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WCHA REFEREE Arrested

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So where do you think Friesema is right now?

My guess is he posted bail and he's at Rumrunners getting slammered.

Where's he going to stay at night? Get a hotel at a hundred bucks a night? The Red Nose? Brother Francis?
 
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dggoddard said:
Its one thing to shut down Anchorage Airport at 1 AM, can you imagine if they shut down O'Hare, Atlanta or LAX at 5 pm?
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I was stuck overnight in O'Hare a few days before Christmas one year because the entire wing of O'Hare where our constantly delayed "little planes" flights board was closed after someone unauthorized when through the security door. It was about 11:40 PM at the time and they just cancelled everything in that wing at midnight. About a dozen flights or so.
 
Twitch Boy said:
So where do you think Friesema is right now?

My guess is he posted bail and he's at Rumrunners getting slammered.

Where's he going to stay at night? Get a hotel at a hundred bucks a night? The Red Nose? Brother Francis?
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Well, he did post bail. Court date set.

http://www.courtrecords.alaska.gov/eservices/casedetail.page.5?x=D7OMGfQUwfO8KQSqJHQH1u963vI6MtEMZjekHdJUaeY
 
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Why still the TSA blame? They heard from a gate agent that someone said there might be a bomb in his luggage. Friesma had already cleared security.

Friesma was not out of line by wanting his name on his bag. He was in the right there. Where he was out of line was saying there could be a bomb in his friends bag. This was not an overreaction by anyone at the airport based on what has come out. I'd rather due diligence was done, than have to attend a friend or family member's funeral because some gate agent thought it was a joke. They are not paid or qualified to make that distinction.
 
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MinnesotaNorthStar said:
Why still the TSA blame? They heard from a gate agent that someone said there might be a bomb in his luggage. Friesma had already cleared security.

Friesma was not out of line by wanting his name on his bag. He was in the right there. Where he was out of line was saying there could be a bomb in his friends bag. This was not an overreaction by anyone at the airport based on what has come out. I'd rather due diligence was done, than have to attend a friend or family member's funeral because some gate agent thought it was a joke. They are not paid or qualified to make that distinction.
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Was there a bomb in his luggage? No. Was shutting down the entire airport appropriate? No.

Like I said before it's sad that this is the state we're in... We've taken every single bit of common sense out of the equation and overreact to anything on the near absolute zero chance it may be threatening a life at an airport. Yet we do so many other things that are far more dangerous in our daily lives. That friend or family member is much more likely to die in a car accident caused by a drunk driver than an airplane being bombed, yet every day we get on the road with people that are doing that. Airport security is a complete and total focus on the feeling of being safe, not actually making things safe, because in reality it's already an extremely safe way to travel even taking into account the horrible things that have happened.
 
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stuckinwi said:
Was there a bomb in his luggage? No. Was shutting down the entire airport appropriate? No.

Like I said before it's sad that this is the state we're in... We've taken every single bit of common sense out of the equation and overreact to anything on the near absolute zero chance it may be threatening a life at an airport. Yet we do so many other things that are far more dangerous in our daily lives. That friend or family member is much more likely to die in a car accident caused by a drunk driver than an airplane being bombed, yet every day we get on the road with people that are doing that. Airport security is a complete and total focus on the feeling of being safe, not actually making things safe, because in reality it's already an extremely safe way to travel even taking into account the horrible things that have happened.
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Drunk drivers kill maybe a few people at a time. A bomb going off on an airplane kills hundreds, even thousands. It doesn't really matter what's more likely statistically if something like that happens, does it?

The entire airport wasn't shut down, just the main terminal. How was anyone supposed to know there was a bomb in his luggage until it was investigated?
 
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MinnesotaNorthStar said:
Drunk drivers kill maybe a few people at a time. A bomb going off on an airplane kills hundreds, even thousands. It doesn't really matter what's more likely statistically if something like that happens, does it?

The entire airport wasn't shut down, just the main terminal. How was anyone supposed to know there was a bomb in his luggage until it was investigated?
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And drunk driver caused accidents happen thousands of times a year. Plane bombings? Zero. We're placing so much emphasis on the wrong things. Air travel statistically isn't dangerous, even with accidents/attacks factored in.

How was anyone supposed to know? How about the way he probably said it or situation he said it in? Back to the common sense theme... They messed up tagging the bags, he states it may have a bomb in it... better tag it right. Now, I'm not saying that it's a smart thing to say. It's obviously not, but I don't think it warrants the reaction it has received. If it really had a bomb in it, the absolute last thing the person trying to pass it through security is going to do is call attention to it. That's just dumb...

I'll say it again, airport security is there to make us feel safe, not actually make us safe...
 
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stuckinwi said:
And drunk driver caused accidents happen thousands of times a year. Plane bombings? Zero. We're placing so much emphasis on the wrong things. Air travel statistically isn't dangerous, even with accidents/attacks factored in.

How was anyone supposed to know? How about the way he probably said it or situation he said it in? Back to the common sense theme... They messed up tagging the bags, he states it may have a bomb in it... better tag it right. Now, I'm not saying that it's a smart thing to say. It's obviously not, but I don't think it warrants the reaction it has received. If it really had a bomb in it, the absolute last thing the person trying to pass it through security is going to do is call attention to it. That's just dumb...

I'll say it again, airport security is there to make us feel safe, not actually make us safe...
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How many drunk driving accidents would happen if people were screened before they got behind the wheel? Probably significantly less. I would not be surprised if there have been more airplane bombings per thousand flight hours, than drunk driving fatalities per thousand driving hours.

If you walk up to a cop and say, "I'm plastered," then get into a car and drive, do you think the cop is going to just laugh it off? No, he's going pull you over and give you sobriety tests and a breathalyzer. The difference is it's much easier to determine if someone's drunk, then it is to locate and check a bag for an explosive device at an airport.

You won't get a disagreement from me that airport security does more to make us feel safe, that it does actually make us safe. There are plenty of overreactions daily by the TSA and airport employees, but this is not one of them.
 
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Twitch Boy said:
WCHA has suspended Friesema indefinitely.
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After what happened, I wonder if he is forever on the "No Fly List". Since he was arrested he may be, I don't know how that works. If he is, the only games he could ever ref would be games in Colorado. I don't think the league had any choice but to suspend him.

He is suspended indefinitely "pending a review of an off-ice incident".
 
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Read carefully, folks. It really isn't known what he said. The gate agent wavered between it being a question and it being a statement. Zebra Boy says it was a question. If it was a statement, "a joke," then it is over the line and the airport needed to be checked and he needs to go away for awhile. But it really isn't clear that it wasn't a question, a completely valid, rational question to which a gate agent overreacted because (s)he had just made a security error him(her)self by mis-tagging the bags. It's easy to hate on refs, but let's please not rush to an early judgement. Anybody remember the lacrosse boys from Duke who were accused by someone who got a lot of coaching?
 
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UncleRay said:
Read carefully, folks. It really isn't known what he said. The gate agent wavered between it being a question and it being a statement. Zebra Boy says it was a question. If it was a statement, "a joke," then it is over the line and the airport needed to be checked and he needs to go away for awhile. But it really isn't clear that it wasn't a question, a completely valid, rational question to which a gate agent overreacted because (s)he had just made a security error him(her)self by mis-tagging the bags. It's easy to hate on refs, but let's please not rush to an early judgement. Anybody remember the lacrosse boys from Duke who were accused by someone who got a lot of coaching?
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It doesn't matter if it is a statement or a question. Insinuating that there is the slightest possibilitythere may be a bomb in luggage needs to be a situation that is investigated. Even if it's a joke. This has nothing to do with him being a ref. It's easy to hate on airline employees, but let's not rush to judgement that this is some vindictive gate/reservation agent.
 
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Asking an honest question is not making an insinuation of any kind whatsoever. Too many people are having a hard time understanding that. If he asked a question about the procedure to be followed in the event that a bomb was in a particular bag does NOT mean that he is saying that such a bomb exists, nor does it mean that he is implying that. His position appears to be that he was asking a question, and that jives with what the gate agent initially told the cops. You guys are pretty much saying that he can't ask about the procedure to be followed if shenanigans are found in the bag that now has his name on it. And that is something that is completely reasonable for him to be concerned about.

Remove the whole drama about it being a hockey ref. What happens if an inquisitive little kid asks a gate agent, "what if that bag has a bomb in it?" pointing to some bag on the conveyor belt? Are you going to drag him off for implying there is a bomb in that bag? Shut down the airport? Arrest the little criminal? No, you answer the question. And IF that is Friesema did - ask a question - then the same thing should happen to him.
 
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How about you just ask the agent to fix the problem, and say "I don't want to be responsible for his bag?"

WOW. COMMON F*ING SENSE WITHOUT USING THE WORD "BOMB"!!!! AMAZING.
 
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MinnesotaNorthStar said:
It doesn't matter if it is a statement or a question. Insinuating that there is the slightest possibilitythere may be a bomb in luggage needs to be a situation that is investigated. Even if it's a joke. This has nothing to do with him being a ref. It's easy to hate on airline employees, but let's not rush to judgement that this is some vindictive gate/reservation agent.
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I think you're right here on all counts MNS. In a post-911 society, it's ludicrous to even consider openly using the B-word in a joking manner or otherwise in ANY airport...period. Wisdom says, don't play with it. That was a clear lapse in judgment on the refs part, and frankly if I'm standing in line for the same flight, I'd feel a lot better if someone checked this guy out.

TSA personnel are not trained and qualified as a bomb squad experts to inspect baggage that may be suspect. But they are trained to respond immediately with procedural protocols in a case like this to determine if the threat is credible and if so, respond expediently with evacuation procedures to save lives.

However, I've been in airports all over the US and noticed security checks do vary at times from expected to suspicious overreaction to potential security threats. FWIW, TSA has admitted at times to overreacting to passengers. There's little doubt an impending investigation will be conducted to determine if TSA personnel followed proper security protocols to determine if this threat was credible to react as they did.
 
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That would stink to have to stay away from your home and job before your court date. This stupid remark is going to cost this guy so much. I kinda feel bad for him.
 
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Biddco said:
That would stink to have to stay away from your home and job before your court date. This stupid remark is going to cost this guy so much. I kinda feel bad for him.
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Yeah, me too. When the local news showed him standing before the judge wearing his orange suit he looked like he was gonna start crying. And he spoke so quietly the judge could hardly hear him. I'm sure he's pretty embarrassed.
 
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