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UNH Wildcats - '10 Playoff Edition

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Was able to catch only Sunday's game and I have to give UVM and thier entire squad a ton of credit. Got laughed at after nearly 40 solid minutes on Friday night and turned around and blanked UNH for almost 7 straight periods of play. UVM played great. That is why they are proceeding. You can complain all you want and even compare quality recruits, but guess what. UNH still only gave up 2 goals in 7 periods themselves, 8 if you count the 3rd on Friday. UNH played decently as well, Sunday.

For the person who asked about the gwg, it was a nice one. Puck squirted to the slot, kid was there and wasted no time thinking about it. He put it high blocker side.. realy nice goal it was.

UNH had plenty of even man rushes, but were almost always knocked to the corners.. and for the most part UNH did a pretty good job of handling UVM forwards (2 goals in 8 periods). in fact UNH manned up pretty well late, out right stripping UVM on a # of occassions in the offensive zone. I for one though UVM was basically out of gas, having only flares of offense in the second part of the 3rd and OT. But they continued to bunch the middle- put their boddies on the ice in front of Madore and gave it one hell of a battle until there was a winner. UNH did the same. They just didn't get the goal.
FOSTER WAS GREAT!! Absolutely great. I recall, a swift move to the net from Foster's left, along the goal line, kid competely deeked the D-man, got to the net to a crowd and out of NOWHERE, Foster's right pad leg, stonewalls what would have been a gwg. He was great.

My thoughts.. UNH will get in the dance and maybe even end up in Albany, but most likely get shipped out West. I've tinkered with the PWR and can't getthem past 9th..but usually finding the 10th or 11th. While they've had their early game issues at times- there is no quit in these kids, some teams just play better from behind, maybe this is that team. Maybe they should spot their next opponent 1 or 2 goals, to get them movin!

And while the 'talent' might not be up to where it was in the late 90's. it's much more spread out now.. it's not like Michigan, Minny, UND, BC, BU, No.DAK etc,.. are head an shoulders above everyone else. in fact, BU, Minny, Michigan and UND will be LUCKY, not fortunate, to be in the dance this yr. Recruting is getting tougher, talent is being groomed and 'systemitized' quicker.. the Haydar's and Nolan's, and Bogi's wouldn't look the same today.
-Consider this, for all the griping that I've read, as well as the praise, this Sr. Class missed out playing with the following K. Yandle(4yrs?), D Kolomitis(3yrs) yrs, R. Bourque,(1yr) JVR(1yr even if it was expected), T. Smith (2yrs). M. White and C. Reid(1yr).. oh, D.Dries(1yr).. tough cards.. and I didn't hear or read any ******ing from them! They laced'em up and gave it their all.. and if given the opportunity to play 1 -4 more games this yr.. I'm sure they'll do the same. I also recall, a skinny, slow- under impressive coaches kid from Malboro(much like. B. Kessel) getting a lot of flack about his 'talent' level when he first came to town.. kid is a Hobey Baker Finalist, and a good one at that. and w/ LeBlanc lead his team, as a Sr. to a RS Championship... Would anyone have guessed that of him coming in??

The voice of reason.;)

If UVM continues to play like they did Saturday and Sunday, they will be difficult to beat. How many other Hockey East goalies are capable of stopping 50 out of 51 shots? A poster on the UML thread noted that Brian Foster is under-rated. He deserves more recognition for his outstanding play throughout the season.
 
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Was able to catch only Sunday's game and I have to give UVM and thier entire squad a ton of credit. Got laughed at after nearly 40 solid minutes on Friday night and turned around and blanked UNH for almost 7 straight periods of play. UVM played great. That is why they are proceeding. You can complain all you want and even compare quality recruits, but guess what. UNH still only gave up 2 goals in 7 periods themselves, 8 if you count the 3rd on Friday. UNH played decently as well, Sunday.

For the person who asked about the gwg, it was a nice one. Puck squirted to the slot, kid was there and wasted no time thinking about it. He put it high blocker side.. realy nice goal it was.

UNH had plenty of even man rushes, but were almost always knocked to the corners.. and for the most part UNH did a pretty good job of handling UVM forwards (2 goals in 8 periods). in fact UNH manned up pretty well late, out right stripping UVM on a # of occassions in the offensive zone. I for one though UVM was basically out of gas, having only flares of offense in the second part of the 3rd and OT. But they continued to bunch the middle- put their boddies on the ice in front of Madore and gave it one hell of a battle until there was a winner. UNH did the same. They just didn't get the goal.
FOSTER WAS GREAT!! Absolutely great. I recall, a swift move to the net from Foster's left, along the goal line, kid competely deeked the D-man, got to the net to a crowd and out of NOWHERE, Foster's right pad leg, stonewalls what would have been a gwg. He was great.

My thoughts.. UNH will get in the dance and maybe even end up in Albany, but most likely get shipped out West. I've tinkered with the PWR and can't getthem past 9th..but usually finding the 10th or 11th. While they've had their early game issues at times- there is no quit in these kids, some teams just play better from behind, maybe this is that team. Maybe they should spot their next opponent 1 or 2 goals, to get them movin!

And while the 'talent' might not be up to where it was in the late 90's. it's much more spread out now.. it's not like Michigan, Minny, UND, BC, BU, No.DAK etc,.. are head an shoulders above everyone else. in fact, BU, Minny, Michigan and UND will be LUCKY, not fortunate, to be in the dance this yr. Recruting is getting tougher, talent is being groomed and 'systemitized' quicker.. the Haydar's and Nolan's, and Bogi's wouldn't look the same today.
-Consider this, for all the griping that I've read, as well as the praise, this Sr. Class missed out playing with the following K. Yandle(4yrs?), D Kolomitis(3yrs) yrs, R. Bourque,(1yr) JVR(1yr even if it was expected), T. Smith (2yrs). M. White and C. Reid(1yr).. oh, D.Dries(1yr).. tough cards.. and I didn't hear or read any ******ing from them! They laced'em up and gave it their all.. and if given the opportunity to play 1 -4 more games this yr.. I'm sure they'll do the same. I also recall, a skinny, slow- under impressive coaches kid from Malboro(much like. B. Kessel) getting a lot of flack about his 'talent' level when he first came to town.. kid is a Hobey Baker Finalist, and a good one at that. and w/ LeBlanc lead his team, as a Sr. to a RS Championship... Would anyone have guessed that of him coming in??

very good post. i've said all along that unh needs to bring in some kids that want to stay and win it all. team kids rather than kids he11 bent on individual stats. well they did; leblanc, foster, krates and butler deserve a lot of credit for sticking around to the end. kudos to them. hers's hoping they get to the dance and get some redemption.
 
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I ditto everyone else's agreement with l'zonprize......very well said.....I 'm pretty sure that McCloskey enjoys where he is.....the schedule is tough enough for him and his family as it is now.....
 
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UNH had plenty of even man rushes, but were almost always knocked to the corners.
Even man rushes? What that even mean? Who care bout even man rushes. You basic saying dey brought da puck up da ice a few time - bigfdeal.

FOSTER WAS GREAT!! Absolutely great.
Oui, total agree.

there is no quit in these kids
Bull, UVM totally want it more Saturday nites. Et that unacceptable dis time a da year. (Really any time a da year)
 
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Even man rushes? What that even mean? Who care bout even man rushes. You basic saying dey brought da puck up da ice a few time - bigfdeal.

That is the nature of the beast against UVM. They play a style to limit odd man rushes, I have seen them play other teams on the tube, style is always the same very few if any odd man rushes.

The problem UNH had was even when they had a 3 on 2, no forward would fight down the middle of the ice, going to the net and pulling a D with him. It seemed almost every 3 on 2 had all the UNH forwards on the outside that essentially makes it a 2 on 2. The few where guys went to the net the guy the the puck didn't get it on net, held it to long or turned it over. This is a typical UNH thing that drives me up the wall, UNH is good 2 on 1 but 3 on 2 they are just bad.
 
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That is the nature of the beast against UVM. They play a style to limit odd man rushes, I have seen them play other teams on the tube, style is always the same very few if any odd man rushes.
I agree. I juste dont no why he giving dem credite for even man rushes. Hey, dey all manage to get they uniforms on right to, yayyyyy!

The problem UNH had was even when they had a 3 on 2, no forward would fight down the middle of the ice, going to the net and pulling a D with him. It seemed almost every 3 on 2 had all the UNH forwards on the outside that essentially makes it a 2 on 2. The few where guys went to the net the guy the the puck didn't get it on net, held it to long or turned it over. This is a typical UNH thing that drives me up the wall, UNH is good 2 on 1 but 3 on 2 they are just bad.
UNH want to score pretty goal wit shots from top a da circle, not tip in and jammed goals at da crease. Everyting ave to be ilight reel ou nutting wit des guys. Dey used to ave da talente to do eet, mais not no more. Probleme is dey, et Umiles, don't ever ajuste. Ever.
 
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I agree. I juste dont no why he giving dem credite for even man rushes. Hey, dey all manage to get they uniforms on right to, yayyyyy!

I guess your original point went over my head.

UNH want to score pretty goal wit shots from top a da circle, not tip in and jammed goals at da crease. Everyting ave to be ilight reel ou nutting wit des guys. Dey used to ave da talente to do eet, mais not no more. Probleme is dey, et Umiles, don't ever ajuste. Ever.

I agree 100% - this is why UNH has a hardtime in the NCAAs. Team D tightens up fewer odd man rushes fewer pretty goals. In the playoffs many times you need to grind in goals - manufacture them.

Sort of goes to the bouncing puck problem I noted somewhere. UNH is just bad at controlling the bouncing puck. This missing skill makes grinding in goals harder. It is also why they have such a hardtime with BC in a playoff situation. At times BC seems intent at making the puck bounce (definitely while on D, sometime down low on O) around as they know they are good at working with it in these situations. How many times has BC scored on UNH in the playoffs on a puck batted out of the air? (I can think of 4 without trying)
 
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foster, krates and butler deserve a lot of credit for sticking around to the end. kudos to them. hers's hoping they get to the dance and get some redemption.

Yeah but are they really NHL material? I don't think so. They didn't have any other choice but to stick around.
 
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Yeah but are they really NHL material? I don't think so. They didn't have any other choice but to stick around.

Care to make a little side wager on whether Brian Foster will be on a NHL roster sometime in the next 5-6 years? The Florida Panthers drafted him and his standup/positioning style of goaltending should serve him well as he pursues his professional career.
 
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Care to make a little side wager on whether Brian Foster will be on a NHL roster sometime in the next 5-6 years? The Florida Panthers drafted him and his standup/positioning style of goaltending should serve him well as he pursues his professional career.

I could see Butler catching on at some point. If not, I think he'll put up great numbers in the AHL like a lot of past UNH greats have done.
 
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I think it's total garbage you guys might not get in. There's got to be a clause put in that if you are sub 0.500 or something then winning your tourney is moot.

CHA getting two teams in? No way. I'm not sure Bemidji St. should get in frankly.

What if Brown wins the ECAC, do they deserve a berth?

Perhaps the bigger question is with the increased parity in HE and in the country as a whole should the dance be extended to add a few more teams?

There could even be 4 "play in" type games which would put us at 24 teams.

I like that idea a whole lot.

Don't think your program is in decline either, you guys came one extremely hot goalie away from beating BU last year which would have put you in the FF.
 
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I think it's total garbage you guys might not get in. There's got to be a clause put in that if you are sub 0.500 or something then winning your tourney is moot.

CHA getting two teams in? No way. I'm not Bemidji St. should get in frankly.

What if Brown wins the ECAC, do they deserve a berth?

Perhaps the bigger question is with the increased parity in HE and in the country as a whole should the dance be extended to add a more teams?

There could even be 4 "play in" type games which would put us at 24 teams.

I like that idea a whole lot.

Don't think your program is in decline either you guys came one extremely hot goalie away from beating BU last year which would have put you in the FF.

A Jacques worth listening to.
 
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I think it's total garbage you guys might not get in. There's got to be a clause put in that if you are sub 0.500 or something then winning your tourney is moot.

CHA getting two teams in? No way. I'm not Bemidji St. should get in frankly.

What if Brown wins the ECAC, do they deserve a berth?

Perhaps the bigger question is with the increased parity in HE and in the country as a whole should the dance be extended to add a more teams?

There could even be 4 "play in" type games which would put us at 24 teams.

I like that idea a whole lot.
The NCAA dropped the ball a bit with the CHA situation - they should have revoked their autobid when they dropped below 6 teams (I believe that is the NCAA's rule), but they either didn't think BSU would do this well, or they thought BSU would win the tournament. In the first case, it guarantees a CHA team in the tourney, in the second case, it would be moot.

UNH will make it if the numbers bear it out. If they miss, and anyone thinks that's unfair, that's too bad. UNH won ONE game out of conference (not counting Friday's game, which is technically OOC). Now, granted, 3 of their 5 OOC losses were to 2 of the top 3 teams in the PWR (a 4th loss was to a team tied for 8th). They needed just one goal either Saturday or Sunday to control their fate, and they fell short. It's tough, but they made their own bed.

Teams that win their tourneys definitely deserve a berth, regardless of their regular season (though, I will add that I think all conferences with more than a handful of teams should eliminate teams from the playoffs, like HEA does).

Expansion at this point would be terrible. 24 teams would be inching closer to allowing half the country into the tourney (would be about 41%). You think undeserving teams get in now? Plus, the trend seems to be for schools to dump hockey, not add it (it can be an expensive sport), so you could see that percentage bump up even more. And even if there were enough teams to make it feasible, you'd then run into the logistical problem - when do the play-in games happen? Three-day regionals? Separate weekends? I just don't think College Hockey can support that right now.
 
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The NCAA dropped the ball a bit with the CHA situation - they should have revoked their autobid when they dropped below 6 teams (I believe that is the NCAA's rule), but they either didn't think BSU would do this well, or they thought BSU would win the tournament. In the first case, it guarantees a CHA team in the tourney, in the second case, it would be moot.

UNH will make it if the numbers bear it out. If they miss, and anyone thinks that's unfair, that's too bad. UNH won ONE game out of conference (not counting Friday's game, which is technically OOC). Now, granted, 3 of their 5 OOC losses were to 2 of the top 3 teams in the PWR (a 4th loss was to a team tied for 8th). They needed just one goal either Saturday or Sunday to control their fate, and they fell short. It's tough, but they made their own bed.

Teams that win their tourneys definitely deserve a berth, regardless of their regular season (though, I will add that I think all conferences with more than a handful of teams should eliminate teams from the playoffs, like HEA does).

Expansion at this point would be terrible. 24 teams would be inching closer to allowing half the country into the tourney (would be about 41%). You think undeserving teams get in now? Plus, the trend seems to be for schools to dump hockey, not add it (it can be an expensive sport), so you could see that percentage bump up even more. And even if there were enough teams to make it feasible, you'd then run into the logistical problem - when do the play-in games happen? Three-day regionals? Separate weekends? I just don't think College Hockey can support that right now.

All fair points. I guess the tourney chaps DO need to get in b/c otherwise what's thee point?

I'm not expansion would be so terrible though. You make good points but if UNH doesn't get in, granted 17-13 isn't amazing, and Brown & UAH do...that strikes me as just plain silly.
 
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Even man rushes? What that even mean? Who care bout even man rushes. You basic saying dey brought da puck up da ice a few time - bigfdeal.


Oui, total agree.


Bull, UVM totally want it more Saturday nites. Et that unacceptable dis time a da year. (Really any time a da year)

JP.. Wanting it 'more' is different than "quiting". Tough to say they 'quit' when they gave up 1 goal. It happens. And it sucks any time of yr!
 
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Yeah but are they really NHL material? I don't think so. They didn't have any other choice but to stick around.

yeah i understand that but maybe that's a good reason to have some if not a lot of your players who are not quite ready for prime time so they'll stick around for four years. don't get me wrong it's nice to have the JVR's of the world suit up for the old town team but it's hard to replace the experience of seniors. look at anctil for uvm. doesn't get much ice time, probably was passed on by the unh brain trust but yet manages to get the ot goal sending his team to the garden. i'll take team kids over glory hounds any day of the week though.
 
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