What's new
By:
USCHO Fan Forum

This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

  • The USCHO Fan Forum has migrated to a new plaform, xenForo. Most of the function of the forum should work in familiar ways. Please note that you can switch between light and dark modes by clicking on the gear icon in the upper right of the main menu bar. We are hoping that this new platform will prove to be faster and more reliable. Please feel free to explore its features.

Vermont : Let the offseason begin...2011

Re: Vermont : Let the offseason begin...2011

The link to Ted Ryan's interview with Sneddon....http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/...ockey-team?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|Sports|p

Interesting notes : Leonard WILL be back for a 5th year. That is good as he really provides a spark and leadership for that 4th line. I have to imagine he will be wearing.

Also sounds like the plan is still for Girgenson to be here in the fall which will provide some definite offensive skill to the team.

It would be tough to see Mackenzie leave. I think next years team really needs him on the blue line IMO he was far and away the best defensmen last year and also has good offensive skills from the blue line... something UVM has never really had. With Bruneteau, Mackenzie adds that. I don't know, he had a great year, but I don't think the Sabres will benefit from bringing him in early. Who knows though.

Surprised at Sneddon's statement looking in to bringing in another F and D. I can't imagine there is scholarship money available at this point... wonder if this is due to losing players to departure/injury. The Cats were hit hard this year, having to resort to sending Burrows back to D, although that was actually probably the best thing.

Either way, UVM should be strong in net, solid on D if Mackenzie sticks around, and I think the offense will be there. I see a solid 1st,2nd,4th line and an excellent freshman 3rd line that could be very good.
 
Re: Vermont : Let the offseason begin...2011

BUMP

And, accolades for Sifers. http://www.examiner.com/chicago-wolves-in-chicago/chicago-wolves-present-team-award-to-sifers

In my opinion, team leadership was lacking this past season greatly. Captains a la Sifers and Strong were glaringly absent this past season. Who among next seasons team should garner letters?

Here's my prediciton :

Mackenzie "C"
Leonard "A"
McCarthy "A" ??

Also possibly Brickley? It would be nice to see a younger player step up as a team leader and provide a few years of consistency like Sifers was able to. Anyone else have thoughts or is everyone busy filling potholes?
 
Re: Vermont : Let the offseason begin...2011

I really don't know what to think but I am optimistic that they will be better next year than they were this year. the D was a disappointment both of the last two years. I think I just had too much expectation from them coming off the frozen four appearance. I now think that the batch of forwards we had back then were just excellent and made the D look good.

I believe the incoming D are expected to be an upgrade. Paolotti (something like that) is particularly highly thought of.

I doubt MacKenzie will leave early, if he does that would be a significant blow though as I agree that he is pretty solid and contributes offensively

No idea on captains, I don't think you can tell from the stands, but I agree that leadership seems to have been lacking, but I also heard Sneddon say that Millar was a good captain so hard to reconcile my perception of lacking leadership with that

without a lot of blue chip talent depth and effort need to carry the day for UVM and they lost depth with early departures (Pacan being the most crushing IMHO) and effort was seemingly sporadic (or maybe it was execution that was sporadic)

What makes anyone think that McCarthy might be captain and not Stalberg or Marshall or Roos? Not returning any double digit goal scorers is scary from an offensive perspective, but I do expect more out of Brickley next year

Girgensons will be young if he arrives as hoped - but that will give us one more year of him than we would otherwise have most likely. Brickley is also young, as was Pacan when he arrived

They will be ranked low in the media and coaches poll so they can be the underdogs and play with a chip on the shoulder next season, that is always a good place to come from

not time to go watch the tournament, not sure who to root for, I guess for BC to repeat or Mack, it's nice to keep the NC in hockey east. UNH looks awful right now, as usual come tournament time
 
Re: Vermont : Let the offseason begin...2011

snwbrdr said:
What makes anyone think that McCarthy might be captain and not Stalberg or Marshall or Roos? Not returning any double digit goal scorers is scary from an offensive perspective, but I do expect more out of Brickley next year
Click to expand...

I put McCarthy over Stalberg because IMO the ole "lead by example' just isn't working and I see Stalberg as a quieter more go out and do your job type player, where as I get the feeling McCarthy is a bit more of the in your face and vocal. That maybe entirely unaccurate but that is my sense of the two, you just don't see much emotion out of Stalberg, the opposite can be said for McCarthy.

I never considered Roos or Marshall. I don't think Roos is a captain, but there maybe some merit to Marshall.
 
Re: Vermont : Let the offseason begin...2011

I saw the negative comments on the Freep site about coaching. I don't buy it. Sneddon elevated the program to the level where our expectations went way up. This year would have been typical under the prior regime, not an aberration that generates negativity. If we were in the ECAC we would have had a mid pack finish this season with this team. I think our recruiting took a hit when Willie left but it will recover. We should start to see the benefit of the tourney appearances show up on campus this fall and next and that should help

I do think Sneddon has a very high standard and that is why Milo was tossed and Stacey quit. Pacan was an off ice issue that the coaching could not control (people make their own behavior decisions and exercise their own judgement and you can't always identify the borderline cases in recruiting - it's like hiring people to work for you - kind of a crapshoot to some degree)

I'm not sure about Atkinson but I am guessing that he was disappointed with his PT but he did not earn more than he got IMHO

Stalberg left because he went to the NHL, that is a GOOD thing in the long run for the program

Time to move on from the departures and focus on getting a new arena, that is the missing peice to a nationally competitive team on a consistent basis
 
Re: Vermont : Let the offseason begin...2011

snwbrdr said:
focus on getting a new arena, that is the missing peice to a nationally competitive team on a consistent basis
Click to expand...

I wonder how this will play out with Fogel leaving. He clearly has been a driver and huge supporter of athletics. I'm hoping that out of the proposals they received there is a legitimate proposal that can be put in place in the next 15 months before Fogel leaves. A new president that is a bit more athletic unfriendly and a new athletic complex could become a pipe dream.

On another note, saw on the schedules thread that LSSU will be a part of the holiday tourney. Hopefully there is a competitive OOC schedule next year with a cupcake or two at the beginning to generate a little bit of confidence... :D
 
Re: Vermont : Let the offseason begin...2011

jcarter7669 said:
I wonder how this will play out with Fogel leaving. He clearly has been a driver and huge supporter of athletics. I'm hoping that out of the proposals they received there is a legitimate proposal that can be put in place in the next 15 months before Fogel leaves. A new president that is a bit more athletic unfriendly and a new athletic complex could become a pipe dream.

On another note, saw on the schedules thread that LSSU will be a part of the holiday tourney. Hopefully there is a competitive OOC schedule next year with a cupcake or two at the beginning to generate a little bit of confidence... :D
Click to expand...

Playing Minnesota at Mariucci in a two game set, plus the usual ECAC games, as usual, good tough schedule. Don't think that is a cupcake opener. I like playing a nasty schedule and at least you can see where you stand. Guys need to respond, they did against Denver two years ago and lead to a solid season. Adding Zegmus and other forwards and another year of off season development for Stalberg, McCarthy, Roos and the freshman should be a great foundation.
 
Re: Vermont : Let the offseason begin...2011

jcarter7669 said:
I wonder how this will play out with Fogel leaving. He clearly has been a driver and huge supporter of athletics. I'm hoping that out of the proposals they received there is a legitimate proposal that can be put in place in the next 15 months before Fogel leaves. A new president that is a bit more athletic unfriendly and a new athletic complex could become a pipe dream.
Click to expand...
Since the plan, as I understand it, is it's going to be privately funded, it shouldn't have much effect at all. Who's going to balk at an athletic facility that's not costing the school or taking money away from so-called "more important things" like academics? :D
 
Re: Vermont : Let the offseason begin...2011

UVM Cat in Texas said:
Since the plan, as I understand it, is it's going to be privately funded, it shouldn't have much effect at all. Who's going to balk at an athletic facility that's not costing the school or taking money away from so-called "more important things" like academics? :D
Click to expand...

Is there actually a realistic chance of getting a new facility anytime soon or was this all blatant sarcasm :rolleyes:
 
Re: Vermont : Let the offseason begin...2011

midge843 said:
Is there actually a realistic chance of getting a new facility anytime soon or was this all blatant sarcasm :rolleyes:
Click to expand...
I guess it depends how you define "realistic." There was an article in the BFP may a month, or a month and a half ago, saying the school is evaluating about 10 or 11 proposals for multi-purpose arenas built with private funding. While it was encouraging, I'm not holding my breath. The need for a new facility has been talked about as long as I can remember, which goes back to about the mid-80s.
 
Re: Vermont : Let the offseason begin...2011

Paolotta and Girgensons are both the real deal and will be impact players and there are some other very solid freshmen in the incoming class. I think Brickley and Stalberg will have breakout years also. This team is going to have some real talent and suprise people next year. They will finish higher than anyone expects and make a run at an NCAA tourney spot.
 
Re: Vermont : Let the offseason begin...2011

snwbrdr said:
Paolotta and Girgensons are both the real deal and will be impact players and there are some other very solid freshmen in the incoming class. I think Brickley and Stalberg will have breakout years also. This team is going to have some real talent and suprise people next year. They will finish higher than anyone expects and make a run at an NCAA tourney spot.
Click to expand...

I'm inclined to agree with this. I think both Stalberg and McCarthy will put up decent numbers next year, I really hope White and Brickley turn it on. I think Lenz and Brickely were focused more on defensive play and less about being offensively creative. Hope those guys really go into next season think shoot. Girgenson definitely should be an immediate impact player and I think he would do well on a line with Marshall, possibly Roos. Would probably go along way towards helping Marshall put up some numbers too. Not sure there is a guy that is going to come out and put up 40pts, but I think the depth will make the offense a strength for the team, with every line being a legitimate threat to score... Madore in net should help the D and there are enough good returning D to pair with an incoming freshman to give some solid pairings. The biggest concern I have is the team leadership. This team needs to find a captain that leads the team from day 1. The past 2 years we have heard well into Dec. quotes from Sneddon to the effect of the team needing to take responsibility etc. They need a captain who will own the team from the very first Captains practice, and who has that drive to excel and hold the team accountable the entire season. But I think with losses at ME, MC, NU, UNH that UVM will be competeing for home ice next season.
 
Re: Vermont : Let the offseason begin...2011

UVM Cat in Texas said:
I guess it depends how you define "realistic." There was an article in the BFP may a month, or a month and a half ago, saying the school is evaluating about 10 or 11 proposals for multi-purpose arenas built with private funding. While it was encouraging, I'm not holding my breath. The need for a new facility has been talked about as long as I can remember, which goes back to about the mid-80s.
Click to expand...

Yeah, but is this the first time the proposals have been coming from privately funded sources? I'm not super optimistic by any means, but at least the state or university can't say "we don't have the money for that!"
 
Re: Vermont : Let the offseason begin...2011

midge843 said:
Yeah, but is this the first time the proposals have been coming from privately funded sources? I'm not super optimistic by any means, but at least the state or university can't say "we don't have the money for that!"
Click to expand...

It is the first time, at least recently. Historically, the Unviersity has only really talked about a new arena. A few years ago they formed a committee to actually look into. The committee, predictably, said it was necessary and listed off all the reasons we are aware of. Following, came the economic decline which halted all new capital projects, meaning the facility amoung a few others. I think that was maybe 2 years ago or so. A few months ago the University asked for proposals for a new facility with a variety of different criteria, including where, when and how. The biggest stipulation being that it had to be financed with private funds. Interestingly there were several proposals, If I am remembering correctly something 9-13 different proposals? My optimism for this going through is the actual numbers of proposals submitted. If 2-3 had been submitted I would be skeptical that any of them would fit al the requirements and be beneficial for the University, but I suspect with say 10 proposals I think UVM will find at least one that fits the bill and allows them to begin work. It would be nice to know at least some of the general info from those but we are left to speculate.

I think form a logistical standpoint the football field would make an excellent spot. It next door to the Sheraton, teams staying at the Sheraton would have easy access to the rink and I-89. There is a good deal of parking behind the Sheraton and on top of the hill which would be a quick walk, and there is access to East Ave for people headed to Colchester, Burlington, etc or to Main for people heading home to Williston, Winooski, etc. A partnership with the Sheraton and private financing could build it, and maybe there is a clause for UVM to house all visitors at the Sheraton in exchange. Something like that, at least is how I envision things happening. I don't know if that's any of the proposals, but I would imagine that's the type of think UVM is thinking.

I do think however, that a new rink is more likely then not in say the next 5 years or so.
 
Re: Vermont : Let the offseason begin...2011

jcarter7669 said:
It is the first time, at least recently. Historically, the Unviersity has only really talked about a new arena. A few years ago they formed a committee to actually look into. The committee, predictably, said it was necessary and listed off all the reasons we are aware of. Following, came the economic decline which halted all new capital projects, meaning the facility amoung a few others. I think that was maybe 2 years ago or so. A few months ago the University asked for proposals for a new facility with a variety of different criteria, including where, when and how. The biggest stipulation being that it had to be financed with private funds. Interestingly there were several proposals, If I am remembering correctly something 9-13 different proposals? My optimism for this going through is the actual numbers of proposals submitted. If 2-3 had been submitted I would be skeptical that any of them would fit al the requirements and be beneficial for the University, but I suspect with say 10 proposals I think UVM will find at least one that fits the bill and allows them to begin work. It would be nice to know at least some of the general info from those but we are left to speculate.

I think form a logistical standpoint the football field would make an excellent spot. It next door to the Sheraton, teams staying at the Sheraton would have easy access to the rink and I-89. There is a good deal of parking behind the Sheraton and on top of the hill which would be a quick walk, and there is access to East Ave for people headed to Colchester, Burlington, etc or to Main for people heading home to Williston, Winooski, etc. A partnership with the Sheraton and private financing could build it, and maybe there is a clause for UVM to house all visitors at the Sheraton in exchange. Something like that, at least is how I envision things happening. I don't know if that's any of the proposals, but I would imagine that's the type of think UVM is thinking.

I do think however, that a new rink is more likely then not in say the next 5 years or so.
Click to expand...

Thanks for the insight, Jcarter :)
 
Re: Vermont : Let the offseason begin...2011

Was going to check in to all the recruits now that the seasons for everyone are wrapping up and came across this blurb in Dubuques final regular season game recap.

" However, Nick Luukko connected with Zemgus Girgensons who was camped in front of Motte and was able to chip the puck in the net for a shorthanded goal that tied the game at two. "

Girgenson is third on the team with 49 pts in 50 gms. The next guy up is V. Saporini with 63 in 54 games. Girgensons has scored more goals the Saporini. That's pretty impressive considering Saporini has two season of NCAA hockey under his belt and is 4 years older. I also like the fact that Girgensons and Luukko are playing together and developing some chemistry that will hopefully carry over to Vermont. Of note, Luukko is second in scoring for d-man. Top scorer on that team is John Gaudreau, with 72 in 58gms is a Northeastern commit. Nice job by Cronin on grabbing him.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top