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UNH Recruits: 2012-2018

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Nick Papagiorgio said:
Not trying to burst the bubble... but...

"Interested in" can mean a lot of things. You see it in football all the time. A kid gets a letter from Alabama that they send to half a million football players in the US and all of a sudden the kid has "interest" from Alabama (and usually ends up at Stonybrook or Umass).
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Don't you have enough to worry about with BC football? Good luck with The Fighting Irish. When my father played football for Notre Dame BC couldn't beat their JV team!
 
Greg Ambrose said:
The fact that you are referencing the last ten years says to me that I just read the Scott Borek version of history. I have no idea who you are but, if what you say is true, then the lack of results ten years and beyond is a black mark on the entire coaching staff going back to the early 70's. I will remind you that the greatest player UNH ever had from the state was Frank Roy (Berlin), and he graduated in 1979, 46 freakin' years ago. It has always bothered me that UNH Hockey has not done a great job in branding the program throughout the state. My wife is from North Conway originally and I can tell you that, up there, the UNH name was never a factor when she was growing up. I have a good friend who lives in southwestern NH, near Keene. Out there UNH might as well be in a foreign country. As for border towns, more focused on Boston than ole State U. The Seacoast, Concord and Manchester, that's it. Contrast that to Maine Hockey which, when Walshie was coach, made the effort to brand the program across the state, despite the fact that it was remote from most of the population centers of the state. UNH could do way more in this regard. My guess is we will have to wait until Souza takes over to find out if things change.
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Math is not a strong suit at UNH, I see. Better tell my husband he's suddenly 10 years older and that his degree in math from UNH isn't well represented here :D
 
e.cat said:
Don't you have enough to worry about with BC football? Good luck with The Fighting Irish. When my father played football for Notre Dame BC couldn't beat their JV team!
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Thank you, e.cat. I was confused with a BC guy taking a shot at SB or UMass, what with their 0-7 ACC record and big OOC wins against Maine, NIU and Howard.
 
e.cat said:
Don't you have enough to worry about with BC football? Good luck with The Fighting Irish. When my father played football for Notre Dame BC couldn't beat their JV team!
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Seriously....UNH fans can't for even a week feel good about a recruit without having to justify etc...harrumph. Whatever!
 
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e.cat said:
Don't you have enough to worry about with BC football? Good luck with The Fighting Irish. When my father played football for Notre Dame BC couldn't beat their JV team!
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Congrats to your dad. If Brian Kelly asks to put him up on a scissor lift, make sure he says no (and volunteer hockeyref for the job)
 
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See, this is the kind of chit that belongs on the "Those Were The Days...BC vs UNH" thread. :p ;) :D
 
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HockeyRef said:
Seriously....UNH fans can't for even a week feel good about a recruit without having to justify etc...harrumph. Whatever!
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I know. The jealously is palpable;) It's the only explanation for their trolling!
 
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bostonewe said:
Math is not a strong suit at UNH, I see. Better tell my husband he's suddenly 10 years older and that his degree in math from UNH isn't well represented here :D
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Past decade feels like 20 years, hence Greg's 46 freaking years seems about right.
 
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wildcatdc said:
Thank you, e.cat. I was confused with a BC guy taking a shot at SB or UMass, what with their 0-7 ACC record and big OOC wins against Maine, NIU and Howard.
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See, I'm confused here. Did they beat Moe, Curly or Shemp??? :confused: :p
 
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Greg Ambrose said:
The fact that you are referencing the last ten years says to me that I just read the Scott Borek version of history. I have no idea who you are but, if what you say is true, then the lack of results ten years and beyond is a black mark on the entire coaching staff going back to the early 70's. I will remind you that the greatest player UNH ever had from the state was Frank Roy (Berlin), and he graduated in 1979, 46 freakin' years ago. It has always bothered me that UNH Hockey has not done a great job in branding the program throughout the state. My wife is from North Conway originally and I can tell you that, up there, the UNH name was never a factor when she was growing up. I have a good friend who lives in southwestern NH, near Keene. Out there UNH might as well be in a foreign country. As for border towns, more focused on Boston than ole State U. The Seacoast, Concord and Manchester, that's it. Contrast that to Maine Hockey which, when Walshie was coach, made the effort to brand the program across the state, despite the fact that it was remote from most of the population centers of the state. UNH could do way more in this regard. My guess is we will have to wait until Souza takes over to find out if things change.
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Math issues aside, Greg is right on the money, and this is what drives me absolutely nuts about UNH admin generally, and BS35+3 in particular. UNH had a generations-long head start on cornering the NH hockey market from both a promotional and talent standpoint, and frankly they have not only failed to capitalize on it, but they have squandered it to frickin' minor league hockey. And now that the quality of the minor league product over in ManchVegas has dropped from prospect level (AHL) to goon level (ECHL) hockey, UNH still hasn't done anything to reach out and recapture some of the market they basically gave away - and mind you, they gave it away when the program was at its apex in the early part of the Noughties (sp?).

Maybe things will change on the ice when Souza (or whomever) takes over someday. But until there is a sea change in thinking at the top levels of the department and at the University, what should already be the well-established "flagship" sports program in the state will continue to fly under the radar in far too many areas of the state, and will be underpublicized even in the areas surrounding Durham. I can't tell you how many local families and their children consider themselves HUGE hockey fans, and that means they go see the B's one (1) time per season down in Boston. They're shocked when I ask them if they've ever considered the UNH Hockey product, as may seem to think it's pseudo-HS level hockey. And the powers that be in Durham wonder why attendance is down at the Whitt when the program has gradually alienated SO many long term fans, while totally ignoring the opportunity to recruit new fans from the younger generations.

If it wasn't so GD pathetic, it would be sad. Even with UNH Football, they're almost a decade past the Ricky Santos years already, and it's only now that the stadium is being brought up to something acceptable for their level.

And with UNH Hoops even expected to do well this season, why isn't there talk about moving some of their games over to the Whitt like they did in the mid-'90's when it opened? Oh yeah, UNH doesn't publicize them either.

Must be nice to have an AD's job with such a paucity of expectations. Keep up the mediocre work, BS35+3.
 
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bostonewe said:
Math is not a strong suit at UNH, I see. Better tell my husband he's suddenly 10 years older and that his degree in math from UNH isn't well represented here :D
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Yeah, I saw that after it was too late to edit. Must have hit the wrong key. But you get my drift I hope?
 
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I have no issue with UNHs recruitment of in state kids. They have a decent amount in Robinson, Thompson, desmith, etc. I have no expectation that these kids should go to UNH, particularly if they have options of better hockey programs or schools. BC, BU, Harvard.

What does annoy me is when we lose "local" kids to comparable programs, where the distinguishing feature is a perception of where each program is headed. Losing NH kid Spencer Young and northshore kid Ben Mirageas to Prov, when it would be far easier for their families to come to the Whit is far more troubling than not getting a NH kid.

It is like losing NH kid Jeff Serowik to an aggressive Providence assistant who convinced him playing for an old past his prime UNH coach would not be good.
 
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