Union College Dutchmen Hockey 2010-11: There's one way and that's to Atlantic City!

[TheTeamYouLikeSucks]

Re: Union College Dutchmen Hockey 2010-11: There's one way and that's to Atlantic Cit

i gotta say, that union power play was **** impressive. unfortunate that it was on the ice so often...

 

[UnionHockeyManiac]

Re: Union College Dutchmen Hockey 2010-11: There's one way and that's to Atlantic Cit

During the day, I had two questions answered by ESPN/INCH college hockey analyst, Joe Gladziszewski (I'm Will F from New York City). His answer to my second question convinced me to make the trip to Princeton : http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/36787/inside-college-hockey

The whole day, I put off asking my boss about leaving early because he was busy and I was doing a lot of stuff. I knew that in order to make the train 6:03 train from Penn, I would have to leave work not a second later than 5:50. However, at 5:55, I talked to him and basically said "I'm going to take off now." I left work, sprinted 7 blocks and 2 crosstown blocks and made the 6:03 train as the doors were closing. Never ran that fast in my life. My train got in "Princeton Junction" at 6:55 and then the worst part of my trip began: The taxi driver had NO idea where the hockey rink at Princeton was so I didn't get to the game until 7:40, just before the 2nd period was starting.

When the 2nd period started, Princeton promptly scored three goals and I immediately regretted making that trip. However, Union showed tremendous fight and resilience by getting those three goals right back and then some! We ended the period scoring four unanswered to take a 5-4 lead and then piled on two more for the 7-4 victory. It was one of the better comeback victories I have seen in my time as a Union fan.

It was cool to be in the 2nd oldest rink in college hockey, but it was eerily quiet. The only time the fans made ANY sort of noise was when Princeton scored a goal and even then, it was just a one second outburst followed by everyone taking their seats again. No chants. No students. No noise. It was still a good experience.

I ended up paying $75+ for transportation/ticket and I didn't get back into NYC until 11:30 but it was all worth it because UNION WON! I don't think I'll be able to make it to Quinnipiac tonight because of the weather but hopefully Union can further improve our PWR because Quinny is a TUC. They battled to a 3-3 tie with RPI last night and should not be taken lightly.

#7 in the pairwise rankings now. If the season ended today (unfortunately it doesn't), we would be a #2 seed in the National Tournament!! Hopefully the hot streak continues tonight in Hamden.

 

[Dutchfan]

Re: Union College Dutchmen Hockey 2010-11: There's one way and that's to Atlantic Cit

Great win tonight! This game could've easily gone either way. Q-pac played extremely well tonight and Hartzell was outstanding in net. Nice to see Pallos net the winner in OT as well. Tonight's win gives Union 20 on the season, the Dutchmen are the first team in the country to that mark this season.

 

[burgie12]

Re: Union College Dutchmen Hockey 2010-11: There's one way and that's to Atlantic Cit

Congratulations on clinching home ice.

PS Nice sweep this weekend.

 

[Miami Ice]

Re: Union College Dutchmen Hockey 2010-11: There's one way and that's to Atlantic Cit

It was in the mid eighties in south Florida on Saturday but there is nothing hotter than the Union hockey team.What a weekend! Last night was a nailbiter with the Dutchmen ultimately prevailing. After Friday's miracle on ice one has to wonder how the top teams endure the pressure week in and week out during the longest season in college sports.
Alas, there is no rest for the weary. With a ravenous Colgate team due at Achilles next week followed by a resurgent Cornell club, the Dutchmen face another high hurdle. We said that a Yale victory would spool up the turbo. So far, so good!

 

[FlagDUDE08]

Re: Union College Dutchmen Hockey 2010-11: There's one way and that's to Atlantic Cit

Assuming Mr. Schott's reporting is accurate (and typically it is), congratulations on your first top 10 rank.

 

[OsecnUC]

Re: Union College Dutchmen Hockey 2010-11: There's one way and that's to Atlantic Cit

And congrats back at you for your team having a lower winning percentage in conference and overall, having scored 20 less goals, and being ranked above Union again. It's been pointed out many times how this subjective rating really doesn't mean anything and, lately, I must agree.

 

[Wholin1]

Re: Union College Dutchmen Hockey 2010-11: There's one way and that's to Atlantic Cit

And congrats back at you for your team having a lower winning percentage in conference and overall, having scored 20 less goals, and being ranked above Union again. It's been pointed out many times how this subjective rating really doesn't mean anything and, lately, I must agree.

As they say..."for entertainment only". Still it's of interest to me how U and RPI are not only neighbors, travel partners, etc. but have been shadowing each other on and off the ice, i.e. by their even results against each other, rankings, PWR, etc., for the better part of the season.

Those were two gritty come from behind wins this weekend. As Nate Leaman pointed out though, repeated slow starts need to be avoided. Still and all it's good to know that when the pedal is put down, there are plenty of horses under the hood. Another big test this weekend, but isn't it like that every week? There really are no breathers in this game.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

Re: Union College Dutchmen Hockey 2010-11: There's one way and that's to Atlantic Cit

And congrats back at you for your team having a lower winning percentage in conference and overall, having scored 20 less goals, and being ranked above Union again. It's been pointed out many times how this subjective rating really doesn't mean anything and, lately, I must agree.

A little testy today, are we? If you'd like to go down that road, take a looksies at the PWR ranks, which matters a little bit more (RPI is ahead of you there, although you do have the matchup over us).

I try to pay compliments on here, but sometimes it just plain backfires...

 

[FlagDUDE08]

Re: Union College Dutchmen Hockey 2010-11: There's one way and that's to Atlantic Cit

As they say..."for entertainment only". Still it's of interest to me how U and RPI are not only neighbors, travel partners, etc. but have been shadowing each other on and off the ice, i.e. by their even results against each other, rankings, PWR, etc., for the better part of the season.

Those were two gritty come from behind wins this weekend. As Nate Leaman pointed out though, repeated slow starts need to be avoided. Still and all it's good to know that when the pedal is put down, there are plenty of horses under the hood. Another big test this weekend, but isn't it like that every week? There really are no breathers in this game.

If you ask me, travel partners like this creates one of the best situations not only in the league, but nationally (should teams choose to play both of us instead of just one of us in a weekend series). Teams are starting to dread having to go to the Albany area to play us. That's the way it should be.

 

[union07]

Re: Union College Dutchmen Hockey 2010-11: There's one way and that's to Atlantic Cit

No matter what happens for the rest of the season we have had the chance to watch one special team. GO U!

 

[OsecnUC]

Re: Union College Dutchmen Hockey 2010-11: There's one way and that's to Atlantic Cit

A little testy today, are we? If you'd like to go down that road, take a looksies at the PWR ranks, which matters a little bit more (RPI is ahead of you there, although you do have the matchup over us).

I try to pay compliments on here, but sometimes it just plain backfires...

Not testy, just objective. PWR rankings are a derivative of ranking so, again, it is subjective. The only thing that really matters is that U & RPI have played the identical conference schedule and U is 4 pts up. At the end of the day it is what you do on the ice that matters, not what opinion some committee has. If you win all your games you will be national champion... on the ice (and the pollsters will have to vote you tops).

Since RPI has played in the tournament (although the last time was 17 years ago) they ride the wave of being a recognizable program nationally while U still struggles to be noticed outside of the ECAC. This is reflected consistently in the weekly national rankings.

And, yes, this is strictly conjecture. The rankings, as Wholin points out, is just for entertainment value.

BTW, I learned years ago to forget the compliments. Yes they do backfire...especially when shared with the guys on the other side of the tracks (or Northway)

 

[Hokydad]

Re: Union College Dutchmen Hockey 2010-11: There's one way and that's to Atlantic Cit

Not testy, just objective. PWR rankings are a derivative of ranking so, again, it is subjective. The only thing that really matters is that U & RPI have played the identical conference schedule and U is 4 pts up. At the end of the day it is what you do on the ice that matters, not what opinion some committee has. If you win all your games you will be national champion... on the ice (and the pollsters will have to vote you tops).

Since RPI has played in the tournament (although the last time was 17 years ago) they ride the wave of being a recognizable program nationally while U still struggles to be noticed outside of the ECAC. This is reflected consistently in the weekly national rankings.

And, yes, this is strictly conjecture. The rankings, as Wholin points out, is just for entertainment value.

BTW, I learned years ago to forget the compliments. Yes they do backfire...especially when shared with the guys on the other side of the tracks (or Northway)

exactly

 

[Wholin1]

Re: Union College Dutchmen Hockey 2010-11: There's one way and that's to Atlantic Cit

The hiring of a strength coach is important for a couple of reasons. Obviously, the team on the ice will benefit. But also, I think it is another indication that the administration is starting to provide more resources to the program. Although it is my understanding that the strength coach will be working with several teams, I note that he will be based in the Travis J. Clarke Center which is located in the ground floor at Messa and also that he is a former college hockey player at BU (I'm guessing that volunteer assistant Jason Tapp may have made the connection here). I believe Union was the only ECAC hockey program still without a strength coach. I also understand that the Garnet Blades were instrumental in at least partially funding this hire. I also am hopeful that there will be some positive developments within the next few years with regard to upgrading Messa.

http://unionathletics.com/news/2011/2/7/GEN_0207111733.aspx

 

[Ralph Baer]

Re: Union College Dutchmen Hockey 2010-11: There's one way and that's to Atlantic Cit

Since RPI has played in the tournament (although the last time was 17 years ago) they ride the wave of being a recognizable program nationally while U still struggles to be noticed outside of the ECAC. This is reflected consistently in the weekly national rankings.

And since RPI is a liberal arts school, we know that 1995 is 16 years ago.

 

[OsecnUC]

Re: Union College Dutchmen Hockey 2010-11: There's one way and that's to Atlantic Cit

And since RPI is a liberal arts school, we know that 1995 is 16 years ago.

right you are...sometimes my memory fails me..thought it was '94.

Thanks for the negative rep from NYHockeyguy, realet, and, of course Red Cloud.

realet points out the we played West Point, AIC, and Sacred Heart this season. Guess you forgot the powerhouses RPI has played like Connecticut, Alabama, and New Brunswick. Tell me what these games have to do with conference play?

Maybe you guys should realize that your team currently trails Union and you shouldn't get so lost in your fanaticism.
I guess the floodgates are open and now we'll see all the bullies jump on the dog pile with negative rep.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

Re: Union College Dutchmen Hockey 2010-11: There's one way and that's to Atlantic Cit

right you are...sometimes my memory fails me..thought it was '94.

Thanks for the negative rep from NYHockeyguy, realet, and, of course Red Cloud.

realet points out the we played West Point, AIC, and Sacred Heart this season. Guess you forgot the powerhouses RPI has played like Connecticut, Alabama, and New Brunswick. Tell me what these games have to do with conference play?

Maybe you guys should realize that your team currently trails Union and you shouldn't get so lost in your fanaticism.
I guess the floodgates are open and now we'll see all the bullies jump on the dog pile with negative rep.

New Brunswick was an exhibition game, guy. It doesn't count towards the stats. Also, given the original topic of the debate, I don't think we have to tell you why non-conference play is being included in the discussion.

Plus, having Hokey-dope in agreement with you isn't necessarily a good thing.

 

[OsecnUC]

Re: Union College Dutchmen Hockey 2010-11: There's one way and that's to Atlantic Cit

Plus, having Hokey-dope in agreement with you isn't necessarily a good thing.

yeah, I caught that too...kinda hoped it would just disappear lol

 

[Red Cloud]

Re: Union College Dutchmen Hockey 2010-11: There's one way and that's to Atlantic Cit

realet points out the we played West Point, AIC, and Sacred Heart this season. Guess you forgot the powerhouses RPI has played like Connecticut, Alabama, and New Brunswick. Tell me what these games have to do with conference play?

RPI played 3 games against UConn and UAH and didn't beat up on either one. New Brunswick doesn't count in the standings, but you knew that (or maybe you didn't). Union played four against the three and trashed them all (AKA, stat compiliing). It doesn't have anything to do with conference play, but then again neither does your 20 wins that you were busy crowing about.

Maybe you guys should realize that your team currently trails Union and you shouldn't get so lost in your fanaticism.
I guess the floodgates are open and now we'll see all the bullies jump on the dog pile with negative rep.

This smacks of a person who can dish it out but can't take it. That's why you get negative rep, not because we're "bullies" but because you talk copious amounts of trash. Ever thus to chest-beaters. You can't be satisfied with your own success, you have to try to prove yourself "better" than someone else. The standings are one thing, the games are another.

You're a poor excuse of a Union fan, I'm disappointed that real fans like Wholin1 and Dutchfan have to put up with tools like you and unionbob.

 

[Hokydad]

Re: Union College Dutchmen Hockey 2010-11: There's one way and that's to Atlantic Cit

New Brunswick was an exhibition game, guy. It doesn't count towards the stats. Also, given the original topic of the debate, I don't think we have to tell you why non-conference play is being included in the discussion.

Plus, having Hokey-dope in agreement with you isn't necessarily a good thing.

Thats true Flagdude.

What elase is also true is all the crazy posts and arguing over a recruit coming in next year and points etc. Since we are on the subject of "how do these crazy numbers make sense".

lets take a quick look

I simply had stated that it is wrong to constantly be reading that, "points will be added", or "more points will show up soon"

7 points in first 9 games and plus 7, some added and changed.

After it was discussed, not 1 point in the next 18 games and a minus 1, worst on team over that stretch. Not 1 point.



Some of the racehorses at Union will be diving over the boards for matchups next season.....