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UNH 2024/2025 Goldberg Edition
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No, we plan to hang a banner.
I heard that Gordie Clark (1952 birth year) was not there in person but shown on the big screen (aka, Jumbotron, I was for before I was against).
My friends who attended last night for the first time in years thought that the Cats played great and wondered what all the fussing was about.
i, too, had high expectations after our tied for 5th place HEA regular season finish last year. Previous nine finishes beginning with 2014/15 season were 8th, 10th, 10th (12 teams), followed by 11th (dead last), 8th, 9th, 10th, 9th, 10th (11 teams). A last place HEA regular season finish this year is unacceptable.
HockeyRef
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At this point, UNH isn't in the position to worry much about where they land in HE...ask Providence in 2015. But of course we have to win the games we can, steal one or two (yes Norbert,
it just might be possible..just sayin'). Starting with Friday at BU, but UNH will have to bring their best game times two as I'm sure the last thing the Terriers want is to
lose 3 straight heading into the Beanpot...
Agree with Dan that blowing Friday night's game was big, and will probably / could come back to haunt them. A couple of thoughts up for debate over this weekend...
*Cy LeClerc had a decent weekend. Not just for scoring a goal but his game just seemed the best it's been in awhile as he has been recovering from
whatever the issue was in the pre/early season
*Rob Cronin..what a sr. year he's having...without checking I'm assuming he's prob the 2nd leading scorer on the team?
*Connor Lovette...that goal he scored was amazing. Say what you want about the lack of scoring for guys like him (Sweeney for ex) that line always
brings it and they stood out to me last night especially. Esp in recent games, they've outplayed the top line...
*Speaking of the top line, interesting how MS7 mixed it up last night. I'm not always one to pay attention to mixes of players that much and
wonder what those of you who do thought / think of that. I mean, something had to change...
*Turner...geeze. Stay out of the box kid!
*MacPhearson, Connor. I like that kids game. He's a bigger bodied player than I thought. Not sure how he will develop but it's great
to see he's gotten play time and should be in the line up regularly. Yeah, like all the rest of the games...
*Conmy...just being Conmy. Sometimes I want him to be the play, not make the play (make sense) and when he IS the play, he's fantastic. Nice
retribution goal last night after being beat up the night before...
HockeyRef
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Yes Gordie was featured on the 'tron as well as other past UNH notables; some dating back to the early 60's which was cool to see. I had great chats with my fav players
who were there from my 'early time' as a fan; Kevin G, Rich Boyd (both of which are now police officers), Collin MacD, Matt Dawson (who has become a fire fighter. Charlie K, Jason Salvaggio, Eric
MacAdams and others from that bunch were also there. Not to mention DU and his gang from the 70's Would have liked to have gone to the alumni
game but grandson was visiting for the day. Overall they had a great turn out of hockey alums!
I did send a note about how cool it would have been to have made that into a season tix thing; norbert had a great idea about having a reception
of sorts afterwards for season tix holders. I'm not sure what else UNH did for the alumni (it was alumni weekend for all I believe?) but that
would be a nice way to chat up former players. I do remember attending something upstairs last season before the game (think we were
playing BC).
And your friends were right...UNH played very well.
Chuck Murray
WIS & Effingwoods Hockey Almanac
Thanks for sharing Linda (p.s. please post more often!).
Will there be lots of Holt/Kullen/Umile Era nuggets in the series (asking in sincere hope of YES)???
Chuck Murray
WIS & Effingwoods Hockey Almanac
... or maybe Coach Shawhan is a guy who doesn't tolerate talented sulkers who do not give their all to his program? And actually knows how to develop his guys into better players, and earns his players' respect every day that way??
Joe Shawhan - Head Coach - Men's Ice Hockey Coaches - Michigan Tech
Earlier I was thinking that perhaps an explanation for our regression in HEA standing this season was not making up the goals lost from Blaisdell (11) and Sardarian (7j, which were a big part of our 106 total goals last season (2.95 GPG over 36 games). But this season the Cats have 69 goals in 23 games for 3.00 GPG. Of course, 10 pf those games were against OOC cupcakes.
So, then I took a closer look at goaltending, which I did not realize has seen a larger drop off than our goal scoring.
Hellsten, 15-12-1, 2.04 GAA, 0.909 Sv% in 2023/24 season
Whale, 11-9-3, 2.34 GAA, 0.899 Sv%, with the latter placing him in a tie for 61st in Div 1, only ahead of the primary goalies for BU and UVM. His GAA is 33rd in Div 1 this season.
So, then I took a closer look at goaltending, which I did not realize has seen a larger drop off than our goal scoring.
Hellsten, 15-12-1, 2.04 GAA, 0.909 Sv% in 2023/24 season
Whale, 11-9-3, 2.34 GAA, 0.899 Sv%, with the latter placing him in a tie for 61st in Div 1, only ahead of the primary goalies for BU and UVM. His GAA is 33rd in Div 1 this season.
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Or Sardarian just proved what is wrong with today's younger crowd. Hey, I have a D1 scholarship, but things aren't going the way I think they should, so I think I'll just quit and transfer. Sometimes, as a D1 athlete, maybe, just maybe, you should be held accountable for some of the things you do and not always blame coaching. You should be there to make yourself and your team better. By age 20'ish, you know what that takes, go do it. On another note, I also agree with the post a couple pages back, it's awful to see the fans not even caring by the end of the game. I've been going for 37 years now and not one time have I left that arena early or not stood and applauded after a game. Sometimes I didn't want to, but you hope in some small way you help the kids, instead of leaving them to dwell in what was already a difficult loss.
walrus
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Thanks for sharing Linda (p.s. please post more often!).
Will there be lots of Holt/Kullen/Umile Era nuggets in the series (asking in sincere hope of YES)???
A story about Mike Golden?
HockeyRef
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Today's UL story about the weekend pointed out during the 5 goal losing streak we had been outscored 17-8...and that scoring was the big push for the weekend. Also mixing up the lines will be interesting to see how that continues to play out..
The story also discussed Ronan Walsh and mentioned
his presence on the ice. He's a big bodied forward and could be in more games...could do without
major penalties but I like his style so far. Comments
about him?
So scoring 7 goals is an improvement (and was the 5th time the 'Cats had scored 5 goals in a game). But ya gotta do that in ALL of these games coming up
and given the competition that will be a task..
Welp we knew the loss of Hellsten might be huge but I still think da Whale has done better than expected? That said we all know that a top tier goalie like a Jake Fowler is a big plus (duh). Gotta check in CHC's blog about who's
coming in next season but I'm not gonna criticize JW.
And of course maybe the axiom 'it's hard to beat a team 3 times' will ring true for the 'Cats this weekend? A girl can dream...
ps agree we are missing goals by HB and Sardo. Cronin tho has had a decent Sr season reminiscent of HB's 5th year.
Chuck Murray
WIS & Effingwoods Hockey Almanac
The option to transfer is hardly a new development in the D-1 hockey world, although perhaps the pain that used to be associated with moving from one D-1 program to another has been lessened. But, just to play this all out ... let's assume you are correct, and Sardarian quit at UNH 'cuz he was a spoiled brat, and moved on to Tech, where he found another receptive ear ... and now he's off to a really good start there ... so when does the spoiled self-centered brat re-emerge, throw another tantrum, and find himself with his bags packed (again) for either St. Pete (Russia) or Rochester (NY), or maybe the ECHL on an independent deal, if the Sabres have lost interest in an unfocused selfish malcontent??
I'm not sure why you're seemingly dismissive of crediting SS' new coach at Tech, who seems to have tapped into the kid in a way that MS7 at UNH certainly could have used (10G/20A/30P and +7 in 26 games). Definitely seems like something has happened, in a positive way, and the change of program/coaching would seem to be at (or near?) the top of that list. And MS7 doesn't exactly have a long list of players who made it to the two top NA pro leagues ... two, to be exact, Angus Crookshank (NHL cup of coffee) and Will MacKinnon (AHL).
We'll wait & see what's behind Door Number Three in Sardarian's future ... but as of right now, it reflects poorly on MS7 ...
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For one, I said I'm happy he is doing well where he is. I hope the kid makes it. There isn't a single kid that comes in to play in the NCAA that has some high potential, that I ever want to see fail. That goes for kids at any school, transfer or not, whatever the case is. I'm also not dismissive of the new coach, I just watched the kid deteriorate on the ice and coaching or not, he has to bear some of that, but nowadays the kids aren't held accountable as they once were. UNH saw something in him or they wouldn't have recruited him in the first place. Transfer has always been an option but the year sitting in the stands watching your team play was a turn off, that rule no longer exists. That is more than just a "perhaps," it's a different world. The college sports landscape has pretty much spiraled out of control at this point anyways.
Speaking of recent UNH player losses to the portal, who remembers the saga of Ed Caron, our brainy (PEA grad), 6’2”, 230 lb left wing, second round and 54th overall NHL draft pick of the Edmonton Oilers, who left for Yale after his first year on a loaded 2001-2002 UNH team that went to the St Paul FF. Ed had a decent year mostly on the third line but supposedly found the academic challenge of UNH courses lacking. Back then transfers had to red shirt for a year, which Ed did at Yale for the 2002-2003 season, missing the Cats return to the Buffalo FF. But by the end of that year, Ed apparently had a change of mind and returned to our good old State U for a mediocre 2003-2004 season, before turning pro the following year, as he had enough credits to graduate early. However, his pro career amounted to only one year in the ECHL. I may be leaving out some key details and insights, but I do not remember a lot of transfers out of UNH in those days, although there were a few others.
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Ed Caron had so much potential, I remember those days well!
Jellsville USA
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The Eddie Caron I remember spent a lot of time in the penalty box!!
theprofromdover
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I miss Bobo!
Chuck Murray
WIS & Effingwoods Hockey Almanac
Thanks for introducing ol' "Leadfoot" into the discussion, Snives (and BTW you are correct, not many transfers out of UNH back in the day). If we're gonna compare Sardarian to Caron in terms of UNH-related drama, Caron still wins that one in a walk. Plus, Caron grew up in the state, and went to school even closer at PEA, so his adjustments to life in NH would seem to have been a small fraction of what Sardarian has had to deal with, coming from halfway across the globe with likely ESL hurdles. And if UNH is gonna play the global recruiting game in a meaningful manner, they really should have some local infrastructure in place to support kids' lives away from the arena. Like most everything else MS7 has done while in charge, it strikes me as something he really hasn't thought through. And so now a 3rd round NHL pick from Russia who gave UNH first dibs has left, and is reaching his potential elsewhere. Nothing to see here, right folks??
I'd forgotten that Caron was a second round NHL pick (EDM) ... the story I've heard (beyond the girlfriend at Yale, losing out on a full season, and never recapturing the magic) is that Caron just didn't like hockey all that much, and you kind of see that in his post-UNH career, which was short and unimpressive. 54 games in the Coast, and only 23 penalty minutes for a kid of his size and strength just oozes that "I'm not really into this anymore" vibe. Sad from a hockey perspective, but hopefully he figured out the rest of his life, and is happy doing what he's doing.
For a like-kind comparison back in the day ... BC had a recruit named Adam Pinneault during the Caron Era who was also a second round NHL pick (CBJ) and he pretty much ditched BC after one mediocre frosh season, eventually playing 10 more seasons in Major Junior and the pros, and did get to Columbus for a 3 game Poturalski-like NHL career. So he wasn't lacking in motivation - hardly - he's just one of hundreds of high picks who never quite fulfilled their potentials.
Sardarian is a 3rd round pick (BUF) by an organization that is not short of talent at the forward positions, so he's hardly guaranteed an NHL career by any means. But there seems to be a lot of upside, and if there is immaturity and cultural adjustments to be dealt with and overcome, he at least seems to be motivated at a level far beyond that of "Leadfoot".
I'd be remiss not to point out that our legendary ol' pal Bobo seems to have his own stalker ...
I'd forgotten that Caron was a second round NHL pick (EDM) ... the story I've heard (beyond the girlfriend at Yale, losing out on a full season, and never recapturing the magic) is that Caron just didn't like hockey all that much, and you kind of see that in his post-UNH career, which was short and unimpressive. 54 games in the Coast, and only 23 penalty minutes for a kid of his size and strength just oozes that "I'm not really into this anymore" vibe. Sad from a hockey perspective, but hopefully he figured out the rest of his life, and is happy doing what he's doing.
For a like-kind comparison back in the day ... BC had a recruit named Adam Pinneault during the Caron Era who was also a second round NHL pick (CBJ) and he pretty much ditched BC after one mediocre frosh season, eventually playing 10 more seasons in Major Junior and the pros, and did get to Columbus for a 3 game Poturalski-like NHL career. So he wasn't lacking in motivation - hardly - he's just one of hundreds of high picks who never quite fulfilled their potentials.
Sardarian is a 3rd round pick (BUF) by an organization that is not short of talent at the forward positions, so he's hardly guaranteed an NHL career by any means. But there seems to be a lot of upside, and if there is immaturity and cultural adjustments to be dealt with and overcome, he at least seems to be motivated at a level far beyond that of "Leadfoot".
I'd be remiss not to point out that our legendary ol' pal Bobo seems to have his own stalker ...
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