The Mountain (7th Edition?)
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WISCONSIN HOCKEY 09-10 - Climbing The Mountain (7th Edition?)
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Timothy A
Let's go RED!
Re: WISCONSIN HOCKEY 09-10 - Climbing The Mountain (7th Edition?)
I'd love to go to more games, but $$$ dictates otherwise.
uwbadgers 14
The bottom line why UW Hockey isn't on TV more is the fact that many people, even in Madison, don't really care about hockey. And less care about it in Milwaukee. And that's not going to change. That is a fact. I am very greatful PBS, Charter Mainstreet and FSN WI are televising the games they are. Back when I was a young lad, it was PBS or NOTHING. Maybe WISC would carry a game or 2 back in the day, but that was it. There was no USCHO, no UW website, no INCH, no internet, just the newpaper or the local news. I subscribed for years to the WI ST Journal just to get hockey scores, standings and an occassional article.
All of us love UW Hockey with almost every fiber of our soul, but we are the vocal minority. That is reality. Now get over it, will ya? This constant railing on this issue is just maddening.
I'd love to go to more games, but $$$ dictates otherwise.
uwbadgers 14
The bottom line why UW Hockey isn't on TV more is the fact that many people, even in Madison, don't really care about hockey. And less care about it in Milwaukee. And that's not going to change. That is a fact. I am very greatful PBS, Charter Mainstreet and FSN WI are televising the games they are. Back when I was a young lad, it was PBS or NOTHING. Maybe WISC would carry a game or 2 back in the day, but that was it. There was no USCHO, no UW website, no INCH, no internet, just the newpaper or the local news. I subscribed for years to the WI ST Journal just to get hockey scores, standings and an occassional article.
All of us love UW Hockey with almost every fiber of our soul, but we are the vocal minority. That is reality. Now get over it, will ya? This constant railing on this issue is just maddening.
Gandalf the Red
Cardinal and White Wizard
Re: WISCONSIN HOCKEY 09-10 - Climbing The Mountain (7th Edition?)
I completely agree. Right now Ramage is serving as the 6th dman. He'll need to show what he can do when more is expected of him as a junior and a senior or even next season. He's played well, though his role has been limited. He has a long way to go to being ready for the NHL or AHL, but he's on the right track and at the right school. Note to young, talented blue liners, commit now, before there isn't any room (already crowded w/ talent through 2012).
After seeing Craig Johnson's shaky play this weekend, I'm glad Ramage has stepped right in, because he's been a big upgrade.
I completely agree. Right now Ramage is serving as the 6th dman. He'll need to show what he can do when more is expected of him as a junior and a senior or even next season. He's played well, though his role has been limited. He has a long way to go to being ready for the NHL or AHL, but he's on the right track and at the right school. Note to young, talented blue liners, commit now, before there isn't any room (already crowded w/ talent through 2012).
After seeing Craig Johnson's shaky play this weekend, I'm glad Ramage has stepped right in, because he's been a big upgrade.
ExileOnDaytonStreet
Drunkard
Re: WISCONSIN HOCKEY 09-10 - Climbing The Mountain (7th Edition?)
Now, with that in mind, its still worth debating why it seems that in the past few seasons that the TV presence of UW Hockey has been decreasing. But it's hardly as cut and dry of an issue as some on this board are making it out to be. Whether the athletic department can do a better job selling the product is just one question. It takes two parties to make a deal, and the other half (the TV people, and their advertising sponsors) is much more complicated.
I also would think that it's pretty obvious that the power lies in the hands of the TV people (FSN, WPT, Time Warner Cable, Charter, BTN, etc.). If those people aren't interested... whattya gonna do?
Now, with that in mind, its still worth debating why it seems that in the past few seasons that the TV presence of UW Hockey has been decreasing. But it's hardly as cut and dry of an issue as some on this board are making it out to be. Whether the athletic department can do a better job selling the product is just one question. It takes two parties to make a deal, and the other half (the TV people, and their advertising sponsors) is much more complicated.
ExileOnDaytonStreet
Drunkard
Re: WISCONSIN HOCKEY 09-10 - Climbing The Mountain (7th Edition?)
Clearly, we get a LOT more than we used to back in the stone age (I keed...). But I think the question isn't to compare our coverage now to the coverage twenty or thirty years ago as much as it is to compare the coverage now to the coverage from just a few seasons ago.
Perhaps someone with more time on their hands can get their hands on actual data, but it seems to me that there are fewer games on TV than there were in, say, 2005-06.
Clearly, we get a LOT more than we used to back in the stone age (I keed...). But I think the question isn't to compare our coverage now to the coverage twenty or thirty years ago as much as it is to compare the coverage now to the coverage from just a few seasons ago.
Perhaps someone with more time on their hands can get their hands on actual data, but it seems to me that there are fewer games on TV than there were in, say, 2005-06.
Chuck Schwartz
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Re: WISCONSIN HOCKEY 09-10 - Climbing The Mountain (7th Edition?)
I feel like it seems like there are less games because FSN is covering less games. But there have been many games picked up by Charter Extra that people don't know about in addition to MyNetwork Tv or whatever it's called.
I feel like it seems like there are less games because FSN is covering less games. But there have been many games picked up by Charter Extra that people don't know about in addition to MyNetwork Tv or whatever it's called.
ExileOnDaytonStreet
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Re: WISCONSIN HOCKEY 09-10 - Climbing The Mountain (7th Edition?)
I think that it would be fair to say that, for the vast majority, shuffling games onto increasingly obscure and difficult to find channels isn't a whole lot different than not having them on TV at all.
I live in Milwaukee and have Time Warner Cable. As such, I'm pretty much limited to WPT replays and whatever scraps FSN and BTN are willing to give me. If I had the normal sports package, I could see the games that are on FCS, but that only gets me so far.
Maybe I'm wrong on this one, but haven't there also been fewer games on WPT that have bee live, as opposed to tape delayed? I supposed that's more of a budget issue for WPT than anything else, but for some reason I feel like there were more live games when I was in school. (And maybe I'm just saying that because I never had to watch on TV when I was in school)
I think that it would be fair to say that, for the vast majority, shuffling games onto increasingly obscure and difficult to find channels isn't a whole lot different than not having them on TV at all.
I live in Milwaukee and have Time Warner Cable. As such, I'm pretty much limited to WPT replays and whatever scraps FSN and BTN are willing to give me. If I had the normal sports package, I could see the games that are on FCS, but that only gets me so far.
Maybe I'm wrong on this one, but haven't there also been fewer games on WPT that have bee live, as opposed to tape delayed? I supposed that's more of a budget issue for WPT than anything else, but for some reason I feel like there were more live games when I was in school. (And maybe I'm just saying that because I never had to watch on TV when I was in school)
Chuck Schwartz
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Re: WISCONSIN HOCKEY 09-10 - Climbing The Mountain (7th Edition?)
TV so far this season:
CC-FSN
CC-No TV
Minnesota State-Charter Extra
Minnesota State-Charter Extra
New Hampshire-TVW
New Hampshire-WISC
Minnesota-FSN
Minnesota-FSN
Anchorage-FSN
Anchorage-WISC
St. Cloud-Charter Extra
St. Cloud-Charter Extra
Michigan State-No TV
Michigan-No TV
Michigan Tech-TVW
Michigan Tech-FSN
North Dakota-NHL Network and Fox College Sports
North Dakota-Fox College Sports
Merrimack-No TV
Yale-No TV
So out of 20 games, only 5 were not televised. I understand some people can't get certain games in certain places. But most games are televised.
TV so far this season:
CC-FSN
CC-No TV
Minnesota State-Charter Extra
Minnesota State-Charter Extra
New Hampshire-TVW
New Hampshire-WISC
Minnesota-FSN
Minnesota-FSN
Anchorage-FSN
Anchorage-WISC
St. Cloud-Charter Extra
St. Cloud-Charter Extra
Michigan State-No TV
Michigan-No TV
Michigan Tech-TVW
Michigan Tech-FSN
North Dakota-NHL Network and Fox College Sports
North Dakota-Fox College Sports
Merrimack-No TV
Yale-No TV
So out of 20 games, only 5 were not televised. I understand some people can't get certain games in certain places. But most games are televised.
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ganzhimself
1,2,3,4,5,6! We Want More!
Re: WISCONSIN HOCKEY 09-10 - Climbing The Mountain (7th Edition?)
I'd be happy if there was a way I could get an online video stream of at least the home games for either a fixed fee season pass or a monthly fee. I'd gladly pay for online video broadcasts like CC and some other WCHA schools have. The current online system sucks... $9.99/mo for audio of the games that I can get for free on the radio @ home just isn't something I'd ever pay for. Wish that I had Charter or TWC to get the games they pick up, but alas, I don't.
I'd be happy if there was a way I could get an online video stream of at least the home games for either a fixed fee season pass or a monthly fee. I'd gladly pay for online video broadcasts like CC and some other WCHA schools have. The current online system sucks... $9.99/mo for audio of the games that I can get for free on the radio @ home just isn't something I'd ever pay for. Wish that I had Charter or TWC to get the games they pick up, but alas, I don't.
BuckyFanStuckInMI
Wish I Was Phishin
Re: WISCONSIN HOCKEY 09-10 - Climbing The Mountain (7th Edition?)
The fact that FSN has cutback has been frustrating but it has been great to find other ways to watch the team when needed. I went to the game on Saturday with my Friday night season ticket package and it was nice to know that for $2.99 I could get the stream from B10.com on Sunday. I heard they were having some problems but it was nice to have that option.
I decided to watch USA versus the Swedes on the NHL Network HD instead while monitoring the UW Blog on my computer.
It would be nice if next year they tried to have a few HD games through FSN for Badger Hockey. I think that should be the next step, instead of trying to get more games back on TV through FSN.
The fact that FSN has cutback has been frustrating but it has been great to find other ways to watch the team when needed. I went to the game on Saturday with my Friday night season ticket package and it was nice to know that for $2.99 I could get the stream from B10.com on Sunday. I heard they were having some problems but it was nice to have that option.
I decided to watch USA versus the Swedes on the NHL Network HD instead while monitoring the UW Blog on my computer.
It would be nice if next year they tried to have a few HD games through FSN for Badger Hockey. I think that should be the next step, instead of trying to get more games back on TV through FSN.
solovsfett
Registered User
Re: WISCONSIN HOCKEY 09-10 - Climbing The Mountain (7th Edition?)
Thoughts on the death of the Badger Hockey Showdown.
in order of importance, IMO
1. the rise of the football team. Plain and simple, no matter what we say people in wisconsin prefer football, basketball, and nascar. Once the FB started bowling annually, tons of people would take their vacations around the bowl game and not be around for the showdown. I hate it, I wish I could change it and it drives me out of my mind to think Badger Bob is not considered on the same level with Vince Lombardi but that's just where we're at. h-e-l-l people in wisconsin think more highly of Al Mcguire than Badger Bob and that's just effen bat-****.
2. Success. The showdown became a victim of it's own success, once other schools saw that 17,000 avg at the bradley center for the first 3-5 years it was the beginning of the end as more and more schools started tournaments. Once DU, MN got into the game that was it, IMO.
3. last but not least. Moving from a Friday-Saturday format to Saturday-Sunday was beyond dumb....case in point, read the attendance results from beginning to end to see that change in attendance coincide with that change.
Thoughts on the death of the Badger Hockey Showdown.
in order of importance, IMO
1. the rise of the football team. Plain and simple, no matter what we say people in wisconsin prefer football, basketball, and nascar. Once the FB started bowling annually, tons of people would take their vacations around the bowl game and not be around for the showdown. I hate it, I wish I could change it and it drives me out of my mind to think Badger Bob is not considered on the same level with Vince Lombardi but that's just where we're at. h-e-l-l people in wisconsin think more highly of Al Mcguire than Badger Bob and that's just effen bat-****.
2. Success. The showdown became a victim of it's own success, once other schools saw that 17,000 avg at the bradley center for the first 3-5 years it was the beginning of the end as more and more schools started tournaments. Once DU, MN got into the game that was it, IMO.
3. last but not least. Moving from a Friday-Saturday format to Saturday-Sunday was beyond dumb....case in point, read the attendance results from beginning to end to see that change in attendance coincide with that change.
Re: WISCONSIN HOCKEY 09-10 - Climbing The Mountain (7th Edition?)
Don't ever wish for that.
Don't ever wish for that.
ExileOnDaytonStreet
Drunkard
Re: WISCONSIN HOCKEY 09-10 - Climbing The Mountain (7th Edition?)
I wonder what its like to live in a place where people actually care about success...
I wonder what its like to live in a place where people actually care about success...
ExileOnDaytonStreet
Drunkard
Re: WISCONSIN HOCKEY 09-10 - Climbing The Mountain (7th Edition?)
Depending on your cable package (and in Milwaukee and the Fox River Valley- a vast majority of the state's population- that usually means Time Warner), that knocks out all of the Charter games. That's 9 games that a LOT of people can't see. And for two others, you would have to have either an expanded sports package or satellite in order to get the North Dakota games. That's 11 games, which leaves only 9 of 20 games that the average person would be able to watch. And I'm not sure which of the non-FSN games were even live to begin with.
What would be really interesting would be to compare that schedule to previous seasons.
Of course, this is WAY better than everyone who pretends like this is nothing. But it's also not like this is the best that can be done. It's certainly not something the UW AD should be resting its laurels on.
A little bit of devil's advocacy here:
Depending on your cable package (and in Milwaukee and the Fox River Valley- a vast majority of the state's population- that usually means Time Warner), that knocks out all of the Charter games. That's 9 games that a LOT of people can't see. And for two others, you would have to have either an expanded sports package or satellite in order to get the North Dakota games. That's 11 games, which leaves only 9 of 20 games that the average person would be able to watch. And I'm not sure which of the non-FSN games were even live to begin with.
What would be really interesting would be to compare that schedule to previous seasons.
Of course, this is WAY better than everyone who pretends like this is nothing. But it's also not like this is the best that can be done. It's certainly not something the UW AD should be resting its laurels on.
Badger Booster
Registered User
Re: WISCONSIN HOCKEY 09-10 - Climbing The Mountain (7th Edition?)
On a completely unrelated note, what's the heckling etiquette when the Badgers play the USA u18 this weekend?
It's going to be odd chanting "Sieve" to a guy wearing the red, white and blue......
On a completely unrelated note, what's the heckling etiquette when the Badgers play the USA u18 this weekend?
It's going to be odd chanting "Sieve" to a guy wearing the red, white and blue......
solovsfett
Registered User
Re: WISCONSIN HOCKEY 09-10 - Climbing The Mountain (7th Edition?)
well, ya won't find that place in chicago cause the whole city cheers for a team that hasn't done jack chit in like 100 years....
well, ya won't find that place in chicago cause the whole city cheers for a team that hasn't done jack chit in like 100 years....
WeWantMore
New member
Re: WISCONSIN HOCKEY 09-10 - Climbing The Mountain (7th Edition?)
Was wondering that too...
Was wondering that too...
XYZ
Smoking in the selection room.
Re: WISCONSIN HOCKEY 09-10 - Climbing The Mountain (7th Edition?)
Let 'em have it. Helps prepare them for the traditionally warm reception they will ultimately receive from the Canuckistanian fans.
Let 'em have it. Helps prepare them for the traditionally warm reception they will ultimately receive from the Canuckistanian fans.
Chuck Schwartz
New member
Re: WISCONSIN HOCKEY 09-10 - Climbing The Mountain (7th Edition?)
Treat it like a normal game, but remember, there are two Badger recruits on the U18 team in defenseman Frankie Simonelli and forward Michael Mersch.
All true statements. Sometimes I take for granted living in the Charter area with the full sports package.
Treat it like a normal game, but remember, there are two Badger recruits on the U18 team in defenseman Frankie Simonelli and forward Michael Mersch.
All true statements. Sometimes I take for granted living in the Charter area with the full sports package.
G
Gurtholfin
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Re: WISCONSIN HOCKEY 09-10 - Climbing The Mountain (7th Edition?)
Their tourney is in Belarus, of all places. Even so, they'll probably still be the most hated other than maybe the Russians.
It would be hard for me to sieve any team USA goalie and I wouldn't heckle any of the other players either. I'm sure they've heard it all before though and can take it, so if any of you feel the need to give a bunch of teenagers a hard time and show them how witty you are, go for it.
I'm not even sure who I'd root for in that game...
Let 'em have it. Helps prepare them for the traditionally warm reception they will ultimately receive from the Canuckistanian fans.
Their tourney is in Belarus, of all places. Even so, they'll probably still be the most hated other than maybe the Russians.
It would be hard for me to sieve any team USA goalie and I wouldn't heckle any of the other players either. I'm sure they've heard it all before though and can take it, so if any of you feel the need to give a bunch of teenagers a hard time and show them how witty you are, go for it.
I'm not even sure who I'd root for in that game...
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