UNH Wildcats - '10 Playoff Edition

[tangledupinblue]

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I'm calm now -took a few days. Got it from a good source that Blake is going to stick around. I don't agree that RIT played a trap--UVM played a trap.Saturday was the first time we left a game early in years (one minute to go).Thought my better -half was going to lose it. It's tough to see our Seniors in that situation. The last time we left any UNH game early was in Worcester against Denver (year?).The score was something like 10-2. Sorry BC.GO RIT TIGERS! KEEPONKEEPIN'ON

 

[ClOuD 9]

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Right but don't have the students to fill those seats at the moment. And we made the decision this year to buy our Garden tickets with UNH from now on, so there!

In the past even when we have, such as the bus of students in Amherst, the Hosers weren't interested... Toward the Manchester regionals, "if you build it, they will come", create a standing section in the balcony and students will gravitate from their ticketed seats. The Hosers, Keith B's contingent, and the band combine to equal more than 50+ people, this is a start and is preferable to having the loudest fans spread over a 10k seat arena. Even having voices separated by a single section like we were Friday night lead to difficulties in organization (see "Go! Fight! Win!" twice, inability to hear "winning team/losing team" etc.).

 

[unhpuckfan2001]

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In the past even when we have, such as the bus of students in Amherst, the Hosers weren't interested... Toward the Manchester regionals, "if you build it, they will come", create a standing section in the balcony and students will gravitate from their ticketed seats. The Hosers, Keith B's contingent, and the band combine to equal more than 50+ people, this is a start and is preferable to having the loudest fans spread over a 10k seat arena. Even having voices separated by a single section like we were Friday night lead to difficulties in organization (see "Go! Fight! Win!" twice, inability to hear "winning team/losing team" etc.).

Keith's B contingent . . . yup, that went straight to my head

And I had no voice left, that's why you couldn't hear winning team / losing team

 

[ClOuD 9]

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And I had no voice left, that's why you couldn't hear winning team / losing team

The acoustics in these larger buildings tend to suck, which doesn't help - in spite of being right over our heads all night Friday it was difficult to hear the band at various times. The event organizers need to pay a bit more attention, if it's obvious you're not filling the lower bowl then let the bands move down and create some atmosphere at the events, though this likely would have benefited Cornell more than ourselves given their larger number of fans at the game.

 

[Darius]

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From Concord Monitor: "Butler could play for Ottawa tonight "

http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100331/SPORTS/3310367/1007/sports

 

[boblav1]

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From Concord Monitor: "Butler could play for Ottawa tonight "

http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100331/SPORTS/3310367/1007/sports

The Hobey is down to Butler, Geoffrion & Nyquist.
http://www.uscho.com/news/college-hockey/id,18552/ButlerGeoffrionNyquistForm2010HobeyHatTrick.html

 

[RockTheWhit]

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Huge congrats to Bob on everything he has accomplished and hopefully will continue to accomplish. Hopefully the voters realize he carried UNH and was truly the heart and soul of the team while Geoffrion's team is loaded with talent. Their numbers are comparable and I think the nod will go to Geoffrion as his team was better in the regular season and made the FF.

 

[Darius]

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The Hobey is down to Butler, Geoffrion & Nyquist.
http://www.uscho.com/news/college-hockey/id,18552/ButlerGeoffrionNyquistForm2010HobeyHatTrick.html

I haven't seen much of the remaining competitors, but Butler's all around play and Senior status should help against Nyquist. Watching Wisco on the U this weekend - Geoffrion is a stud. Too lazy to look up his teammate's name, but the Badgers had 2 Colin Wilsons on the ice last weekend.

 

[ClOuD 9]

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That would mean UNH fans would have to be ok with us standing at games not at the Whitt. Never gonna happen. We would also have to have students interested in going to games that aren't at the Whitt.

I know in emptier arenas on the road (Matthews, Tsongas, etc.) the louder fans used to gravitate to empty areas of the arena to do this.

I'm a UNH student and I went to every road game this season, so I do understand the concepts. However, I feel like there are a lot of more casual student fans who might be persuaded by a little bit of marketing. I'm sure most that follow the team knew they were playing in Albany, but not many even thought about making the trip down. If there was a facebook group where people could arrange car pools or even a bus, I think that could go a long way.

Gibber used to run a site like this years ago.

It is disappointing by the lack of student involement come tourney time (both HE and NCAA). But, I think times may have changed. When I went to UNH the Athletic Dept made tickets easily accessible to the students. For the ECAC games at the old Garden, students received a lot of the tickets and there was a major student block at the arena. Now you don't even see a student section at regular season games in Manchester. UNH would be wise to follow the lead of BU who always have an impressive student section at tourney games. They did it right at last years FF.

Hopefully someone peaking in at these boards from the AD will inquire with the other HE schools, given that the students in these sections stand one can presume there is some sort of arrangement between the AD and TD Garden staff (or HE offices). At worst the AD could organize a group sale for tickets in the balcony.

I believe the schools are only given a block of tickets, which would be incredibly difficult to split in that manner.

Set aside the top 4 or 5 rows of tickets from this block for students, if the rest of the block sells out then allow alumni, etc. to buy up the left overs in those rows.

RIT's section consisted not just of students, but of alumni (40-50-60 yr olds) who stood, chanted, cheered, and yelled through out the game.

We are very far removed here, the same people who talk about how loud and exciting "Lively Snively" was on the board (this nostalgia flared up again before Cornell) then go to the game and sit on their hands. Presumably what made Snively loud was that noise was coming not just from the student section, but also the townies on the sides - today cheering is seen as something only the students do. Next season after a goal pan the crowd and see how many STH's participate in the "[x], we want more!" cheer after the goal announcement, the cheer is now nearly extinct - only a few years ago it used to look more like this:
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This may seem like a harsh assessment, but I bring it up in the hopes that they will acknowledge the lack of noise coming from the sidelines and make a conscious effort to applaud good plays, join in a "U-N-H" cheer, etc. I don't think anyone is expecting the entire Whitt to stand for 60 minutes, but lately the STH's even ignore the "stand up!" cheer with under a minute left.

Friends of UNH Hockey used to work together with UNH Sports Marketing and Promotions to operate these fans buses; they sent them to Manchester, Boston, Worcester, Amherst, etc etc. They used to be free. The reason they stopped offering them was cost; the reason they are no longer free is because UNH forced the charter department at Transportation Services to close down. Overnight, the price for a bus trip to Boston went from $250 to nearly $900; Friends / Marketing could no longer afford to pay for the whole bus. For a while, they tried offering it at $10 a head, and eating the difference, but there wasn't enough interest.

For games in Boston (HE tournament, NU, BC, BU) there is train service right next to the Whittemore Center (as well as in Dover and Exeter) that will take you right to North Station - hopefully something that will be mentioned in any attempt to sell students on road tickets.

Now, they struggle to send the Pep Band to games because of the cost. The Pep Band's trip this weekend (just the transportation, not the hotel, etc) was at least $1,500.

Any idea what the ceiling is on NCAA reimbursements for travel costs?

The following are quoted for no other reason than I feel they deserve to be re-iterated:

I for one did not realize this.. for whatever reason it seems as though we/UNH are completely missing the boat now when it comes to the student body travelling during Tourney time and providing that support that players sometimes can pick you up.. I hope that there is a way that Friends of UNH Hockey and that marketing group can generate a plan for the future. Again, I applaud all the fans that do show up for the game. But the Student body experience is missing.

if you truly are passionate about it, you would be there supporting your team, being loud, yelling, cheering and standing to give your team the support they deserve.

 

[WILD E WOLVERINE]

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Hobey Finalists - Geoffrion, Nyquist, and Butler. I think it goes to the Badger, but will soon find out...

 

[zoofer]

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It just occurred to me, that with Bobby Butler and Kelly Paton having made it to be included within the 3 finalist's spots for their respective top honour, and both being Wildcats, what does this say about the arguements made over the last 10 pages of this thread regarding UNH's recruiting woes? It definitely adds more weight to how special these 2 individuals are.....

 

[JB]

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Hobey Finalists - Geoffrion, Nyquist, and Butler. I think it goes to the Badger, but will soon find out...

My understanding is the winner has already been picked. Unless it has changed they pick the winner out of the 10 and announce the top 3 as the hat trick.

However, if I was a voter breaking down these three...

I would first eliminate Nyquist. Fantastic player but not even the player of the year in his own league, and Butler was. If the coaches in hockey east picked Butler as the best player this year how can Nyquist be the best player overall?

That leaves me Butler vs. Geoffrion

Captain - tie
Goals - Butler (29 to 27)
Assists - Butler (24 to 21)
Penalties - Butler (20 min to 56 min)
Made it further in the tournament - Geoffrion
Better team - Butler (as Wisco is clearly more talented so Butler did more with more attention)
Better League - Geoffrion (although each got 1 team to the F4, I think WCHA was better competition this year, hold Geoffrion’s number down)
Grades - No Clue call it a tie (I know Butler has done well no idea on Geoffrion or what the majors are)
PK - Both are out there in tough times - tie
All Around Play - both all around forwards 2-way players - tie
Face-offs - Geoffrion (guy is silly good in the faceoff circle)
Off Ice - Butler (Hockey Humanitarian top 10 finalist)

So with that all I can think of, I would give it to Butler.

Also against Geoffrion was Smith in the top 10. Did Smith take votes away?

Finally I wouldn't hold not getting WCHA POTY against Geoffrion, it doesn't help him but with a goalie getting it, it doesn't hurt him either. IMO. I see it as a killer for Nyquist head to head with Butler.

Butler's off ice finalist for hockey humanitarian is what in my book puts him over the top as everything else is fairly even.

 

[RockTheWhit]

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The Senators sent Zack Smith to Binghamton today, meaning Butler will make his NHL debut Thursday night in Ottawa against Carolina.

 

[UNHhockey29]

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In the past even when we have, such as the bus of students in Amherst, the Hosers weren't interested... Toward the Manchester regionals, "if you build it, they will come", create a standing section in the balcony and students will gravitate from their ticketed seats. The Hosers, Keith B's contingent, and the band combine to equal more than 50+ people, this is a start and is preferable to having the loudest fans spread over a 10k seat arena. Even having voices separated by a single section like we were Friday night lead to difficulties in organization (see "Go! Fight! Win!" twice, inability to hear "winning team/losing team" etc.).

I don't feel I need to compromise my seat. I watch the games where I want to watch them. I yell and I cheer as loud as I can. I do my job as a fan and if that isn't enough for people then too darn bad for them.

 

[ClOuD 9]

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I don't feel I need to compromise my seat. I watch the games where I want to watch them. I yell and I cheer as loud as I can. I do my job as a fan and if that isn't enough for people then too darn bad for them.

Different year, same argument: the atmosphere sucks and we want it to change, but we don't want to do anything about it.

 

[UNHhockey29]

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Different year, same argument: the atmosphere sucks and we want it to change, but we don't want to do anything about it.

You still haven't given me a good reason on why I have to change my seat. Why isn't my cheering my heart out and losing my voice almost every game enough?

 

[ClOuD 9]

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You still haven't given me a good reason on why I have to change my seat. Why isn't my cheering my heart out and losing my voice almost every game enough?

Because a section like RIT had isn't going to magically sprout up around you in the lower bowl in Manchester.

 

[UNHhockey29]

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Because a section like RIT had isn't going to magically sprout up around you in the lower bowl in Manchester.

So it's my job?

 

[ClOuD 9]

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You still haven't given me a good reason on why I have to change my seat. Why isn't my cheering my heart out and losing my voice almost every game enough?

It's also worth pointing out that this is the same seat you've sat in for years during the regular season games at the Verizon (Dartmouth, Maine, BC, BU), it's only a matter of contention come playoffs. When the team needs the vocal support the most (playoffs) there isn't an organized section doing so - the most logical place to begin looking to build such a section would be with the people who lead the same section at home games.

 

[UNHhockey29]

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It's also worth pointing out that this is the same seat you've sat in for years during the regular season games at the Verizon (Dartmouth, Maine, BC, BU), it's only a matter of contention come playoffs. When the team needs the vocal support the most (playoffs) there isn't an organized section doing so - the most logical place to begin looking to build such a section would be with the people who lead the same section at home games.

And those of us who were able to come out sat together cheering. Your point?