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University of Maine 2024–2025: Freel-ing good

Sparkee said:
Everyone is hearing it is likely. Actually everyone is hearing it is a forgone conclusion because it is the result of that settlement of that lawsuit. Google it, you will find all the website talking like it is definitely happening.

for example:

https://www.ncsasports.org/mens-hockey/scholarships

Even the sports illustrated, espns, etc… are report it like it is a done deal.

So these aren’t only small dorks with blogs reporting it.

26 scholarships will happen and Maine will give out 26 full time rides. For both men’s and women’s likely.

You don’t spend 170 million on athletic upgrades to get cheap and say well we can’t afford an extra 8 scholarships for each hockey team.

That’s like saying I bought a big house on the ocean and after renovations I’ll have spent $5 million on it… but I’ll be damned if I pay the $75k in taxes each year. I won’t spend a penny more than $50k. Then they put a lien on your house and eventually make you sell it to pay the taxes you owe. Doesn’t make a lot of sense.

People in here thinking Maine will still be competitive only giving out 18 when other schools give out 26 are delusional. As delusional as the guy that can afford $5 million dollar house but not paying the extra $25K out of principles.
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I'm not sure who doesn't think Maine will be giving out 26 full scholarships. Everything I've read suggests that almost all of D-I will be opting in. Now, the "revenue sharing" piece that caps the transfer from schools to athletes at like $22M is absolutely not going to be universal, but the exceptions to the opt in are going to be the Ivies (don't need to, pretty much everyone attends for free anyways), and I read somewhere that the Northeast Conference (which includes hockey schools Mercyhurst and Stonehill) may not opt in.

I'm curious what it means for the multi-division schools. D-III schools aren't doing the opt-in for D-III sports, but what does that mean for (say) St. Lawrence?
 
Sparkee said:
Everyone is hearing it is likely. Actually everyone is hearing it is a forgone conclusion because it is the result of that settlement of that lawsuit. Google it, you will find all the website talking like it is definitely happening.

for example:

https://www.ncsasports.org/mens-hockey/scholarships

Even the sports illustrated, espns, etc… are report it like it is a done deal.

So these aren’t only small dorks with blogs reporting it.

26 scholarships will happen and Maine will give out 26 full time rides. For both men’s and women’s likely.

You don’t spend 170 million on athletic upgrades to get cheap and say well we can’t afford an extra 8 scholarships for each hockey team.

That’s like saying I bought a big house on the ocean and after renovations I’ll have spent $5 million on it… but I’ll be damned if I pay the $75k in taxes each year. I won’t spend a penny more than $50k. Then they put a lien on your house and eventually make you sell it to pay the taxes you owe. Doesn’t make a lot of sense.

People in here thinking Maine will still be competitive only giving out 18 when other schools give out 26 are delusional. As delusional as the guy that can afford $5 million dollar house but not paying the extra $25K out of principles.
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The school didn’t spend $170MM. It was the Alfonds, New Balance, etc. I would be surprised if Maine opted in to the new arrangement voluntarily.
 
Drew S. said:
The school didn’t spend $170MM. It was the Alfonds, New Balance, etc. I would be surprised if Maine opted in to the new arrangement voluntarily.
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I knew you would say this. That is why I put emphasis on how foolish you and one other poster would be about Maine not opting in. I am sure we will hear soon from the other poster where he says “where will they get the money?”. You also are on record for saying you would be surprised if Maine makes the NCAAs right after the first loss to Denver. Since that time Maine is 3-1-1 against teams in the bubble with a sweep on the road against Lowell. Not shabby and Maine sits tied for 2nd in HE and 6th in the pairwise. Your opinions are foolish. Not all of them, but very many of them.
 
Sparkee said:
I knew you would say this. That is why I put emphasis on how foolish you and one other poster would be about Maine not opting in. I am sure we will hear soon from the other poster where he says “where will they get the money?”. You also are on record for saying you would be surprised if Maine makes the NCAAs right after the first loss to Denver. Since that time Maine is 3-1-1 against teams in the bubble with a sweep on the road against Lowell. Not shabby and Maine sits tied for 2nd in HE and 6th in the pairwise. Your opinions are foolish. Not all of them, but very many of them.
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Ahhh. That explains it. I did not "opt in" to seeing Drew's posts.

Maine will opt in. As will 90+% of Division I. Look no further than the baseball program, in which a bunch of recruits posted that due to upcoming NCAA regulations they are no longer committed to UMaine. The only regulation that could be is a roster limit, which would not apply if Maine was not opting in.

I would venture so far to say that if Maine did not opt in it would be the only school in Hockey East, America East, or the CAA to do so. Moot point, though, Maine is opting in.
 
AMC said:
Ahhh. That explains it. I did not "opt in" to seeing Drew's posts.

Maine will opt in. As will 90+% of Division I. Look no further than the baseball program, in which a bunch of recruits posted that due to upcoming NCAA regulations they are no longer committed to UMaine. The only regulation that could be is a roster limit, which would not apply if Maine was not opting in.

I would venture so far to say that if Maine did not opt in it would be the only school in Hockey East, America East, or the CAA to do so. Moot point, though, Maine is opting in.
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I agree, Interesting point on the baseball roster limit.
 
If Maine wants to compete they will have to opt in. With a newish Alfond, new softball, new soccer, new field hockey and soon a new BBall facilty, the U would look pretty bad if they can't come up with the money. Not sure how the U faired in Mills new budget but I'd guess not that well. Hopefully the funding for the scholarships is private. Just remember title IX though so its going to cost more than just 8 schollies in Mens Hockey. Can you imagine how many draft picks BC and BU will have with 26 scholarships.

When is NIL going to enter the picture? Ohio State has something like 20 million in NIL money for football alone.
 
walrus said:
If Maine wants to compete they will have to opt in. With a newish Alfond, new softball, new soccer, new field hockey and soon a new BBall facilty, the U would look pretty bad if they can't come up with the money. Not sure how the U faired in Mills new budget but I'd guess not that well. Hopefully the funding for the scholarships is private. Just remember title IX though so its going to cost more than just 8 schollies in Mens Hockey. Can you imagine how many draft picks BC and BU will have with 26 scholarships.

When is NIL going to enter the picture? Ohio State has something like 20 million in NIL money for football alone.
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I think that the state's rainy day fund should be renamed for Janet Mills. Taxes stay high, but nothing gets spent.
 
walrus said:
When is NIL going to enter the picture? Ohio State has something like 20 million in NIL money for football alone.
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That is the 800 lb. gorilla in the room, ain't it?

It's all going to depend on what programs the donors earmark the money for, seems to me. If B10 donors throw money at hockey anything like they throw it at football, Katy bar the effin' door.

If not, schools like Maine, BU, Denver, BC, NoDak -schools with hockey being their only nationally prominent sport- could maybe stay competitive while the wealthy schools concentrate on cash cows like football and hoops.

It'll be interesting to see, going forward.
 
UncleRay said:
I'm guessing the big schools could find more spare change in the NIL couch than Maine could come up with.
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Won't be shocked if that's the case.

Football and hoops will likely condense into a handful of deep pocket programs that leave everyone else in the dust, but maybe a niche sport such as college hockey could continue to enjoy a little parity going forward.

I hope so, otherwise 85% of college hockey schools will either play just for fun, or fold up their tents altogether.
 
Fishman'81 said:
That is the 800 lb. gorilla in the room, ain't it?

It's all going to depend on what programs the donors earmark the money for, seems to me. If B10 donors throw money at hockey anything like they throw it at football, Katy bar the effin' door.

If not, schools like Maine, BU, Denver, BC, NoDak -schools with hockey being their only nationally prominent sport- could maybe stay competitive while the wealthy schools concentrate on cash cows like football and hoops.

It'll be interesting to see, going forward.
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I wouldn't put Maine with any of those schools you mentioned. The other 4 are apt to have way more NIL money. I think Bangor Savings has had a Maine player in some ads so we have that going for us :)
 
Football related but former Maine OC Liam Coen is now a head coach in the NFL taking the Jaguars job. Think he’s the second guy with ties to the program to become an NFL HC (Steve Spagnuolo was the first).
 
Did any of you guys see the men's basketball team's 86-85 OT win down at Lowell last night? That was something. I actually bought tix to the Vermont and Bryant games after that performance. This is turning out to be a fun winter in Orono!
 
BC spanks BU, Lowell ties PC and UNH loses to UVM. Maine moved to 5th in PWR, UConn is 6th in PWR.
I saw the BBall score, beating Lowell on the road with 5 pts in the last 10 secs. Pretty cool been a long time since Maine mens BBall has been competitive in their conference. Can't wait to see what Ace Flagg adds to the team next season
 
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