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Who will be the 7th member of the Big Ten Hockey Conference?

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Was just checking in on the progress of the new Pinnacle Bank Arena in Nebraska. It's slotted for the basketball team but I've heard on and off that it may have ice making capabilities. I found this article and couldn't help but smile when I read it.

Lincoln's Pinnacle Bank Arena proceeding as planned

The north end of the bowl will remain open, but already is configured for possible expansion by about 2,000 seats. Also, piping has been installed under the floor to allow for the making of ice if there ever is a hockey tenant.

“You don’t have to put in everything now,” Caldwell said, “but you have to be ready for the future.”

Caldwell is the Hampton Construction President, so that statement might be more of a teaser if it was their AD, but still. I like the plan. No plans for hockey now, but why would you put in a new stadium in the Big 10 and not plan for that contingency. Wikipedia lists it as seating 12,700 for hockey.

Not as far along is the Breslow Ice Arena, which will be a 1,500 seat ice arena designated for the ACHA team.
 
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Just for clarification purposes, the Breslow Ice Center will house the ACHA team, but was not being built specifically for that purpose. That was included as part of the concept. The Ice Center is being built more to provide more ice time to a town that desparately needs it. We have many groups that want ice time, and currently only the Lincoln Stars Ice Box provides that ice time in Lincoln. The majority of the money for the Ice Center was donated back in '07 or '08 by John Breslow, former state auditor, and was originally supposed to completed a long time ago, but the subject of the arena came up, and construction was delayed to coincide with plans for development of the arena and surrounding area.

As slowe mentioned above, they have at least laid the groundwork for the arena if UNL ever decides to move in that direction. Two things likely have to happen for Huskers Hockey at the DI level to happen, and a third might have to happen:

1) Nebraska is not yet fully vested in the monies coming from the conference. I don't see the athletic department proceeding on adding anything until that happens. I believe that was slated for '16 or '17, but am not completely sure. In other words, we are only getting a (increasing by the year) portion of the monies that the conference pays out for various things. I just don't see anything being started before those funds are fully available.

2) I think TO wants to make sure all current programs are shored up as his main priority with his time left as AD. I don't think it's just hockey, but I don't really think he wants to try and add anything while trying to shore up men's basketball and baseball (last year was first year under new coach Darin Erstad). Once Miles has been here a couple years for bball, and Erstad has a year or two more to shore up baseball, that might change, but those two are more immediate concerns. I think a potential DI hockey team becomes more of a possibility when a new AD comes in. Not saying TO wouldn't do it, just more likely.

3) A major donor steps up with a large donation to get the program started. I highly doubt even TO would refuse monies to get the program started. The logistics and the Title IX considerations could be ultimately worked out if a donor stepped forward. If this were to happen, I'm not sure 1 and 2 would need to happen to get it started. However, without this, I think 1 and 2 likely have to happen prior to start of hockey.

For anyone interested, this topic has been discussed a couple different places on Husker and Mav boards:

http://www.huskerboard.com/index.php?/topic/58006-another-reason-nebraska-needs-div-i-hockey/

That's the Husker site I mostly frequent, and we've had an ongoing discussion of the topic there, and on one or two other threads.

The other place for Mav discussion is here:

http://www.mavpuck.com/mpboard/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8974

here:

http://www.mavpuck.com/mpboard/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8786&SearchTerms=Husker,Hockey

and here:

http://www.mavpuck.com/mpboard/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4455&whichpage=93

Though on that last one, you probably have to go back a few pages, it's really a conglomeration of a lot of facilities talk from Omaha mostly, and a little about Lincoln.

Lot of thoughts from casual fans or very peripheral fans, especially in the Huskerboard thread. But a lot of interesting conversation about the possiblity. Again, my thoughts, for the most part, are above. I think it's possible, but likely will take a few things happening in Lincoln to make it happen. I'm taking a 'we'll see' approach. Would love to see it, think it would be great for UNL and UNO, but will support UNO in hockey til that time comes, and support both schools in everything else they sponsor.
 
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Good stuff Husker. I hope they do add a program :)

Not going to create an account to reply, but in regards to the comment I quoted below, not all Big Ten schools with men's hockey programs have women's hockey programs. Michigan and Michigan State only have men's programs.

Women's hockey is an Olympic sport, and schools in the Big 10 have both women's and men's hockey teams.

Just need a donor--we know there's a conference to join, and our kids will get TV exposure. It's just a matter of getting seed money to kickstart both the women's and men's programs.

I agree with the second comment though. I think a D1 hockey program would thrive.
 
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Here's a tweet from Eric Olsen of the Lincoln Journal Star from today's press conference for new Nebraska AD and former University of Wisconsin deputy athletic director Shawn Eichorst:

https://twitter.com/ericolson64/status/255710335921692672

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm......................

Oh, and they have gone ahead and installed the piping, only, in the new arena in Lincoln "just in case" they want ever want to make ice there.
 
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nebraska. Here is my order of the schools adding hockey in the future.
1. nebraska
2. illinois
3. northwestern
4. iowa
5. purdue
6. indiana
 
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Here's a pretty thorough discussion on the feasibility / implications if the University of Nebraska decided to add a hockey team. It's an article by a pretty popular NU blog called Corn Nation. Basically they have the below questions and then several members of the blog plus UNO fans discuss.

Could Nebraska Start a B1G Hockey Team?


How would hockey fit into the Nebraska athletic department? Does it grow the interest in Husker athletics, or does it fragment the existing market?

Will Husker fans embrace hockey?

How successful could Husker hockey program be, both on the ice and financially?

What would be the impact on Husker hockey be on the other hockey programs (Nebraska-Omaha and USHL franchises in Kearney, Lincoln, and Omaha) in the region?

Put on your carnac hat. Will Nebraska play hockey in the Big Ten conference, and if so, when?
 
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Put on your carnac hat. Will Nebraska play hockey in the Big Ten conference, and if so, when?

No, and never. Unless a really rich guy (like Penn State) gives them a buttload of money so they can afford a women's and men's team at the same time and the only way they can have the money is if it goes to hockey (like Penn State).

So, no and never.
 
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I am pretty sure you can add any sports to qualify for Title IX, ie it doesnt have to be mens and womens hockey. If Nebraska added added mens hockey, the easiest (cheapest fix is to add field hockey 12 schollys, and fencing 5 schollys--- then not fully fund one male sport by eliminating 1 scholarship-- take your pick)
 
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I went back and read my earlier comments, and I think those still stand pretty well. Did see in an online conversation earlier that Nebraska becomes fully vested in the B1G monies in '17. I think Eichorst's selection definitely makes this a greater possibility than before, but not air tight. One thing I think that anyone that says it won't happen tends to forget... Nebraska makes money with their athletic department. At present, I believe those numbers work out to approximately $15M-$20M a year in the black. So this isn't an athletic department that would go in the red automatically with the development of hockey. However, a donor that wanted to help fund the program certainly would help things along. But again, I stated that above. Especially if Nebraska sees this as a potential money-maker, then it'll happen. But it might not be until they become fully vested.
 
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Wanted to thank slowe for that link. I think I had seen that linked before elsewhere, but hadn't taken the time to read it. I think some of the bloggers are stretching if they think it would require another arena. Don't see that happening unless you have someone ponying up the money for it. If that's what is being required, it likely won't happen. That said, PBA (the new arena in Lincoln) is a joint venture between the city and UNL. UNL will get a sweetheart deal for use by the basketball teams, and I'm sure the same would happen for hockey if it becomes a reality. Can't see UNL passing up that if they can get it, even if it isn't quite the smaller intimate setting that might be more appropriate. But will be interesting to see how things progress over the next few years. If the B1G put an incentive out there to start the team(s), such as getting a full share of the revenues in the conference quicker, I could definitely see it becoming a reality. If not, then I'd say the earliest you would look for it would be '17.
 
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No, and never. Unless a really rich guy (like Penn State) gives them a buttload of money so they can afford a women's and men's team at the same time and the only way they can have the money is if it goes to hockey (like Penn State).

So, no and never.

Never is a strong word, as I tell my kiddos. Whoda thunk PSU would stumble into a big donor? No one saw that coming. In the end it's not likely, but possible.
 
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I'm not the best person to comment on the odds of Nebraska adding hockey, but I certainly like how it's being discussed by a group of people who aren't all hardcore hockey fans. I don't agree with everything they are saying, but it's still a pretty good discussion to read. I like it simply for the fact that it's Nebraskans talking hockey. Not what most would consider a traditional hockey state. But it shows something that many hoped would happen with the B1G forming. Having a large conference like that draws attention. It gets people wondering. Building fan interest and demand for the sport is only a first, very premature step, but it's an important one.
 
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I distinctly remember Nebraska's AD Tom Osborne in an interview right after the B1G was announce commenting that he has a lot more interest and support for adding mens soccer than starting a hockey program. A soccer field is a lot less costly expense than a ice arena.
 
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I distinctly remember Nebraska's AD Tom Osborne in an interview right after the B1G was announce commenting that he has a lot more interest and support for adding mens soccer than starting a hockey program. A soccer field is a lot less costly expense than a ice arena.
Wait... they don't have soccer? Yeah, that'll probably come first.
 
Re: Who will be the 7th member of the Big Ten Hockey Conference?

I distinctly remember Nebraska's AD Tom Osborne in an interview right after the B1G was announce commenting that he has a lot more interest and support for adding mens soccer than starting a hockey program. A soccer field is a lot less costly expense than a ice arena.

Shhh........don't tell that to the hockey guys on here. They actually think a hockey team is going to get started.

FWIW I bet Lacrosse is next in line after soccer.
 
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Wait... they don't have soccer? Yeah, that'll probably come first.
They have a womens soccer program but not a mens. And of course what womens sport do you add if you do start mens hockey thanks to Title IX? Of course it doesn't have to be the same sport and looking at what the women have there's swimming & diving but I don't think it includes synchronized swimming. That would be a cheapie to add compared to most sports.
 
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Shhh........don't tell that to the hockey guys on here. They actually think a hockey team is going to get started.

FWIW I bet Lacrosse is next in line after soccer.
Lacross is just lawn hockey for morons who never learned how to skate to play the real deal!
 
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Lacross is just lawn hockey for morons who never learned how to skate to play the real deal!
Lax already has the infrastructure on campus and it's the fastest growing sport in HS. Lax way before hockey.
 
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