UNHHockey16
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I don’t think she has the money! $240,000 to buy him out when the school is talking budget cuts. Maybe we should have thought about that before we gave him an extension.
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UNH 2024/2025 Goldberg Edition
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Chuck Murray
WIS & Effingwoods Hockey Almanac
I'm not sure if we've ever gotten clarification on whether MS7 signed a 3 year extension OR a series of three 1 year extensions. If it's the latter, moving on from MS7 could be easier than any of us might have imagined.
Poor coaching just oozed from last night's loss. Watching the post-game interview with Coach Brown, you could almost see him laughing at the bullet his guys had just collectively dodged, and at the largesse of the hosts to let them back into a game they seemed barely invested in.
The GWG was beyond pathetic ... and that it was the second time in the last few weeks a basic goalie mishandle cost UNH a game against a top ranked team, does the staff work with Whale on his puck-handling in PRACTICE?!?!? Oh wait ... is there even a goalie coach this year???
Worse than that ... your guys break a scoreless tie, and get a late PP in the second period ... not saying your goal is to go out and kill your own PP ... but don't you think you respect your opponent, play it situationally smart, and make sure you've got two guys back?!?!?!?!?!?
BC was there for the taking ... and MS7 decided, "we'll pass - thanks for the offer!". Ridiculous, but par for the course, I'm afraid. When you can't even take advantage of teams who are undermotivated and largely going through the motions ... you are in a world of hurt.
And lookie who's next up on the schedule ... Scotty B, waltzing in here to provide the kill shot. And then UMaine and BC again (twice apiece) to clean up what's left of the carcass of UNH Hockey 2024/2025.
Mad at myself for once again falling for the mirage of the dawn of a brand new day in Titletown.
Bigger hockey fish to fry elsewhere anyway, so at least I've got that going for me, which is nice ...
Chuck Murray
WIS & Effingwoods Hockey Almanac
Nice article on the extended Ftorek hockey family in today's Union Leader
BCeagle
Registered User
Well Chuck the long drive home wasn't so bad after BC went through the motions and eked it out. On any given night anything can happen if you're not ready. As good as BC looks on paper, they still manage to lose to MC, NU and UConn, games they should have won.
With luck UNH could have won this one. There's still 6-7 games left and the HE Tournament.
With luck UNH could have won this one. There's still 6-7 games left and the HE Tournament.
UNHHockey16
Member
It is a 3 year contract, not three 1 year contracts. I have the contract personally. Buyout for the contract is 1 years salary which is currently $240,000 unless he gets fired for cause.I'm not sure if we've ever gotten clarification on whether MS7 signed a 3 year extension OR a series of three 1 year extensions. If it's the latter, moving on from MS7 could be easier than any of us might have imagined.
Poor coaching just oozed from last night's loss. Watching the post-game interview with Coach Brown, you could almost see him laughing at the bullet his guys had just collectively dodged, and at the largesse of the hosts to let them back into a game they seemed barely invested in.
The GWG was beyond pathetic ... and that it was the second time in the last few weeks a basic goalie mishandle cost UNH a game against a top ranked team, does the staff work with Whale on his puck-handling in PRACTICE?!?!? Oh wait ... is there even a goalie coach this year???
Worse than that ... your guys break a scoreless tie, and get a late PP in the second period ... not saying your goal is to go out and kill your own PP ... but don't you think you respect your opponent, play it situationally smart, and make sure you've got two guys back?!?!?!?!?!?
BC was there for the taking ... and MS7 decided, "we'll pass - thanks for the offer!". Ridiculous, but par for the course, I'm afraid. When you can't even take advantage of teams who are undermotivated and largely going through the motions ... you are in a world of hurt.
And lookie who's next up on the schedule ... Scotty B, waltzing in here to provide the kill shot. And then UMaine and BC again (twice apiece) to clean up what's left of the carcass of UNH Hockey 2024/2025.
Mad at myself for once again falling for the mirage of the dawn of a brand new day in Titletown.
Bigger hockey fish to fry elsewhere anyway, so at least I've got that going for me, which is nice ...
Sparkee
Blackbear
Who would sign 3 one year extensions? Is this even a thing? Sounds like buyers remorse combined with wishful thinking.I'm not sure if we've ever gotten clarification on whether MS7 signed a 3 year extension OR a series of three 1 year extensions. If it's the latter, moving on from MS7 could be easier than any of us might have imagined.
Poor coaching just oozed from last night's loss. Watching the post-game interview with Coach Brown, you could almost see him laughing at the bullet his guys had just collectively dodged, and at the largesse of the hosts to let them back into a game they seemed barely invested in.
The GWG was beyond pathetic ... and that it was the second time in the last few weeks a basic goalie mishandle cost UNH a game against a top ranked team, does the staff work with Whale on his puck-handling in PRACTICE?!?!? Oh wait ... is there even a goalie coach this year???
Worse than that ... your guys break a scoreless tie, and get a late PP in the second period ... not saying your goal is to go out and kill your own PP ... but don't you think you respect your opponent, play it situationally smart, and make sure you've got two guys back?!?!?!?!?!?
BC was there for the taking ... and MS7 decided, "we'll pass - thanks for the offer!". Ridiculous, but par for the course, I'm afraid. When you can't even take advantage of teams who are undermotivated and largely going through the motions ... you are in a world of hurt.
And lookie who's next up on the schedule ... Scotty B, waltzing in here to provide the kill shot. And then UMaine and BC again (twice apiece) to clean up what's left of the carcass of UNH Hockey 2024/2025.
Mad at myself for once again falling for the mirage of the dawn of a brand new day in Titletown.
Bigger hockey fish to fry elsewhere anyway, so at least I've got that going for me, which is nice ...
You were so confident UNH was going to prance into Orono last year for the hockey East quarterfinal and beat Maine. Though cautious, you were in favor of the extension after the 20 win season.
You made your bed, now lie in it… spooning Souza.
Four More Years! Four More Years!
Sparkee
Blackbear
There is a goalie coach: https://unhwildcats.com/sports/mens-ice-hockey/roster/coaches/sean-maguire/2142
Also, Jim Tortorella was a goalie for Maine. Not sure if he still gets out on the ice in his current role. He’s been coaching hockey at different levels since 1984. 40 years of coaching. He’s likely getting ready for retirement with this role at UNH.
Also, Jim Tortorella was a goalie for Maine. Not sure if he still gets out on the ice in his current role. He’s been coaching hockey at different levels since 1984. 40 years of coaching. He’s likely getting ready for retirement with this role at UNH.
UNHHockey16
Member
Chuck may have wanted him but I can tell you a lot of UNH fans didn’t. Also 3 year contract signed before this season, seasons almost over which means 2 years left. I know math is hard but that’s what you get for going to UMaine.
Crazy4UNHhockey
Member
Fire Souza
Darius
Go 'cats!
I think he’s suggesting an additional four year extension for a total of six more years. UMO fan.
Darius
Go 'cats!
This could get much worse for the U:
“The federal government was the largest source of funding, sending $157 million to UNH, led by NOAA ($28.3 million), NASA ($25.6 million), the Department of Energy ($25.4 million), the National Science Foundation ($20.6 million) and the National Institutes of Health ($11 million).”
https://www.unh.edu/unhtoday/2024/10/external-funding-unh-research-leaps-252-million
https://www.unh.edu/research/resource/2025-federal-administration-transition-guidance
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Basement Bias
Member
Probably this season & next season will be duds & then last year of the contract we will see vast improvement. However the stance should be it's titles (HE & above ) or no extension at all.
UNHHockey16
Member
Short of maybe winning it all there’s really nothing that would make me consider an extension a good idea. Hockey East title or not.
Chuck Murray
WIS & Effingwoods Hockey Almanac
Actually, no ... I was NEVER in favor of the extension. Some folks on here were resigned to the apparent fact he would be extended, but I wasn't one of them, as I was writing about buyout options for the last two years (still am). I think pretty much everyone was against it, once we learned it was for three years. IF there was a deal to be struck, my tolerance was for a short one year "show me" extension as a Plan B.
As far as "being sure about beating UMaine in Orono" LOL ... your reading comprehension skills are weak, skippy. What I did - which I've done many times in almost 30 years of being on the various iterations of the USCHO boards - was to write a take on why things could (should?) go in a certain direction. There WAS a case to be made that, with competent coaching, UNH could have snuck up on UMaine and won a game that was MUCH more important for UNH's postseason future than it was for UMaine's, which was basically already going to make the NCAA's. Turns out, the "sneaking up" part probably died when UNH won the two OT games against UMaine a month earlier. AND of course, MS7's lack of real postseason experience was exposed. Can't say I was surprised, but you seem to have taken it super personally.
I've been the biggest Ben Barr fan on this board since before the day UMaine hired him. I was on his bandwagon before at least half of the UMaine-iacs, ferchrissakes. Still am, actually. So think about it, skippy ... why would I discount him OR his team's abilities? In favor of a guy whose next big "postseason" win will be his first?!?!? LOL
You must be one of those dudes who watches the weekly wrasslin' shows and thinks it's all legit and on the level ...
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Sparkee
Blackbear
You resemble Bobby Heenan actually.Actually, no ... I was NEVER in favor of the extension. Some folks on here were resigned to the apparent fact he would be extended, but I wasn't one of them, as I was writing about buyout options for the last two years (still am). I think pretty much everyone was against it, once we learned it was for three years. IF there was a deal to be struck, my tolerance was for a short one year "show me" extension as a Plan B.
As far as "being sure about beating UMaine in Orono" LOL ... your reading comprehension skills are weak, skippy. What I did - which I've done many times in almost 30 years of being on the various iterations of the USCHO boards - was to write a take on why things could (should?) go in a certain direction. There WAS a case to be made that, with competent coaching, UNH could have snuck up on UMaine and won a game that was MUCH more important for UNH's postseason future than it was for UMaine's, which was basically already going to make the NCAA's. Turns out, the "sneaking up" part probably died when UNH won the two OT games against UMaine a month earlier. AND of course, MS7's lack of real postseason experience was exposed. Can't say I was surprised, but you seem to have taken it super personally.
I've been the biggest Ben Barr fan on this board since before the day UMaine hired him. I was on his bandwagon before at least half of the UMaine-iacs, ferchrissakes. Still am, actually. So think about it, skippy ... why would I discount him OR his team's abilities? In favor of a guy whose next big "postseason" win will be his first?!?!? LOL
You must be one of those dudes who watches the weekly wrasslin' shows and thinks it's all legit and on the level ...
Chuck Murray
WIS & Effingwoods Hockey Almanac
You may be surprised to hear this from me Darius ... but this is precisely the kind of real-world partnerships UNH has been engaging in that makes the case for the viability, usefulness and importance of the U in our community. Now, if you were gonna tell me that UNH was a major beneficiary of the foolishness that's being doled out for Woke causes by USAID (or perhaps in news to come from the DoE?), THEN I would be super concerned about huge cutbacks. But since UNH has actual valuable results they can point to in all the areas you've cited, and hasn't harmed its institutional credibility with an all-in on the climate foolishness (which I think they've mostly avoided), then UNH is among the good guys, at least in my mind. There is always gonna be a streak of liberalism in academia, I get that, but UNH isn't quite over their skiis on that. As a parent of two UNH grads, I'm grateful both received legitimate career-based educations for the money we paid.
The fact they hosted 45-47 at The Whitt a little over a year ago definitely solidifies them in good standing with me.
It's just the Hockey bit that's annoying me (a lot) these days. And IMO it's one guy who really trampled on that ... and no, it's not the current coach, or his iconic predecessor ... I think y'all know who I'm talking about ...
Chuck Murray
WIS & Effingwoods Hockey Almanac
Actually, besides the fact "The Brain" is no longer among the living, I'll take that as a compliment.
I just knew you were one of them wrasslin' dudes
Basement Bias
Member
Wanted to say national title but we've never done it, so it's hard to be that critical. However I share the sentiment that it's time for a change.
deltabravo62
Active member
So you get the lifeline of an offsides review after a terrible shift in your own end and you follow that up with another gong show leading to a goal against...
This team plays awful with a lead…