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Utica College Pioneers '13-'14 = Lewiston or Bust

Re: Utica College Pioneers '13-'14 = Lewiston or Bust

No matter what happens this weekend Utica and Elmira will be the 1 & 2 seeds (order to be determined this weekend) and will host a playoff game. The past two years, however, both teams hosting a semi-final game lost their games and the number 3 seed (Hobart in '12 and Neumann in '13) ended up winning the tournament. Will history repeat?
Speaking of which, the ECAC-West semi’s are scheduled to occur on March 1st, and I see that the Aud is booked that night at 7:00pm for “CNY Battleground 3”. If Utica cannot host, will the semi be held at the lower seed’s house? The next weekend (March 8th) is booked with the NY State High School Hockey State Championship D-1 Semi’s, but it looks like those games are slated for 10:00am and 12:30pm, so a 7:00pm ECAC-West Championship game should be good-to-go (assuming Utica is the highest remaining seed, of course!).

However, hosting a semi game on March 1st could certainly be a problem with the scheduling conflict. Maybe instead of going to the lower seed's ice, a double-header could be held in the Domes, offering-up a neutral ice option (I know, wishful thinking... right??). On second thought, scratch that... chances are that our Ladies will be hosting a quarterfinal game that day as well, so the dance card will be quite full in the Domes on March 1st!

And, just to throw some facts into the discussion (shame on me!!)... the following is taken from the 2012 ECAC DIII Hockey By-Laws, under section 9.3 titled "Championship Sites":

The top-seeded team will be given first consideration for hosting the
semifinals and championship. However, the directors of athletics will
consider all four remaining seeds in accordance with the following
factors:
1. Overall availability and condition of facilities
2. Minimizing travel costs to competing teams;
3. An institution’s ability to comply with “official agency” requests;
and
4. Potential to generate income.​

Stay tuned...
 
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Re: Utica College Pioneers '13-'14 = Lewiston or Bust

Speaking of which, the ECAC-West semi’s are scheduled to occur on March 1st, and I see that the Aud is booked that night at 7:00pm for “CNY Battleground 3”. If Utica cannot host, will the semi be held at the lower seed’s house? The next weekend (March 8th) is booked with the NY State High School Hockey State Championship D-1 Semi’s, but it looks like those games are slated for 10:00am and 12:30pm, so a 7:00pm ECAC-West Championship game should be good-to-go (assuming Utica is the highest remaining seed, of course!).

However, hosting a semi game on March 1st could certainly be a problem with the scheduling conflict. Maybe instead of going to the lower seed's ice, a double-header could be held in the Domes, offering-up a neutral ice option (I know, wishful thinking... right??). On second thought, scratch that... chances are that our Ladies will be hosting a quarterfinal game that day as well, so the dance card will be quite full in the Domes on March 1st!

And, just to throw some facts into the discussion (shame on me!!)... the following is taken from the 2012 ECAC DIII Hockey By-Laws, under section 9.3 titled "Championship Sites":

The top-seeded team will be given first consideration for hosting the
semifinals and championship. However, the directors of athletics will
consider all four remaining seeds in accordance with the following
factors:
1. Overall availability and condition of facilities
2. Minimizing travel costs to competing teams;
3. An institution’s ability to comply with “official agency” requests;
and
4. Potential to generate income.​

Stay tuned...

They made it work last year.
 
Re: Utica College Pioneers '13-'14 = Lewiston or Bust

The more I read from your posts, the more I realize you have no idea what you're talking about ! Plattsburgh is in fine shape for a Pool C and certainly doesn't "need the gift AQ just to qualify". They win virtually all comparisons with Eastern teams and all but SNC & Adrian out west. I don't think you understand the process of selecting Pool B or Pool C teams. Your outrageous views are growing old. Just stop telling us all how bad our teams are and take a little break from the boards.

Maybe I do, and maybe not, but do you, Cabin Boy?

The committee's selections last season were right in line with the KRACH. If that happens again, the SUNYAC will send only one team: it's AQ.

Face it: if Oswego, Genny or anybody else aside from the Cards wins the SUNYAC tournament, Platty won't have the numbers to displace several Western teams for an AL bid. There are just too many teams ahead of anyone in the SUNYAC out there for the committee to do that with a straight face.

(You little trolls really need to consider the cold, hard statistics before you pop-off in your typically ignorant manner.)
 
Re: Utica College Pioneers '13-'14 = Lewiston or Bust

Try you might learn something. Plattsburgh wins common opponents over UWEC, UWSP, STOUT AND UWRF in the West. Babson, Norwich and UMB in the East. Plattsburgh is tied for 3rd in win %. Head to head with Norwich as well. SOS is not accurate on the KRACH for another.

Blah blah blah, as per usual from you... The overall stats are not there for Platty right now, in a national sense. Once the Eastern AQ's are gifted, you'd better hope that your team has been gotten one, or they'll be staying home, clearly.

Figure it out, already.
 
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Blah blah blah, as per usual from you... The overall stats are not there for Platty right now, in a national sense.

Plattsburgh will be in the NCAAs. If you can't figure out why by now, just stick with D-1 and your Black Bears.
 
Re: Utica College Pioneers '13-'14 = Lewiston or Bust

Speaking of which, the ECAC-West semi’s are scheduled to occur on March 1st, and I see that the Aud is booked that night at 7:00pm for “CNY Battleground 3”. If Utica cannot host, will the semi be held at the lower seed’s house? The next weekend (March 8th) is booked with the NY State High School Hockey State Championship D-1 Semi’s, but it looks like those games are slated for 10:00am and 12:30pm, so a 7:00pm ECAC-West Championship game should be good-to-go (assuming Utica is the highest remaining seed, of course!).

However, hosting a semi game on March 1st could certainly be a problem with the scheduling conflict. Maybe instead of going to the lower seed's ice, a double-header could be held in the Domes, offering-up a neutral ice option (I know, wishful thinking... right??). On second thought, scratch that... chances are that our Ladies will be hosting a quarterfinal game that day as well, so the dance card will be quite full in the Domes on March 1st!

And, just to throw some facts into the discussion (shame on me!!)... the following is taken from the 2012 ECAC DIII Hockey By-Laws, under section 9.3 titled "Championship Sites":

The top-seeded team will be given first consideration for hosting the
semifinals and championship. However, the directors of athletics will
consider all four remaining seeds in accordance with the following
factors:
1. Overall availability and condition of facilities
2. Minimizing travel costs to competing teams;
3. An institution’s ability to comply with “official agency” requests;
and
4. Potential to generate income.​

Stay tuned...

After digging-in a bit more on the topic of March 1st, with the Elmira Women securing no-lower than the #2 seed in the ECAC-West, they will have a bye for the Quarterfinals, and a neutral ice option at the Domes could be a solution to the scheduling conflict at the Aud that day (again, March 1st). Although I must say... the ice, sticks, and hard-rubber pucks would certainly add to the entertainment value of the UFC match. :)

Again, stay tuned...
 
Re: Utica College Pioneers '13-'14 = Lewiston or Bust

Thank you NorthernBlight, maybe he'll listen to you. I'm learning to not take Rowdy Roddy Piper seriously. How can you? He is NEVER right !!
Plattsburgh will be in the NCAAs. If you can't figure out why by now, just stick with D-1 and your Black Bears.
 
Thank you NorthernBlight, maybe he'll listen to you. I'm learning to not take Rowdy Roddy Piper seriously. How can you? He is NEVER right !!

We've been trying now for a couple years. Like the saying goes, you can't fix the ignorant. We've tried going step by step, but are always "wrong". Best to just face the fact that fish is pretty much just an idiot that lives in his own mind.
 
Re: Utica College Pioneers '13-'14 = Lewiston or Bust

Get real.

WI-Superior is a tail-dragger in that conference; why even bring them up? They will very likely have nothing to do with the selection process, unlike SNC and Adrian.

CAN you ever admit when you are wrong?.. You said Adrian was the only team to come east and play.....they were not,,,plain and simple. Superior came east, played and lost.
 
Re: Utica College Pioneers '13-'14 = Lewiston or Bust

Blah blah blah, as per usual from you... The overall stats are not there for Platty right now, in a national sense. Once the Eastern AQ's are gifted, you'd better hope that your team has been gotten one, or they'll be staying home, clearly.

Figure it out, already.

Do you really think all the C bids will go to the west?
 
Re: Utica College Pioneers '13-'14 = Lewiston or Bust

They used to have to pull the microphone away from Rowdy Roddy Piper when he ranted and raved...."OK, we'll go to a commercial now"...that's what we're dealing with here. A combative, overbearing personality who happens to not know what he's ranting about. In his mind, St. Olaf, Augsburg and St. John's are more qualified Pool C choices. It begs the question "what color is the sky in your world?"
 
Re: Utica College Pioneers '13-'14 = Lewiston or Bust

CAN you ever admit when you are wrong?.. You said Adrian was the only team to come east and play.....they were not,,,plain and simple. Superior came east, played and lost.

They lost to Platty...but beat Norwich the next day in the consolation game. ;)
 
Re: Utica College Pioneers '13-'14 = Lewiston or Bust

They lost to Platty...but beat Norwich the next day in the consolation game. ;)

You are correct, the only point I was trying to make to Fishman was that Adrian is NOT the only western team to play in the east this season. There were also other east/west matchups.
 
Re: Utica College Pioneers '13-'14 = Lewiston or Bust

Plattsburgh will be in the NCAAs. If you can't figure out why by now, just stick with D-1 and your Black Bears.

Perhaps you can back-up that comment with some facts..?

PSU is 15th in the KRACH, is behind Trinity in the East, and has the 34th SOS ranking, nationally... Why in the world would any rational person award them an AL bid over the 12 Western teams that are all statistically better?

I bear no ill-will against Platty; that's a great program and it's not on them that Chumps is a drunken idiot... But if the Cards don't win the SUNYAC tournament they can't get in via any rational metric.
 
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Re: Utica College Pioneers '13-'14 = Lewiston or Bust

You are correct, the only point I was trying to make to Fishman was that Adrian is NOT the only western team to play in the east this season. There were also other east/west matchups.

Thing is, aside from Adrian, there were no strong Western teams that came East to build comparisons... Teams like WI-Superior aren't relevant, no matter where they play.
 
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