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Utica University 2024-25 - Retooled and Reloaded

I have been corrected directly from (a slightly perturbed) inside source that Geneseo did indeed bid for it. But they admit they are a long shot even if they win this Saturday.
 
Russell Jaslow said:
I have been corrected directly from (a slightly perturbed) inside source that Geneseo did indeed bid for it. But they admit they are a long shot even if they win this Saturday.
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Isn't it mathematically impossible for Geneseo to be the highest seeded team in the frozen four?
 
JSicedog said:
It doesn't matter what their seed is if there aren't any other final 4 teams that submitted bids to host.
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Let me help you out...if Utica and St. Norbert are both seeded higher than Geneseo, and both have bid on the Frozen Four, then Geneseo will not be in a position to host. So Tom Coughlin is correct. It isn't hard to figure out.
 
Sir Nubs said:
Let me help you out...if Utica and St. Norbert are both seeded higher than Geneseo, and both have bid on the Frozen Four, then Geneseo will not be in a position to host. So Tom Coughlin is correct. It isn't hard to figure out.
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Let me help you out…that is assuming any west teams submitted bids, which as of the deadline, they hadn’t. Therefore, Geneseo would be in a position to host if the final 4 was St Norbert, Geneseo, Hobart, Curry.
 
PrezdeJohnson09 said:
I’m not going to get into an internet argument but this is laughable that you are trying to dispute something that 100 percent has happened.
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Neither will I, but I know you aren’t correct. There were no West teams that submitted bids before the deadline. I don’t know why you think Russ and I would make that up out of thin air.
 
JSicedog said:
Neither will I, but I know you aren’t correct. There were no West teams that submitted bids before the deadline. I don’t know why you think Russ and I would make that up out of thin air.
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Whomever is telling you this is either making it up or lying to you. I actually feel bad for you that you're being used as a dupe for someone's fantasy agenda.
 
Sir Nubs said:
Whomever is telling you this is either making it up or lying to you. I actually feel bad for you that you're being used as a dupe for someone's fantasy agenda.
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Alright! No reason to get mad at me over St Norbert not submitting a bid. It wasn’t my decision.
 
JSicedog said:
Alright! No reason to get mad at me over St Norbert not submitting a bid. It wasn’t my decision.
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This year is an on-campus year for the finals. You are expecting us to believe that Utica is the only team left out of eight that has submitted a finals bid? Puhleeze. It defies any common sense and it simply is not true. Keep believing that fantasy instead of critically thinking about the scenario.
 
Sir Nubs said:
This year is an on-campus year for the finals. You are expecting us to believe that Utica is the only team left out of eight that has submitted a finals bid? Puhleeze. It defies any common sense and it simply is not true. Keep believing that fantasy instead of critically thinking about the scenario.
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You can believe whatever you want. Russ corroborated my statements earlier this morning as well.
 
JSicedog said:
Let me help you out…that is assuming any west teams submitted bids, which as of the deadline, they hadn’t. Therefore, Geneseo would be in a position to host if the final 4 was St Norbert, Geneseo, Hobart, Curry.
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Genny seems like the pick of the litter in that group, never mind any other considerations.

Still,The Cooler is clearly unfit, SNC apparently didn't bid, and Curry is convenient to Boston but looking too small to host (although I've not seen the capacity of their arena; just saw a few images.)

I've only been to The Ira a few times, but it was a good place to watch a game, and 1,800 seats is probably all any D-3 FF will ever need.
 
Russell Jaslow said:
Have you not been paying attention?

This year's championship weekend has to be on a "campus" (i.e., home rink) site of one of the remaining four teams. Period. If Utica loses Saturday, they can no longer host it.

This is why the NCAA is panicking (maybe panicking enough to ignore their rules and put it in Utica anyway? Who knows... But I doubt the other tenants who are willing to accommodate the home team would be willing to make the same concessions without Utica in it). They have very few good choices with the teams left in the tournament, especially since they wanted to go west.

It is my understanding that Curry and Geneseo have not bid for it. Nor has any western team, officially. Some are apparently rethinking their stance (Aurora, like Utica, has conflicts as they, too, play on a rink that isn't theirs, which might have been worked out). Nobody wants it in Hobart, who has bid for it. Hamilton would also be a poor choice, but I have no idea whether they put in a bid.

Just imagine this scenario -- three western teams win this weekend, but nobody wants it. So, the only choice is Curry/Hamilton, which can't handle it. (Looking at pictures, the Curry facility looks really nice, and appears it can handle the tournament from a logistical standpoint. But the seating is small, so you run into the same problem as Hobart -- being able to accommodate the fanbases of four teams.)

Personally, my gut feeling without much evidence, is the winner of the SNC/Utica game is going to host it, even if SNC hasn't yet put in a formal bid.
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This sort of thing is why the D-3 tournament is so confusing...

So, you're saying that bidding on hosting is meaningless, in that you can be an emergency host, anyway?

In that case. why bother with bidding in the first place?

Honest question.
 
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Fishman'81 said:
Genny seems like the pick of the litter in that group, never mind any other considerations.

Still,The Cooler is clearly unfit, SNC apparently didn't bid, and Curry is convenient to Boston but looking too small to host (although I've not seen the capacity of their arena; just saw a few images.)

I've only been to The Ira a few times, but it was a good place to watch a game, and 1,800 seats is probably all any D-3 FF will ever need.
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Curry's building according to their website only holds 700 people across two rinks, so assume 350 per sheet

Not ideal for the NCAA
 
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