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UNH Recruits: 2012-2018

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Chuck Murray said:
I really do think it was the Caron saga that finally soured Coach Umile on incoming transfers. I'd heard that many moons ago from a reliable source (the same one who first told me about Umile's "lifetime contract") and it's held up since. Interesting, because there were so many different examples of the kids in Umile's first decade of running the program where he didn't hesitate to bring in kids who had spurned prior commitments or even left their prior programs. I'd forgotten about Heinke (interestingly a 3rd goalie with compromised eligibility) ... so that's roughly a half-dozen kids BC (Before Caron), and zero AC (After Caron).

Then again, two other changes roughly coincided with the Caron saga ... lead assistant/recruiter and AD.

Just saying ...
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Don't forget that back then we had a couple of kids transfer out - Mike Golden to Maine, Rich Burchill to Northeastern.
 
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Greg Ambrose said:
Not only do we have only a handful of forwards who can possess the puck, we have fewer than than that who understand their responsibilities when defending in their own zone. Wandering away from your man, too quick to try and jump on the puck, terrible spacing on breakouts, and this is occurring with players who have 2 or 3 years in the system. A few years ago I was disparaged by some when I called a former UNH captain out for his weaknesses as an assistant coach at another school. At the time I said that he was either recruiting the wrong players or, if the were the right players, he was unable to coach them when they arrived at school. It's the same with UNH today.
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Foley or Souza? Guessing the latter, perhaps due to how things are looking out there this season ...
 
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Greg Ambrose said:
Don't forget that back then we had a couple of kids transfer out - Mike Golden to Maine, Rich Burchill to Northeastern.
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Golden "transferred" out after first semester of 3 Fs and a D (in English). Burchill transferred out after being put on probation his freshman summer for being arrested for criminal mischief during the Houston Sports Festival, and then violating his team probation after reinstatement by peeing in public on Main Street.
 
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wildcatdc said:
My over/under was one week. I gave you too much credit.
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Not sure that's deserved. I outlined three things that roughly coincided with the apparent change of policy - one which I've held up as the most likely, based on some reliable source info ... a second key change within the Men's Hockey program at the same time ... and the one you're focusing on - which while factually accurate timing-wise, is by far the least likely.

Or was the "just saying" thing enough for you to sniff out some nefarious intent ... ?
 
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cavbim said:
Leaman is the first PC coach really willing to recruit in advance. Army seemed very reluctant to project future development and The Pooley era was the infancy of that practice.

The interesting thing is Heinke who was highly recruited probably played about 45% of the games splitting with senior Brad Mullahy. I believe he was not happy with that and most likely other things that added up. Still it must have caught McShane off guard as he had to recruit Bob Bell who due to age limits had only 3 years eligibility.

The other thing is Umilie took a player leaving his classmate's program. Also that Providence put no restrictions on his transfer unlike Bobby Goepfert 10 years later
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Good point about the McShane/Umile connection possibly facilitating the Heinke transfer, cavbim. Thanks.

Ironically ... if Heinke was irked with his playing time at PC, it really didn't change much when he got to UNH, where Trent Cavicchi was gradually able to become the "first among equals" in their two-goalie rotation. But at least he got to play home games in the last season at Snively, and then close out his career spending WAY too much time on buses in '94/'95. Wonder if looking back, Heinke wishes he had a do-over?
 
Chuck Murray said:
Not sure that's deserved. I outlined three things that roughly coincided with the apparent change of policy - one which I've held up as the most likely, based on some reliable source info ... a second key change within the Men's Hockey program at the same time ... and the one you're focusing on - which while factually accurate timing-wise, is by far the least likely.

Or was the "just saying" thing enough for you to sniff out some nefarious intent ... ?
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Whatever, Chuck.
 
HockeyRef said:
If Stewart were out recruiting to replace WF when would this player arrive next season? Anyone see at the 'Whitt where his face came up for another player during intros? Not the first time that's happened...
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Foegel was only a sophomore so he probably wasn't in The money 50% so it'd have to be next year.
 
Snively65 said:
Good point, but there have been lots of other players who got redshirted their first year and did not get poached later. I guess that if a redshirted player develops well his next three years, as Agosta did, remaining disgruntled about the earlier slight should not be surprising.
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Acosta was mutual parting
 
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e.cat said:
Travis (Cowabunga) Banga went to D3 New England College in Henniker, NH not UNE in Biddeford, ME! Your point is well taken though!
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My bad on the UNE vs. NEC. As I why typing, I kept saying to myself "Not Even College", but didnt think that most people would know the acronym, and then I typed UNE. Need more caffeine before typing.
 
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Whalers said:
My bad on the UNE vs. NEC. As I why typing, I kept saying to myself "Not Even College", but didnt think that most people would know the acronym, and then I typed UNE. Need more caffeine before typing.
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When I was at UNH in the early seventies it was widely accepted that NEC was for troubled rich kids who couldn't get into UNH!
 
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NCAA watcher said:
Banga actually demonstrated his talent by progressing pretty well in pro hockey, with several years at the CHL level. http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=56520
I suspect he could have done well at the DI level, but fell into disfavor with the staff because of his overbearing dad. Remember that Umile was doing Borek a solid by steering Banga to Borek's DIII team.
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Fixed your post!
 
e.cat said:
When I was at UNH in the early seventies it was widely accepted that NEC was for troubled rich kids who couldn't get into UNH!
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I had a step-uncle who started for the basketball team in the 80's. He said that the school was known for its own version of "white mountains", imported by the wealthy, in that era.
 
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wildcatdc said:
I had a step-uncle who started for the basketball team in the 80's. He said that the school was known for its own version of "white mountains", imported by the wealthy, in that era.
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Holy Scarface!;)
 
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NCAA watcher said:
really? Banga was from Western Canada, and so his dad would have very little access. Are you thinking of Cordeiro? Or Dziedzuzicky?
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You are right. Im thinking of Ryan Cordeiro! My apologies to you and Whalers. Carry on!
 
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