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USA Hockey Womens U18 Select 66 Camp Invites
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Re: USA Hockey Womens U18 Select 66 Camp Invites
WHAT?!?!?! Are you serious? There are many things f'ed up about kids hockey but $650 just for a tryout seems beyond the pale.
WHAT?!?!?! Are you serious? There are many things f'ed up about kids hockey but $650 just for a tryout seems beyond the pale.
charlieconway
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Checkbook hockey. What a racket.
I mean how could little Johnny or Jane ever earn a college scholarship without making a team that will put them on the $upposed fast track to a full-ride?
HappyGilmourCaddy
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Rocky Mountain, Northern Plains and Pacific thought it would be a good idea to hold a multi-district camp mid June to make player selections for NDC 3 weeks before St Cloud. All the while holding up at-large goalie selections. And obviously the 66 camp had to be chosen well before this date.
http://assets.ngin.com/attachments/document/0069/3053/FAQ-Revised-Girls_Multi-District_PDC.RMD.Contacts._2015_1-21-15.pdf
It was 5 days long and included room and board for players at Colorado College. From that perspective the cost is not bad but whether that was necessary to make selections is the real question. The late date also hampers making travel arrangements to National camp for those who make it.
hockeydad23
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Re: USA Hockey Womens U18 Select 66 Camp Invites
The timing of this entire process this year was less than ideal. With the final Districts not going until mid-June that held up players 'under consideration' for the Maine Select camp AND for alternates to St. Cloud. This isn't just about late travel arrangements for those from the Rocky Mountain and Pacific Districts but for many other players across the country as well.
I understand this is the first year with the Maine Select camp in the mix but hopefully USAHA recognizes these issues and makes adjustments to the timing in future years!
The timing of this entire process this year was less than ideal. With the final Districts not going until mid-June that held up players 'under consideration' for the Maine Select camp AND for alternates to St. Cloud. This isn't just about late travel arrangements for those from the Rocky Mountain and Pacific Districts but for many other players across the country as well.
I understand this is the first year with the Maine Select camp in the mix but hopefully USAHA recognizes these issues and makes adjustments to the timing in future years!
BlizzardDad
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Re: USA Hockey Womens U18 Select 66 Camp Invites
There will be girls here that drop out of 66 as it is proven they dont belong as their are girls in U18 camp who should have gone to 66.
There will be girls here that drop out of 66 as it is proven they dont belong as their are girls in U18 camp who should have gone to 66.
Ahockeydad
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Brooke Kudrika being one girl who I don't know how she got past over for this 66 camp. She was the top girl at the Central district camp. Maybe they don't like Omaha?
HockeyEast33
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Re: USA Hockey Womens U18 Select 66 Camp Invites
Ahhh.... the transparent parent poster... it never gets old...
Brooke is clearly a talented player and will do very well for herself. It appears she is committed to St Cloud State so she has cleared the most important hurdle - college evaluation and commitment (and I am guessing scholarship). Enjoy the success she has had and that is coming. Which national camp she gets invited to is largely immaterial at this point.
Ahhh.... the transparent parent poster... it never gets old...
Brooke is clearly a talented player and will do very well for herself. It appears she is committed to St Cloud State so she has cleared the most important hurdle - college evaluation and commitment (and I am guessing scholarship). Enjoy the success she has had and that is coming. Which national camp she gets invited to is largely immaterial at this point.
Re: USA Hockey Womens U18 Select 66 Camp Invites
That is the case for every camp. Thus my point, another camp below the 66 camp to keep people happy. Perhaps a Tier 2 Natty Camp?
That is the case for every camp. Thus my point, another camp below the 66 camp to keep people happy. Perhaps a Tier 2 Natty Camp?
Ahockeydad
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I am Ahockeydad. But Brooke is not my kid. No matter that she has a scholarship. Plenty of girls at this 66 camp with big time commitments. Just wondering how Kudrika slips through the cracks at a chance to improve herself and the opportunity to be on the U18 team.
I am new to all of this (Never played Hockey) so I was just asking the question.
Re: USA Hockey Womens U18 Select 66 Camp Invites
I see plenty of outstanding U18s on the camp this week in Minnesota. A lot of girls who have full or close to full scholarship acceptances and/or offers that I am aware of. So I would hardly call it a Tier 2 camp. Does the pool go a little too deep? I'm sure it does. As it does at the U15 camp. The numbers there are insane. One of my daughters was there last year and will be there again in a couple of weeks, and it was pretty diluted last year. I cannot imagine now that it is doubled how much worse it is going to be. Hopefully I am wrong.That is the case for every camp. Thus my point, another camp below the 66 camp to keep people happy. Perhaps a Tier 2 Natty Camp?
Re: USA Hockey Womens U18 Select 66 Camp Invites
Unfortunately I think you fears will be realized. It was diluted at the bottom last year and even with the addition of the legendary Minn HS girls (Minnie dig
) doubling the size of the camp this year will not make it better.
Unfortunately I think you fears will be realized. It was diluted at the bottom last year and even with the addition of the legendary Minn HS girls (Minnie dig
) doubling the size of the camp this year will not make it better.HappyGilmourCaddy
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Unfortunately I think you fears will be realized. It was diluted at the bottom last year and even with the addition of the legendary Minn HS girls (Minnie dig
This is the only way that USA Hockey has a chance to get a national snapshot of the top 5-10% 15 and under talent now that they have eliminated the 14 national camp. All will be "right-sized" every year when players move up to the 18 camps that include 2 birth years. Seems like a decent way to funnel talent over time by decreasing the opportunity.
I will be looking forward to the USCHO's poster evaluations of talent.
Re: USA Hockey Womens U18 Select 66 Camp Invites
There is a huge difference between the top 5% and say the 10% But is there a great difference between the 10% & 25%?
I would think the coaches would be better off scouting the NAHA Labor Day, Stoney Creek & US-Can Challenge than this Camp in MN.
There is a huge difference between the top 5% and say the 10% But is there a great difference between the 10% & 25%?
I would think the coaches would be better off scouting the NAHA Labor Day, Stoney Creek & US-Can Challenge than this Camp in MN.
Re: USA Hockey Womens U18 Select 66 Camp Invites
More times evaluating in different settings is a good thing. Many of the coaches are on the ice/bench with the players providing a different perspective than a tournament. Giving away up to $65k per year on a scholarship warrants a big time investment IMHO.
Ahockeydad
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So this is the National camp your talking about. Not the Advanced 66 camp? What do you mean by the camp is too deep. Do you mean there are too many lower level girls at this National camp? And there is a seperate camp for 15 year olds that do not mix with the U18 girls?
Re: USA Hockey Womens U18 Select 66 Camp Invites
The U15 camp is separate and is doubled in size, while they eliminated the U14 camp. The U15 camp will be severely diluted.
The current U18 camp is not the Elite 66 Camp. However I see a handful of girls who should have been at the 66 camp. There is a girl from Washington who is outstanding, had a couple of goals today. The top 25% of this camp is very good. The bottom 25% struggle.
The U15 camp is separate and is doubled in size, while they eliminated the U14 camp. The U15 camp will be severely diluted.
Ahockeydad
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Thanks for the clarification. Why did they get rid of the U14 Camp? Those are the girls going right into high school are they not? Would be good for them to be able to measure themselves vs other good talent before they go into high school.