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Utica College Pioneers 2012-13 Season (Part Two)

Re: Utica College Pioneers 2012-13 Season (Part Two)

nescachockey said:
The vitriol on this thread when the two teams didn't even meet in Lake Placid makes me sad that Utica and Oswego didn't play in the title game. The threads would have been legendary. Maybe in Lewiston?
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I highly doubt it. Maybe Utica vs. another SUNYAC team. Started looking at the numbers, UGLY. Oswego will need one of the best freshman classes to bypass Plattsburgh and Geneseo in the SUNYAC to win the SUNYAC, let alone an NCAA at large bid, and then let alone MAKE the FF.... If Oswego continues the streak, hands down Ed Gosek Coach of the Year, period.
 
Re: Utica College Pioneers 2012-13 Season (Part Two)

I apologize to the "respectful and normal" Utica fans for what I'm about to post.

Fishman is probably the sole reason why I headed to LP and did not root for Utica at all. I was asked several times who I was rooting for (since I had no real allegiance to any of the FF teams) and my response was continuously, "Anyone but Utica." What a shame. I would have loved to come to LP and be a neutral observer, but Fishman has no clue.

I actually felt like Fishman cloned himself several times and placed himself throughout the arena. Once it was evident Utica was going to lose the quarterfinal game, the Utica fans I was sitting near became quite belligerent. One even threw something toward the EC bench (missed, of course, and hit the fans in the front row).

This is just an assumption, but based on your idiotic posts, I could imagine Fishman acting in this way; whining and acting like he has no home training when his team is down. "Hockey itself doesn't matter, it's just something to talk about at the end of the day." This pretty much sums it up. Sour grapes.

Utica didn't look like a FF team in LP against EC. This was the first time I've seen them this year. I have high hopes for them next year, since they aren't losing much and are returning their top players. They had a great season. Hopefully, for Utica, Fishman won't follow the team anymore because hockey doesn't matter, but I have a feeling once they start winning next year, he'll be right there, declaring Utica be handed the NC and the #1 KRACH ranking.
 
Fishman'81 said:
The weekend games were, of course, "data", and in fact were by far the best weekend of directly comparative data involving UC, OSU and Norwich.

Utica came out ahead in the majority of the comparisons between these three teams, even if you irrationally insist on discounting H2H, which is clearly the most salient stat when looking at the UC/OSU comparison. :rolleyes:

The best team won in Placid, and it doesn't matter one way or the other which Eastern team finished second in some ranking-construct... But it's simply ridiculous to place OSU before UC, on the basis of the entire season.

(Your post was utterly absurd, in other words.)
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You want to know why Oswego is higher?
They took down the mighty Cortland The same can't be said for utica, you've got to look at the season as a whole as you've said in your post. Sometimes its not the teams you beat but the teams you lose to that matter.
 
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Re: Utica College Pioneers 2012-13 Season (Part Two)

The Cortland loss was a bad one for Utica, for sure, but are you saying that it's more significant in the UC/OSU comparison than the 2-0 advantage UC had in the H2H?

Come on.
 
Re: Utica College Pioneers 2012-13 Season (Part Two)

sticksnstones said:
I apologize to the "respectful and normal" Utica fans for what I'm about to post.

Fishman is probably the sole reason why I headed to LP and did not root for Utica at all. I was asked several times who I was rooting for (since I had no real allegiance to any of the FF teams) and my response was continuously, "Anyone but Utica." What a shame. I would have loved to come to LP and be a neutral observer, but Fishman has no clue.

I actually felt like Fishman cloned himself several times and placed himself throughout the arena. Once it was evident Utica was going to lose the quarterfinal game, the Utica fans I was sitting near became quite belligerent. One even threw something toward the EC bench (missed, of course, and hit the fans in the front row).

This is just an assumption, but based on your idiotic posts, I could imagine Fishman acting in this way; whining and acting like he has no home training when his team is down. "Hockey itself doesn't matter, it's just something to talk about at the end of the day." This pretty much sums it up. Sour grapes.

Utica didn't look like a FF team in LP against EC. This was the first time I've seen them this year. I have high hopes for them next year, since they aren't losing much and are returning their top players. They had a great season. Hopefully, for Utica, Fishman won't follow the team anymore because hockey doesn't matter, but I have a feeling once they start winning next year, he'll be right there, declaring Utica be handed the NC and the #1 KRACH ranking.
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I wasn't there, as much as I wanted to be; I had to work in a 24/7 hospital. (Some people have jobs that are deemed to be essential, right?) But it was a slow night, and I did see most of the games on my computer.

If there were drunken and stupid Utica fans there, the only thing that surprises me about that fact is that they found their way to LP, not that they actually exist. (I've seen them right here many times.)

I feel bad that you weren't rooting for UC because of my posts, and I'm sure that was a factor in why they lost to W-EC, who I've repeatedly said had the best weekend on the ice. :rolleyes:

So many of you guys regard D-3 hockey as life-or-death, and it's not even on the same planet as that... You calling me an idiot for putting-forth a reasonable assessment of a season just makes you look more so, when you compare the numbers.

(And, as a Platty fan, what exactly is your gripe, and don't you have somewhere else to go?)
 
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Does anyone know where to find the list of 2013 recruits ? Chris Heisenberg is the best for D1 but I can't find anything for D3.
 
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sshablak said:
Does anyone know where to find the list of 2013 recruits ? Chris Heisenberg is the best for D1 but I can't find anything for D3.
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There's a nice list running in another thread on these forums. But ultimately, things work much differently at the DIII level than they do at DI. There are no NLIs, no scholarship agreements, etc. No commitment is official - and therefore no school will officially discuss recruits in any fashion - until the students in question are enrolled, on campus, and taking classes. So the list in the other thread is clearly incomplete, and probably inaccurate (although, historically speaking, we've been able to do a good job of getting it relatively accurate in the past)
 
Fishman'81 said:
I wasn't there, as much as I wanted to be; I had to work in a 24/7 hospital. (Some people have jobs that are deemed to be essential, right?) But it was a slow night, and I did see most of the games on my computer.
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Yea because no one else here has essential jobs. Comforting knowing such an essential worker can watch hockey so much. Must be real essential..... Blue Plate Special?


So many of you guys regard D-3 hockey as life-or-death, and it's not even on the same planet as that... You calling me an idiot for putting-forth a reasonable assessment of a season just makes you look more so, when you compare the numbers.
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If your assessments were reasonable I'm going out on a limb here and thinking people wouldn't be calling you an idiot.....
 
Re: Utica College Pioneers 2012-13 Season (Part Two)

CARDS_rule_the_Burgh said:
There's a nice list running in another thread on these forums. But ultimately, things work much differently at the DIII level than they do at DI. There are no NLIs, no scholarship agreements, etc. No commitment is official - and therefore no school will officially discuss recruits in any fashion - until the students in question are enrolled, on campus, and taking classes. So the list in the other thread is clearly incomplete, and probably inaccurate (although, historically speaking, we've been able to do a good job of getting it relatively accurate in the past)
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collegecommitments.com
 
Re: Utica College Pioneers 2012-13 Season (Part Two)

PSUChamps2001 said:
Yea because no one else here has essential jobs. Comforting knowing such an essential worker can watch hockey so much. Must be real essential..... Blue Plate Special?

It was a slow night, as I said.




If your assessments were reasonable I'm going out on a limb here and thinking people wouldn't be calling you an idiot.....
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Being insulted by posters possessing as little acumen as yourself (and there are certainly others of your ilk) really doesn't leave a mark. No need to apologize.

To get back to my original point, if any of you troll-geniuses can make a case for Utica being ranked below OSU or NU right now, I'd love to hear it how you attempt to manage that.
 
Re: Utica College Pioneers 2012-13 Season (Part Two)

Fishman'81 said:
To get back to my original point, if any of you troll-geniuses can make a case for Utica being ranked below OSU or NU right now, I'd love to hear it how you attempt to manage that.
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How about the fact that both those teams had more wins then UC. Now stop feeding the trolls and they will go away
 
Re: Utica College Pioneers 2012-13 Season (Part Two)

Oswego and Norwich only lost to teams people would consider good, utica lost to Cortland and Elmira
 
Re: Utica College Pioneers 2012-13 Season (Part Two)

Geneseo or UMass-Boston would've beaten Utica in Lake Placid. So outmatched. Unless they had a terribly bad game, I'd say the hype was not warranted. But great teams can't have terribly bad games when the lights are brightest. They do it time and time again.
 
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