Greg Ambrose
Registered User
Re: UNH Recruits: 2012-2018
Chuck, the missteps of the athletic department are a direct result of the missteps of the University System as a whole. New Hampshire has ranked last nationally in state support for higher education for years, behind even Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas and the rest. It's been that way since I arrived in Durham in 1970, 45 years ago (how's my math?). I am not a great believer that the success of a university's athletic teams significantly impacts donations to the school, but I do know that when UNH Hockey ascended in the late 90's and early aughts, Coach Umile in particular and the team in general was a welcome sight when they visited Concord. Not sure how it is with the football team, but I generally agree with you that UNH Athletics has missed opportunities to promote a warm and fuzzy feeling for the school throughout the state.
On the hockey side I just look at it practically. Over the years other Hockey East schools have come into the state and recruited multiple players who have gone on to become significant players someplace else. Freddy Meyer is only the most notable example. More than a few times I have had conversations with fans, long time season ticket holders, who openly deride the coaching staff's recruiting priorities. They will watch a game where some mid-talent from the midwest is outclassed by a kid who grew up down the road. The question always is "why are we wasting our time flying all over the country to get a kid like (name withheld) when this other kid is right here in New Hampshire?" I've asked the question to Umile, Lassonde and McCloskey myself. The response was always something along the lines of UNH1932 - "we tried, but didn't succeed." When is that answer going to begin to be unacceptable?
Math issues aside, Greg is right on the money, and this is what drives me absolutely nuts about UNH admin generally, and BS35+3 in particular. UNH had a generations-long head start on cornering the NH hockey market from both a promotional and talent standpoint, and frankly they have not only failed to capitalize on it, but they have squandered it to frickin' minor league hockey. And now that the quality of the minor league product over in ManchVegas has dropped from prospect level (AHL) to goon level (ECHL) hockey, UNH still hasn't done anything to reach out and recapture some of the market they basically gave away - and mind you, they gave it away when the program was at its apex in the early part of the Noughties (sp?).
Maybe things will change on the ice when Souza (or whomever) takes over someday. But until there is a sea change in thinking at the top levels of the department and at the University, what should already be the well-established "flagship" sports program in the state will continue to fly under the radar in far too many areas of the state, and will be underpublicized even in the areas surrounding Durham. I can't tell you how many local families and their children consider themselves HUGE hockey fans, and that means they go see the B's one (1) time per season down in Boston. They're shocked when I ask them if they've ever considered the UNH Hockey product, as may seem to think it's pseudo-HS level hockey. And the powers that be in Durham wonder why attendance is down at the Whitt when the program has gradually alienated SO many long term fans, while totally ignoring the opportunity to recruit new fans from the younger generations.
If it wasn't so GD pathetic, it would be sad. Even with UNH Football, they're almost a decade past the Ricky Santos years already, and it's only now that the stadium is being brought up to something acceptable for their level.
And with UNH Hoops even expected to do well this season, why isn't there talk about moving some of their games over to the Whitt like they did in the mid-'90's when it opened? Oh yeah, UNH doesn't publicize them either.
Must be nice to have an AD's job with such a paucity of expectations. Keep up the mediocre work, BS35+3.
Chuck, the missteps of the athletic department are a direct result of the missteps of the University System as a whole. New Hampshire has ranked last nationally in state support for higher education for years, behind even Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas and the rest. It's been that way since I arrived in Durham in 1970, 45 years ago (how's my math?). I am not a great believer that the success of a university's athletic teams significantly impacts donations to the school, but I do know that when UNH Hockey ascended in the late 90's and early aughts, Coach Umile in particular and the team in general was a welcome sight when they visited Concord. Not sure how it is with the football team, but I generally agree with you that UNH Athletics has missed opportunities to promote a warm and fuzzy feeling for the school throughout the state.
On the hockey side I just look at it practically. Over the years other Hockey East schools have come into the state and recruited multiple players who have gone on to become significant players someplace else. Freddy Meyer is only the most notable example. More than a few times I have had conversations with fans, long time season ticket holders, who openly deride the coaching staff's recruiting priorities. They will watch a game where some mid-talent from the midwest is outclassed by a kid who grew up down the road. The question always is "why are we wasting our time flying all over the country to get a kid like (name withheld) when this other kid is right here in New Hampshire?" I've asked the question to Umile, Lassonde and McCloskey myself. The response was always something along the lines of UNH1932 - "we tried, but didn't succeed." When is that answer going to begin to be unacceptable?