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UNH 2024/2025 Goldberg Edition

Going to miss the 3rd in the air but based on what I’ve seen so far this might be worse than yesterday.

Two undisciplined penalties to cancel out power plays, one by Gags. His other penalty also undisciplined.

PP is I’m not even sure. Pass along the wall with the point. Zero movement or quality shots


Being swept this weekend is unacceptable. The path to 20 has to be nearly impossible, 500 might be unattainable
 
For the love of God! GAGNE!!! 2 games in a row with game misconducts for the 'Cats 3 penalties for the Captain...Beyond disgusted.

The wheels have come off this bus...and I'm not talking about the Ice bus!!
 
Going to miss the 3rd in the air but based on what I’ve seen so far this might be worse than yesterday.

Two undisciplined penalties to cancel out power plays, one by Gags. His other penalty also undisciplined.

PP is I’m not even sure. Pass along the wall with the point. Zero movement or quality shots


Being swept this weekend is unacceptable. The path to 20 has to be nearly impossible, 500 might be unattainable

C is for cross check apparently. Terrible weekend for 28 especially game 2 with 3 penalties including being shown the door.
 
Welp made it interesting at the end (but what was that PP?!?) Long ride home for the 'Cats. MS7did not look happy after the handshake. Fun fact: second game this season for game misconduct for Gagne. Shades of another former Captain whom will remain nameless...

Bright spots worth mentioning FWIW dept: Rob Cronin nets 2 this weekend...and we didnt get scored on in either 5 mim penalties.

Annnddd here come the Terriers!!
 
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Horrible weekend. Eating my words. Guess the old timers are right. This “new fan” (by a dinosaur’s standards) still believes in better days ahead. You would think such a high stakes HEA game would propel the boys to show up one of the two nights, or at the very least in their own barn - but apparently not so.

Bummer. Optimism has been cut in half.
 
With the UMass-NU split this weekend, we remain in the HEA basement and are now 4 points behind them. I suppose it is entirely possible that we remain in the HEA basement for the remainder of the season, which probably will not get us the Garden or Manchvegas. “Yeah, but we have ‘games in hand’!” My answer: “What good are games in hand if you cannot win some of them, or even get a tie?”

On a positive note, we won at the dot tonight, 43 to 20.
 
Horrible weekend. Eating my words. Guess the old timers are right. This “new fan” (by a dinosaur’s standards) still believes in better days ahead. You would think such a high stakes HEA game would propel the boys to show up one of the two nights, or at the very least in their own barn - but apparently not so.

Bummer. Optimism has been cut in half.

There isn’t any better days until this contract ends and we move on from MS7. AD Rich gave up the purse strings to two coaches who timed last year and have regressed to normal.
 
Horrible weekend. Eating my words. Guess the old timers are right. This “new fan” (by a dinosaur’s standards) still believes in better days ahead. You would think such a high stakes HEA game would propel the boys to show up one of the two nights, or at the very least in their own barn - but apparently not so.

Bummer. Optimism has been cut in half.

Sigh...we have gone round and round with this same thing every year. I feel for the team..the players...who probably feel pretty crappy right now. I hope they can learn from this and put their skates on and move forward.

I mean what else is there to do?
 
Went to the game last night and thought the star of the show was UConn's new arena. Built in 2023, it is smallish (2600 capacity) but it's nice and open so you can see the ice surface from pretty much anywhere in the building, steep seating so you feel close to the ice. VIP (picnic-style) seating with food behind one of the goals and some luxury boxes on one side. The band was active and behind the other goal. I don't think kids are back yet from break so hard to figure the student section. Bonus for closet Whalers fans: they play Brass Bonanza after UConn goals.

The UNH product on the ice was less impressive. I was a regular attendee during the salad days of the 90s and 00s but this was my 2nd game in the last two years (went to the West Point game last season) and they were both hard to watch.
 
Went to the game last night and thought the star of the show was UConn's new arena. Built in 2023, it is smallish (2600 capacity) but it's nice and open so you can see the ice surface from pretty much anywhere in the building, steep seating so you feel close to the ice. VIP (picnic-style) seating with food behind one of the goals and some luxury boxes on one side. The band was active and behind the other goal. I don't think kids are back yet from break so hard to figure the student section. Bonus for closet Whalers fans: they play Brass Bonanza after UConn goals.

The UNH product on the ice was less impressive. I was a regular attendee during the salad days of the 90s and 00s but this was my 2nd game in the last two years (went to the West Point game last season) and they were both hard to watch.

Thanks for this report on Toscano (spelling?) Arena, as I have only seen our games with Yukon in Hartford.

Yes, must have been hard to watch if you have not been witnessing the steady decline into the HEA lower echelon over the past couple of decades. For many of us, I think that watching the gradual collapse of the team has been akin to the proverbial frog in the pot as the water slowly begins to boil. We cannot jump out of the pot screaming because we are hooked on watching, no matter how nightmarish the picture.
 
Welp made it interesting at the end (but what was that PP?!?) Long ride home for the 'Cats. MS7 did not look happy after the handshake.

Looking at it from MS7's standpoint ... I'd be pretty PO'ed with my own guys, coming up small in something at least approaching "big" games. And after going out on a limb and pronouncing his Captain as "the best defensive defenseman in Hockey East", he got a clown show performance from a guy who is your purported team leader. It was WAY too familiar a (non) performance that us old-timers have too often seen from UNH.

Season is FAR from over, but the path to the goals some of us (myself included) were predicting just got SO much harder. It IS an opportunity for MS7 to practice the boys hard, and perhaps have some private discussions with team "leaders" (sorry to use the quotation marks this time) about what true leadership looks like ... IF MS7 even knows himself? Next weekend offers a great bounceback opportunity where little will be expected of UNH from outside their own room. Maybe it will be BU's turn to mail in a bad weekend of overconfidence??

I also wonder if MS7's sourpuss appearance after Luce's handshake had anything to do with challenging the 2 minute call against his Captain? Challenging a similar call against Fitzy the night before was arguably different, as (1) it wasn't his Captain, and (2) it was disallowed. Going to the well a second time, with #28 in his crosshairs, maybe MS7 took that personally? I'm not here to debate "right or wrong" - Luce's job is to help his own guys win, and his challenge against Gagne was confirmed, so by the book he made the right decision. But this is a guy who has been a two year Captain, someone he's vouched for publicly, and at the heart of MS7's turnaround (however that turns out) ... and the guy you go golfing with (along with UConn hoops legend Geno Auriemma; sp?) in the offseason, decides to kneecap your guy in a very public way, I'm not sure that this coming summer's golf outing won't be a little frostier, unless MS7 gets a chance for payback between now and then?

Speaking of unhappy looks ... I mentioned to HR during Friday night's game that in between the 2nd and 3rd periods, I was passed by a very unhappy looking UNH Director of Hockey Ops, who seemed to be en route from the press area to the room downstairs. I didn't follow him to see where he eventually went - nature was calling, so I had other priorities! - but I can't imagine he was happy with the on-ice performances. I'm not sure if his (new) position is as a subordinate, equal or superior to that of the Head Hockey Coach, but one would think MS7's future will be in part decided this time around with some feedback from JT. Food for thought.

Random observation ... I haven't been to the Toscano Family Ice Hut yet, but listening to "Brass Bonanza" booming out after home team goals is a nice throwback to the long-departed Whalers. Shame it had to be played one more time yesterday than UNH scored their own goals. It's possible I could even begin to like UConn in the future ... contingent upon the removal of one element in particular in their nascent program ...

... which finally brings me back to address (to the extent I can or will) the speculation of what lies beneath my contempt for the beady-eyed little weasel known far and beyond as Luce ... and yes, as Snives has pointed out, a good slice of it has to do with his self-pronouncements of (stolen) greatness as an assistant to Coach York, which have continued to trickle out (albeit way less frequently than before) from time to time, but now that his self-promotion has failed to land him his desired return to The Heights, maybe that will quiet down entirely? But more than that, there were/are a lot of unflattering things that go beyond being a York wannabe that have come to my attention from various credible sources over a LONG period of time, which serve as the crux of my ... uhh, profound lack of admiration for Luce. Multiple verified source stuff, some fairly innocuous "everyone does it" stuff from the recruiting trails, and other more serious things, all of which were disclosed to me on condition of anonymity, privacy, etc. And there is no statute of limitations (to me anyway) on keeping those promises. Some (not all) of it had to do with the aftermath of an infamous, grisly in-game HEA incident that now goes back almost 22 years ago. I'll just leave it at that ...
 
With the UMass-NU split this weekend, we remain in the HEA basement and are now 4 points behind them. I suppose it is entirely possible that we remain in the HEA basement for the remainder of the season, which probably will not get us the Garden or Manchvegas. “Yeah, but we have ‘games in hand’!” My answer: “What good are games in hand if you cannot win some of them, or even get a tie?”

On a positive note, we won at the dot tonight, 43 to 20.

Not sure if you watched the game yesterday but the Yukon announcers said MS7 felt their Friday night game was 'the best game they've played analytically' or something like that. No idea what
he was talking about (no, really, I don't know what he means by that). Does he mean UNH bested them on stats like face offs, SOG's? We lost both games because of time in the box and those 2 shorties didn't help the cause.. but hey, at least we scored on a few PP's. Oh and we just didn't play well so there's that.

Somehow, we are still 13th in PWR...
 
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Looking at it from MS7's standpoint ... I'd be pretty PO'ed with my own guys, coming up small in something at least approaching "big" games. And after going out on a limb and pronouncing his Captain as "the best defensive defenseman in Hockey East", he got a clown show performance from a guy who is your purported team leader. It was WAY too familiar a (non) performance that us old-timers have too often seen from UNH.

Season is FAR from over, but the path to the goals some of us (myself included) were predicting just got SO much harder. It IS an opportunity for MS7 to practice the boys hard, and perhaps Inthave some private discussions with team "leaders" (sorry to use the quotation marks this time) about what true leadership looks like ... IF MS7 even knows himself? Next weekend offers a great bounceback opportunity where little will be expected of UNH from outside their own room. Maybe it will be BU's turn to mail in a bad weekend of overconfidence??

I also wonder if MS7's sourpuss appearance after Luce's handshake had anything to do with challenging the 2 minute call against his Captain? Challenging a similar call against Fitzy the night before was arguably different, as (1) it wasn't his Captain, and (2) it was disallowed. Going to the well a second time, with #28 in his crosshairs, maybe MS7 took that personally? I'm not here to debate "right or wrong" - Luce's job is to help his own guys win, and his challenge against Gagne was confirmed, so by the book he made the right decision. But this is a guy who has been a two year Captain, someone he's vouched for publicly, and at the heart of MS7's turnaround (however that turns out) ... and the guy you go golfing with (along with UConn hoops legend Geno Auriemma; sp?) in the offseason, decides to kneecap your guy in a very public way, I'm not sure that this coming summer's golf outing won't be a little frostier, unless MS7 gets a chance for payback between now and then?

Speaking of unhappy looks ... I mentioned to HR during Friday night's game that in between the 2nd and 3rd periods, I was passed by a very unhappy looking UNH Director of Hockey Ops, who seemed to be en route from the press area to the room downstairs. I didn't follow him to see where he eventually went - nature was calling, so I had other priorities! - but I can't imagine he was happy with the on-ice performances. I'm not sure if his (new) position is as a subordinate, equal or superior to that of the Head Hockey Coach, but one would think MS7's future will be in part decided this time around with some feedback from JT. Food for thought.

Random observation ... I haven't been to the Toscano Family Ice Hut yet, but listening to "Brass Bonanza" booming out after home team goals is a nice throwback to the long-departed Whalers. Shame it had to be played one more time yesterday than UNH scored their own goals. It's possible I could even begin to like UConn in the future ... contingent upon the removal of one element in particular in their nascent program ...

... which finally brings me back to address (to the extent I can or will) the speculation of what lies beneath my contempt for the beady-eyed little weasel known far and beyond as Luce ... and yes, as Snives has pointed out, a good slice of it has to do with his self-pronouncements of (stolen) greatness as an assistant to Coach York, which have continued to trickle out (albeit way less frequently than before) from time to time, but now that his self-promotion has failed to land him his desired return to The Heights, maybe that will quiet down entirely? But more than that, there were/are a lot of unflattering things that go beyond being a York wannabe that have come to my attention from various credible sources over a LONG period of time, which serve as the crux of my ... uhh, profound lack of admiration for Luce. Multiple verified source stuff, some fairly innocuous "everyone does it" stuff from the recruiting trails, and other more serious things, all of which were disclosed to me on condition of anonymity, privacy, etc. And there is no statute of limitations (to me anyway) on keeping those promises. Some (not all) of it had to do with the aftermath of an infamous, grisly in-game HEA incident that now goes back almost 22 years ago. I'll just leave it at that ...

Interesting observations here about the relationship between Luce/MS7...it was duly noted that the pair did indeed play golf with the infamous Gino. A friend of mine used to coach
Yale women's bball and we have chatted alot about him...but that's another tale. Both seem to have alot (?) of mutual respect for one another, at least, the announcers made
that point. haha not so sure after Saturday's game but a coach has to do what a coach has to do (asking for the challenge against Gagne's penalty). I listened to Luce's comments
after the game and he was pretty happy about the sweep and it sure did boost his standings in PWR. Have to give him alot of credit; he went for it in a big physical way and
was rewarded by our sloppiness. Managed to shut down our main threat (Conmy) and apparently shorties are their thing having scored 7 (2 on us...ugh) this season.

Yes, the saga between UNH/Yukon hockey remains a dicey one. I was really hoping for a split (expected one). For me if the 'Cats come to play and they lose it's mostly ok.
I hope he does practice them hard and lets the leadership know that under no circumstances can they afford to be so reckless. What happens this Friday will be telling...you
never know.
 
Not sure if you watched the game yesterday but the Yukon announcers said MS7 felt their Friday night game was 'the best game they've played analytically' or something like that. No idea what
he was talking about (no, really, I don't know what he means by that). Does he mean UNH bested them on stats like face offs, SOG's? We lost both games because of time in the box and those 2 shorties didn't help the cause.. but hey, at least we scored on a few PP's. Oh and we just didn't play well so there's that.

Somehow, we are still 13th in PWR...

Originally the Friday game was to be on NESN, then it was not, so I did not see either game this weekend.

I think that MS7’s use of the term “analytically” must have been in reference to UNH FOW’s, which were 32 to 18 on Friday night, which seems like an “anal” remark to me when your team loses 4-1 at home against a team that you had to sweep to match last year’s record. Wonder if MS7 made the same “analytically” statement again after going an even better 43-20 in FOW’s yesterday, which as you know from some of my posts on past threads I think are important, but not as important as WINNING!

I have no expectation for UNH earning any points against the Terriors this coming weekend, with likely the only points the remainder of the season coming from possible sweeps of UMass-Flagship, UVM, and the single game against Mac, so ending the season with 15 wins max, which would be a positive and not surprisingly better than an average season with MS7 at the helm.

As for the PWR, we had dropped to 15th last evening, then climbed back up to 13th after some upset losses in the West. The PWR remains a mystery to me. Maybe MS7 has found a way to manipulate the PWR algorithms?
 
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Originally the Friday game was to be on NESN, then it was not, so I did not see either game this weekend.

I think that MS7’s use of the term “analytically” must have been in reference to UNH FOW’s, which were 32 to 18 on Friday night, which seems like an “anal” remark to me when your team loses 4-1 at home against a team that you had to sweep to match last year’s record. Wonder if MS7 made the same “analytically” statement again after going an even better 43-20 in FOW’s yesterday, which as you know from some of my posts on past threads I think are important, but not as important as WINNING!

I have no expectation for UNH earning any points against the Terriors this coming weekend, with likely the only points the remainder of the season coming from possible sweeps of UMass-Flagship, UVM, and the single game against Mac, so ending the season with 15 wins max, which would be a positive and not surprisingly better than an average season with MS7 at the helm.

As for the PWR, we had dropped to 15th last evening, then climbed back up to 13th after some upset losses in the West. The PWR remains a mystery to me. Maybe MS7 has found a way to manipulate the PWR algorithms?

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