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UNH Hockey: Where Do We Go From Here....

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Nick Papagiorgio said:
Chuck, given you're not happy with the state of officiating in the league and your own coaching situation up in Durham, wouldn't the easy solution be to hire Brian Pouliot to just beat up the officials? I hear he is available. :D
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:D

I guess I find it ironic that after a generation's worth of ragging on BU, and how Jack Parker supposedly had all the refs in his back pocket … it turns out that it's their rivals from The Heights that have been using the ranks of the HEA on-ice officials as some kind of job placement slash patronage racket for underemployed alums or bored high-ranking administrators from the corner office.

I mean, seriously … what if UNH President Jim Dean or his right-hand man were working a side hustle as an on-ice hockey official, and turned up officiating games at BC or BU or UMaine or UVM, and no one bothered to disclose that, hey, the guy in stripes down there just happens to be running the show (or second in command in the President's office) in Durham? Right to know?? :eek:

It's pretty much what happens every time Shea takes to the ice to officiate a HEA game, even if he does skip the BC games. Is the league that desperate for on-ice officials? If Shea is really "into it" and enjoys doing it, can't he ask for ECAC assignments instead?

Throw in Hughes, Kelleher, and who knows who else, and I think it's fair to ask questions, don't you?

:confused:
 
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Good time to shoutout my dentist, Brian Shea. Brother of Kevin. Have talked to him about his brother before but now I will need to ask for more stories.
 
Chuck Murray said:
Fantastic story … I may have been at that game as well, IIRC UNH laid the wood to BC on that night, York's second year post-Cedorchuk, and Reasoner's frosh season. It was also a losing season for UNH, but one that laid the foundations for the run that would follow over the next 7 seasons. Snives, I'm sure you were correct about the BC goalie being Greg Taylor, who also was the BC goalie in the March '94 finale in double OT when Bogie closed the place down in double OT. BTW that '94 playoff game marked "Count" Cedorchuk's final game in charge at BC. Taylor was a pretty decent goalie, but played behind some terrible BC teams.

Good times, too bad that York guy came along and ruined all the fun ...
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And, two years later both teams were in the FF at the Garden. I sold my finals ticket at face to a BC fan after UNH got eliminated by the Wolverines in the semi's.
 
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This Pouliot thing is a mess. Just saw the fight on Fox and Friends. Thank goodness they didn't make any reference or connection to UNH.
 
Nick Papagiorgio said:
Chuck, given you're not happy with the state of officiating in the league and your own coaching situation up in Durham, wouldn't the easy solution be to hire Brian Pouliot to just beat up the officials? I hear he is available. :D
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I'd have pushed to retire his number to the rafters had he done this to Hache during his UNH days 😂😂
 
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ClOuD 9 said:
I'd have pushed to retire his number to the rafters had he done this to Hache during his UNH days ����
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Old pal Hache has proven the Peter Principle applies again, as he's now the OHL's Director of Officiating - a job he's apparently pretty much held since he left HEA over a decade ago:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/conrad-hache-00abb7162/?originalSubdomain=ca

Those who can, do. Those who can't … :rolleyes:
 
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Have Bunyon and Benedetto officially been put out to pasture? Grav is still around. At one point the Hockey East site had a list of officials including their full time jobs. Probably not smart. Looks like that page/info no longer exists.
 
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I remember the night he got hit in the head with a puck! Not ever good but it did seemed to have a little poetic justice running down it. I feel that was his last year in HE. He was such a horrible ref, I'm still shaking my head thinking about him.
 
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J.D. said:
Have Bunyon and Benedetto officially been put out to pasture? Grav is still around. At one point the Hockey East site had a list of officials including their full time jobs. Probably not smart. Looks like that page/info no longer exists.
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Bunyon took a promotion at Westford Academy, where he went from being a PE teacher to their AD.

https://westford.wickedlocal.com/sports/20180821/bunyon-becomes-westford-ad

Doesn't say that he no longer officiates games, but until recently, I wasn't perusing that closely. :)

FWIW there were several links towards the end of my Effingwoods Hockey Almanac that went dead within 24 hours of my posting them, so I'm sure the folks further up the food chain have taken notice, and taken steps to remove outdated content that shows certain folks in less-than-optimal light. I have no axe to grind with any of these guys, but transparency would be nice. :)
 
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Chuck Murray said:
If Shea is really "into it" and enjoys doing it, can't he ask for ECAC assignments instead?
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Well, not that it has anything to do with your point, but each league probably has its own commissioner who assigns the refs. I know it was that way when I reffed basketball. So he would have to establish ECAC "connections." :)
 
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Chuck Murray said:
Bunyon took a promotion at Westford Academy, where he went from being a PE teacher to their AD.

https://westford.wickedlocal.com/sports/20180821/bunyon-becomes-westford-ad

Doesn't say that he no longer officiates games, but until recently, I wasn't perusing that closely. :)

FWIW there were several links towards the end of my Effingwoods Hockey Almanac that went dead within 24 hours of my posting them, so I'm sure the folks further up the food chain have taken notice, and taken steps to remove outdated content that shows certain folks in less-than-optimal light. I have no axe to grind with any of these guys, but transparency would be nice. :)
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Try running the URLs through archive.org to pull up a saved copy.
 
ClOuD 9 said:
Try running the URLs through archive.org to pull up a saved copy.
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If there is no tournament then does the streak continue next year if we make the tournament? Paranoia wreaking havoc on all these tournaments. Feel bad for the seniors who can’t finish the season. Think the NCAA offers another year?
 
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norbert said:
If there is no tournament then does the streak continue next year if we make the tournament? Paranoia wreaking havoc on all these tournaments. Feel bad for the seniors who can’t finish the season. Think the NCAA offers another year?
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I want to feel badly for them, too … except this is basically the world they've grown up in, where all you ever hear is "safety first" and you're not allowed to live your life freely, ever. Most of them won't even notice what they've missed. This is par for their course. They've been conditioned for this.

To think, 80 years ago, the British people were asked to live their normal lives during the day, and see shelter in the subways at night while the Germans rained down bombings on their homes and places of work. On our side of the Atlantic, we were told the "only thing we have to fear, is fear itself".

Now, the advice we're getting is about "social distancing". :rolleyes: How downright inspirational.

We've just gotten so, so soft over the last few generations ...
 
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For the last person leaving NCAA headquarters tonight, please don't forget to shut off the lights.

Happy refunding!! :p :p
 
Chuck Murray said:
I want to feel badly for them, too … except this is basically the world they've grown up in, where all you ever hear is "safety first" and you're not allowed to live your life freely, ever. Most of them won't even notice what they've missed. This is par for their course. They've been conditioned for this.

To think, 80 years ago, the British people were asked to live their normal lives during the day, and see shelter in the subways at night while the Germans rained down bombings on their homes and places of work. On our side of the Atlantic, we were told the "only thing we have to fear, is fear itself".

Now, the advice we're getting is about "social distancing". :rolleyes: How downright inspirational.

We've just gotten so, so soft over the last few generations ...
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I am normally with you. Not this time. This is a math problem. We don't have the medical bandwidth necessary based on the exponential growth seen in China and Italy. Italy has more doctors and hospital beds per person than we do and they are now making decisions who gets the ventilator and maybe lives vs who just dies because they are out...

However as the math plays out our medical services have a chance if we can just slow this down a little. With a virus like this that does mean "social distancing". Merkel is probably correct by the time this is over 70% of us will probably have it, a smaller percent will have it enough to be tested, a smaller percent still will fill our hospitals beyond capacity and some will spend 10-12 days on a ventilator and maybe still die.

Unless you think it is better to cull the herd of the old and unfortunate that get a bad case... I wouldn't want to make the choice between two people asphyxiating who gets the chance to live and who dies... Would you?

My reaction here isn't emotional, it is a math problem, plus the sobering unfortunate experience working fatal car accidents.
 
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As a side note. After the first month of the Blitz the Germans bombed at night. So the British Government had people in the subway at night when it was dangerous and go out during the day when it wasn't.

Sounds like the Biltz equivalent of social distancing... Big groups together leads to lots of transmission so don't get in big groups where it is dangerous.
 
JB said:
I am normally with you. Not this time. This is a math problem. We don't have the medical bandwidth necessary based on the exponential growth seen in China and Italy. Italy has more doctors and hospital beds per person than we do and they are now making decisions who gets the ventilator and maybe lives vs who just dies because they are out...

However as the math plays out our medical services have a chance if we can just slow this down a little. With a virus like this that does mean "social distancing". Merkel is probably correct by the time this is over 70% of us will probably have it, a smaller percent will have it enough to be tested, a smaller percent still will fill our hospitals beyond capacity and some will spend 10-12 days on a ventilator and maybe still die.

Unless you think it is better to cull the herd of the old and unfortunate that get a bad case... I wouldn't want to make the choice between two people asphyxiating who gets the chance to live and who dies... Would you?

My reaction here isn't emotional, it is a math problem, plus the sobering unfortunate experience working fatal car accidents.
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Excellent post...
 
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Chuck Murray said:
I want to feel badly for them, too … except this is basically the world they've grown up in, where all you ever hear is "safety first" and you're not allowed to live your life freely, ever. Most of them won't even notice what they've missed. This is par for their course. They've been conditioned for this.

To think, 80 years ago, the British people were asked to live their normal lives during the day, and see shelter in the subways at night while the Germans rained down bombings on their homes and places of work. On our side of the Atlantic, we were told the "only thing we have to fear, is fear itself".

Now, the advice we're getting is about "social distancing". :rolleyes: How downright inspirational.

We've just gotten so, so soft over the last few generations ...
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I never suspected you and I could be on the same page Chuck, but you are spot on. We are indeed becoming a nation of sheep.
 
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