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UNH Wildcats - '10 Playoff Edition
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Just read the Pairwise thread
Just read the Pairwise thread
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Several posters said the main issue with the UNH loss to Vermont was a lack of offence and when you don't score for 2 games, that is easy to agree with. However, the bigger question in my mind is the lack of use of the resources available for the team in those 2 losses. Some mentioned that the 4th line was non existent and if you look at the 3rd periods and OT, the 3rd line had very little play. I think the bigger issue was the decision of the coaches to go with only 4 D in the last part of the game. This was especially true in the last game against Vmt. I thought that the Beck/Hardowa pairing was the best D pairing for most of that game and even had some of the best scoring chances (Beck missed an open net and Hardowa hit the crossbar.) they never saw the ice in OT and little in the 3rd period. As a result, the other 4 D were oveworked, burnt out and had little left in the OT. They were not getting to loose pucks, losing 1 on 1 battles and creating giveaways. This is not to be critical of their efforts, but they were giving it their best, but were just tired. The pattern of shortening the bench and going to 4D for the 3rd period or later in the games has been consistent this season and I think, hurts the outcome. JB had questioned whether Hardowa had an upside and one need only look at his last season stats in the AJHL to answer that. He captained the Spruce Grove Saints and quarterbacked their power play. He had 63 points in 61 games and had 20 goals, including 11 PP goals and 8 game winners. He definitely has the talent to contribute offensively to the team success, if given the opportunity. I think that we need to do our homework before we look forward to the next recruits for the savior status and examine how we are using what we now have. I think the biggest issue with our team offence is that our Power Play sucks most of the time.
Several posters said the main issue with the UNH loss to Vermont was a lack of offence and when you don't score for 2 games, that is easy to agree with. However, the bigger question in my mind is the lack of use of the resources available for the team in those 2 losses. Some mentioned that the 4th line was non existent and if you look at the 3rd periods and OT, the 3rd line had very little play. I think the bigger issue was the decision of the coaches to go with only 4 D in the last part of the game. This was especially true in the last game against Vmt. I thought that the Beck/Hardowa pairing was the best D pairing for most of that game and even had some of the best scoring chances (Beck missed an open net and Hardowa hit the crossbar.) they never saw the ice in OT and little in the 3rd period. As a result, the other 4 D were oveworked, burnt out and had little left in the OT. They were not getting to loose pucks, losing 1 on 1 battles and creating giveaways. This is not to be critical of their efforts, but they were giving it their best, but were just tired. The pattern of shortening the bench and going to 4D for the 3rd period or later in the games has been consistent this season and I think, hurts the outcome. JB had questioned whether Hardowa had an upside and one need only look at his last season stats in the AJHL to answer that. He captained the Spruce Grove Saints and quarterbacked their power play. He had 63 points in 61 games and had 20 goals, including 11 PP goals and 8 game winners. He definitely has the talent to contribute offensively to the team success, if given the opportunity. I think that we need to do our homework before we look forward to the next recruits for the savior status and examine how we are using what we now have. I think the biggest issue with our team offence is that our Power Play sucks most of the time.
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well i wasnt banking on that , cornell not losing to union , but anyways , was going off memory from last night .
ferris , mich ,and rit all win
unh can still get in if North dak loses , and wiscon. wins the consolation game
not if Maine and Union win on top of all that
well i wasnt banking on that , cornell not losing to union , but anyways , was going off memory from last night .
ferris , mich ,and rit all win
unh can still get in if North dak loses , and wiscon. wins the consolation game
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Catnip, welcome to this insanity!
Well thought out post. I think though that UNH actually had more jump in OT than Vermont, and they controlled much of the play, had the best of the scoring chances, and were it not for a fluky bounce off of the boards (Kessel made the right play, it just hit a stantion and bounced right to Anctil and ballgame), who knows what happens. I'll be honest, I knew the 4th line didn't get more than 2 or 3 shifts in the game, but I thought the 3rd line was out there equal to the top two, at least through the 3rd period. I didn't notice they only used 4 D though (shows what I know!), and maybe that had an effect on the end result...
Catnip, welcome to this insanity!
Well thought out post. I think though that UNH actually had more jump in OT than Vermont, and they controlled much of the play, had the best of the scoring chances, and were it not for a fluky bounce off of the boards (Kessel made the right play, it just hit a stantion and bounced right to Anctil and ballgame), who knows what happens. I'll be honest, I knew the 4th line didn't get more than 2 or 3 shifts in the game, but I thought the 3rd line was out there equal to the top two, at least through the 3rd period. I didn't notice they only used 4 D though (shows what I know!), and maybe that had an effect on the end result...
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Catnip.. welcome!(wilshawn is accurate!) I like you first post... I don't think the 4th line felt the ice beneath their skates, except for intermission's after their 1rst or second shifts in the 1st.
Re: Hardowa and the recruiting hubbub.. Lots of us liked his stats and his Co-MVP honors coming out of the AJHL as well, what some pointed out was that hardly ever had a 20yr old D man with those honors - ever made a name for themsleves in college.- Personally- I thought the kid was rugged and aggressive and preparred for D1 more so than many Fr. D men that have come through UNH's system. Then - Umile et al.. decided to "reward a more 'controlled' style of play" because of defensive lapses and probabley for the better, because results did follow, however, because of that and Krates return from injury- Hardowa's time dropped like a rock. Although, I'll freely admit 27 games for a Fr. at any position is a good amout - and only trailed Burke and Speelman at 30gms. And +2 was tied for 2nd w/ Kostalansky.
Catnip.. welcome!(wilshawn is accurate!) I like you first post... I don't think the 4th line felt the ice beneath their skates, except for intermission's after their 1rst or second shifts in the 1st.
Re: Hardowa and the recruiting hubbub.. Lots of us liked his stats and his Co-MVP honors coming out of the AJHL as well, what some pointed out was that hardly ever had a 20yr old D man with those honors - ever made a name for themsleves in college.- Personally- I thought the kid was rugged and aggressive and preparred for D1 more so than many Fr. D men that have come through UNH's system. Then - Umile et al.. decided to "reward a more 'controlled' style of play" because of defensive lapses and probabley for the better, because results did follow, however, because of that and Krates return from injury- Hardowa's time dropped like a rock. Although, I'll freely admit 27 games for a Fr. at any position is a good amout - and only trailed Burke and Speelman at 30gms. And +2 was tied for 2nd w/ Kostalansky.
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Exactly. There's no way to win. The game itself is pointless!
Exactly. There's no way to win. The game itself is pointless!
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O got one with RIT, Maine, NMU, and Union winning with UNH the last team out, but I hope I got that wrong
O got one with RIT, Maine, NMU, and Union winning with UNH the last team out, but I hope I got that wrong
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you got that right , weird , for a while we were rooting for Northern Mich , but now we want Mich.
you got that right , weird , for a while we were rooting for Northern Mich , but now we want Mich.
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or BC or Cornell.
and hard to belive how much depends on the RIT-Sacred Heart game, if SC can win that can and some other things happend can get a 3rd seed
or BC or Cornell.
and hard to belive how much depends on the RIT-Sacred Heart game, if SC can win that can and some other things happend can get a 3rd seed
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U sure? I get a three-way tie for 12 w/ Ferris and Maine. ME has auto, Ferris has best RPI, but UNH wins both H2H. Who is left out? 
U sure? I get a three-way tie for 12 w/ Ferris and Maine. ME has auto, Ferris has best RPI, but UNH wins both H2H. Who is left out?
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The committee has broken ties by RPI, not H2H or comparisons.
But nothing says they HAVE to.
U sure? I get a three-way tie for 12 w/ Ferris and Maine. ME has auto, Ferris has best RPI, but UNH wins both H2H. Who is left out?
The committee has broken ties by RPI, not H2H or comparisons.
But nothing says they HAVE to.
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