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UNH 2020 Off-Season Thread: That Rinky-Shrinky Thang And Other Lively Banter :D

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The problem for UNH start and almost ends with even strength. Ignoring the horrendous PK, some even strength stats. UNH 34 in 21 games, or 1.5 even strength goals per game
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[TD]42[/TD]
[TD]35[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 2"]19[/TD]
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[TD]29[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"]+13[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: white"]Providence[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"]19[/TD]
[TD]38[/TD]
[TD]37[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"]+1[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: white"]Northeastern[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"]17[/TD]
[TD]37[/TD]
[TD]37[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 2"]21[/TD]
[TD]34[/TD]
[TD]53[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: white"]Boston University[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"]11[/TD]
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[TD]19[/TD]
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[TD]26[/TD]
[TD]43[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 2"]12[/TD]
[TD]19[/TD]
[TD]37[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"]-18[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 2"]10[/TD]
[TD]9[/TD]
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On an individual basis,
http://www.hockeyeastonline.com/stat...ring&sort=plus

Try that link for even strength goals in HE. Pierson leads UNH, and is 19th in HE with 16, and Crookshank/Will McKinnon are second for UNH, but they rank only 29th in HE.

Keep in mind that UNH has played the most games, with 21, and therefore has had multiple more minutes of even strength play than other HE teams. BU has only at 11 games, Vermont 10, Maine 12, Lowell 11, Northeastern 16.

On a per game rate, the UNH guys would be pushed down by another half dozen or more.

What that shows is Grasso tied with Herrmann for being on the ice during even strength UNH goals at 7. For a first line RW playing lots of minutes, being on the ice for 7 even strength goals in 21 games when getting lots of TOI kind of shows why UNH is low scoring. By comparison, Cafarelli, for all of his flaws, has been on for 5 even strength goals in only 14 games.
For Erikssson, you can see he has 13 points on the PP, but only 10 goals scored even strength when on the ice. That suggests his offensive skill are not really translating in even strength (or, is it that he moves the puck well, but gets it to forwards who can't beat anyone and generate offense?) That is essentially my Tyler Ward argument, which is that he clearly from the eye test generates offense, but has only generated 8 goals while on the ice. Because I like him and it fits my eye test, I would say its the players he plays with that depress the goals for plus.
 
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Approaching 100-point milestone, fifth-year senior looks back at UNH career"
https://www.fosters.com/story/sports...st/6779712002/

Everything and everyone is in disarray this season because of a contagious coronavirus... "I think everyone kind of puts a negative spin on what’s happened this year but I like to think of it as at least we get to play. We could have been shut down and not been able to play at all.”

Souza made similar comments in Adam Wodon's story last week.

I think they could use a week off.
 
Souza made similar comments in Adam Wodon's story last week.

I think they could use a week off.

So the players seem ambivalent at times about playing, citing the general distractions beyond the rink, and then they back into a less-than-inspiring "at least we get to play" mantra. Coincidentally (not), their coach is on the record saying similar enabling things. Shocking.

I'll bet anyone dollars to donuts that Coach York and Coach Carvel aren't saying dopey, low-threshold stuff like that. I bet they talk to their players about commitment, work, opportunities, focus and perseverance. Things that winners talk about.

I hate to go there, but this time I'm compelled to share my personal experience (at an admittedly lower level) of coaching a group of HS age players through a pandemic, almost a year to the date when things started last year/season. We generally start right after the Fall NHIAA season wraps up, and literally go for the better part of 9 months until the NHIAA pre-season arrives again in August. There are short breaks built in here and there, but it's a pretty steady commitment, and kids will mostly go through the whole thing, but some do jump in and out if they have other commitments. We figure out ways to make it work for everyone. There are no crazy drop-dead ultimatums, must do this, can't do that, etc. It's evolved over the last 15+ years, and it sells itself. We do virtually no "recruiting" (Coach Umile would be proud) beyond word of mouth. We do it at cost plus minor expenses, I make no money, and I do it for fun. I answer to my constituency (players/families).

At this time last year, the kids were enjoying a great offseason (anything not on an outdoor pitch is considered "offseason") and after a slow start had hit their stride, and hadn't lost a game in over 3 months. Kids were excited about going back out for the Spring and Summer seasons, and our tourney schedule. That all came crashing down quickly when in the space of a few days, the offseason and Spring season were cancelled. Access to facilities and fields was virtually nil. We kept tourney play alive as a possibility for another month or so, but inevitably, despite everyone's best efforts, that fell by the wayside too.

Things finally did open up in time to save the Summer season though, and the kids were excited to see each other again in the team setting after over 3 months apart. Missing out on a lot of special competitive moments we were looking forward to in the Spring - it was/is a group that's been together for years, mixed ages, not at all unlike a HS or college roster age range - there was some hurt and disappointment with the returning players that I probably underestimated. As a coach in my situation, with a rolling cast of players who come in, and others who age out or leave every season, I have to remind myself that things past teams may have accomplished, may not have been experienced by your newest players, so you never want to become jaded with the idea of "I've done this before, no big deal" ... when it is absolutely a BIG deal to your current kids.

So I undersold the Summer season with a lot of the "we're just lucky to be playing" commentary to our players that we hear now from the UNH camp. Was there some truth to that? Of course there was. But did the players - who were happy to be back to a semblance of their former normal lives - need to hear that, and just keep reminding them of the lost opportunities from the Spring season and tourneys they would never get back? Probably not. Our Summer league play was uninspiring, and dotted with occasions when players collectively "zoned out" and lacked the focus that had always been their strong suit.

I kind of figured out my mistake a week or two into the short season, but by then the horses had left the barn, etc. The kids went back to their respective HS programs, and experienced a wide array of seasons - some fairly normal, others restricted, and others with no semblance of normalcy. But when that was all done, and this year's group got together in November to get things started for this new season, I made it an absolute point to NEVER talk about "wow we're lucky just to be playing". We knew we would have playing opportunities, so that would have been a false premise to begin with, and none of us wanted to be reminded of things we'd missed out on last season. We hit the ground running, and as of this writing, the kids have won almost 90% of their games to date, and are starting to chatter again about the outlook for Spring and Summer seasons.

So I've made the mistake of setting the bar low with tempered expectations during this pandemic - once - and learned from it, and have made the corrections and moved on, with good results. Noting the comments from Grasso and MS7 (there's no reason to believe everyone in that locker room hasn't heard that message), maybe that provides some insight for a lot of the uninspired hockey that's being played by UNH this season?

So Felgie - the team is going to have about 6-7 months off after the next 3-4 weekends. Giving them a week off (games and/or practices) seems like precisely the wrong enabling message to be sending to them right now. I suspect, as was the case in our last Summer season, that with a wrong message embedded, the horses have left the barn, and there's nothing this year's team is going to be able to do to get things back on track. Their only chance now is to double down on the hard work and system tweaks/overturns (PK), and hope to catch a wave of momentum that (improbably) carries them deep into the HE Tourney. Give them a week off now, and I'm afraid they've got one final RS weekend, and a one-and-done tourney (which may be the case regardless).

They'll have plenty of time to rest from April through August. And MS7 will have plenty of time to come up with a better pitch, both on the recruiting trails AND in his dressing room, to get his players and the program pointed towards success.
 
So Felgie - the team is going to have about 6-7 months off after the next 3-4 weekends. Giving them a week off (games and/or practices) seems like precisely the wrong enabling message to be sending to them right now. I suspect, as was the case in our last Summer season, that with a wrong message embedded, the horses have left the barn, and there's nothing this year's team is going to be able to do to get things back on track. Their only chance now is to double down on the hard work and system tweaks/overturns (PK), and hope to catch a wave of momentum that (improbably) carries them deep into the HE Tourney. Give them a week off now, and I'm afraid they've got one final RS weekend, and a one-and-done tourney (which may be the case regardless).

They'll have plenty of time to rest from April through August. And MS7 will have plenty of time to come up with a better pitch, both on the recruiting trails AND in his dressing room, to get his players and the program pointed towards success.

I don't have the insight as a coach that you have. And I respect that perspective. But I don't see why you couldn't have a week off AND still approach the games with your mindset. In fact, it would seem to me (granted, an outsider to the coaching world) EASIER to switch gears with a break. Tell the guys something to the effect of "enjoy your weekend off, but when we return there will be none of this happy to be here crap."

If this was a "normal" season, and my understanding is you want a return to normalcy, they would have missed a weekend at some point given the odd number of teams in the league. This was supposed to be a 20 game season; they have already played 21, the most in the league. (From Wodon's article it appears that Souza is the driving force behind playing so much.)

Probably I am just being selfish. I think a one game quarterfinal match up between BC and UNH (which holds a winning record over the Eagles in the Souza era) would be fascinating. Do I expect a UNH win? No, but still think it would be interesting. The problem is that situation could only arise if the Cats win in the (Make Believe?) round, which I think is unlikely no matter whether they play 2 or 4 more regular season games.

Anyway, I guess that's why Baskin Robbins makes 31 flavors.
 
Bruins blasting the Flyers in Tahoe, 7-3, but no fault of JVR who has a goal and two assists, and now boasts 502 career points...

Another goal last night and leads the Flyers in points this season, I think? I find myself paying more attention to him this season than the current Cats.
 
Another goal last night and leads the Flyers in points this season, I think? I find myself paying more attention to him this season than the current Cats.

JvR has never made an NHL All-Star team. Never. Not even once.

Yet.

But this may be his year, the Flyers' perennial All-Star Claude Giroux has only one (1) goal to his credit so far this season, so unless he goes off on one of his usual tears pretty soon, JvR is likely positioned to be Philly's top (even lone) designee this s- ...

... oh, wait. No All-Star game this season. Talk about buzzard's luck ...
 
Another goal last night and leads the Flyers in points this season, I think? I find myself paying more attention to him this season than the current Cats.

I think its awesome the season AND career JvR is having! Guy has 500 plus points...has been an Olympian...makes a cool 4 mil ? a year...I mean sorry I don't know the stories of other UNH'ers in the show but I'd say he's done pretty darn well!
 
Jason Krog: UNH years were best of hockey journey and NCAA title loss still hurts
https://www.seacoastonline.com/stor...-says-ncaa-title-loss-still-hurts/4559597001/

Hit the link, but they wanted me to subscribe in order to read it... Fat chance!

I'm guessing that Jason was referring to the '99 game. What a terrifying team UNH had that year.

(Or maybe it was right around that time when they were hammered by Minnesota in the Final? Been a while...)

In either case, UHN was scary-good in that era.
 
Hit the link, but they wanted me to subscribe in order to read it... Fat chance!

I'm guessing that Jason was referring to the '99 game. What a terrifying team UNH had that year.

(Or maybe it was right around that time when they were hammered by Minnesota in the Final? Been a while...)

In either case, UHN was scary-good in that era.

Krog's teams got hammered by Michigan in the '98 semis, and lost in OT to Walshy in '99.

Kroggie wasn't there for the '02 semis hammering by UMaine, or the '03 Finals loss to the Gophs.

Us UNH old-timers have snap-action recall on the details of the various tragic losses.

+++++++++++++++

So ... this weekend, I was chatting with our eldest daughter, who is now married, has a kid, and lives in the town next door to Effingwoods. Some of the really old-timers on this board may vaguely remember her as my tag-along for home & road games back in the day. Had Friends membership so she could get autographs, and her all-time favorite was Darren Haydar, but long and short was, she really loved the program, and it was a big part in her eventual decision to get her undergrad and graduate degrees from UNH, which have served her well in the real world.

She is now 31 years old (if that makes you feel old, imagine how it makes me feel?). She continues to follow the program, but not as voraciously as she used to when she was a kid, and that's understandable, 'cuz life brings its changes. But to show just how poorly UNH Athletics (in general) and UNH Hockey (in particular) has done in keeping itself relevant in the world to folks who actually want to AND should know what's going on ... her comment to me was "So, what are you doing this winter without UNH Hockey? The Red Wings aren't doing well, that must be rough."

Imagine her surprise when I told her UNH Hockey and Hockey East were actually "things" this season (she's probably been to at least a dozen HEA Tourneys in Boston with me). She knew that an NHL team located on the edge of our time zone, and playing in a different division from the more local teams, one she casually followed back in the day because I - not her - was a voracious DRW fan, was actually playing (and not playing particularly well).

She did NOT know that a program she used to worship, where she went to the school for half a decade, follows the alumni events, and now lives literally two towns over from, was also actually playing.

There was still a 4 figure season tix waiting list when she matriculated, gone by graduation.

Sit back, and let that sink in ...
 
Krog's teams got hammered by Michigan in the '98 semis, and lost in OT to Walshy in '99.

Kroggie wasn't there for the '02 semis hammering by UMaine, or the '03 Finals loss to the Gophs.

Us UNH old-timers have snap-action recall on the details of the various tragic losses.

+++++++++++++++

So ... this weekend, I was chatting with our eldest daughter, who is now married, has a kid, and lives in the town next door to Effingwoods. Some of the really old-timers on this board may vaguely remember her as my tag-along for home & road games back in the day. Had Friends membership so she could get autographs, and her all-time favorite was Darren Haydar, but long and short was, she really loved the program, and it was a big part in her eventual decision to get her undergrad and graduate degrees from UNH, which have served her well in the real world.

She is now 31 years old (if that makes you feel old, imagine how it makes me feel?). She continues to follow the program, but not as voraciously as she used to when she was a kid, and that's understandable, 'cuz life brings its changes. But to show just how poorly UNH Athletics (in general) and UNH Hockey (in particular) has done in keeping itself relevant in the world to folks who actually want to AND should know what's going on ... her comment to me was "So, what are you doing this winter without UNH Hockey? The Red Wings aren't doing well, that must be rough."

Imagine her surprise when I told her UNH Hockey and Hockey East were actually "things" this season (she's probably been to at least a dozen HEA Tourneys in Boston with me). She knew that an NHL team located on the edge of our time zone, and playing in a different division from the more local teams, one she casually followed back in the day because I - not her - was a voracious DRW fan, was actually playing (and not playing particularly well).

She did NOT know that a program she used to worship, where she went to the school for half a decade, follows the alumni events, and now lives literally two towns over from, was also actually playing.

There was still a 4 figure season tix waiting list when she matriculated, gone by graduation.

Sit back, and let that sink in ...

Yeah, I doubt there's very much, if any, advertising as such...things have been largely social media for me personally. Occasionally you see a story about who the 'Cats are playing on WMUR. Other than the typical social media outlets that cover them, that's about it. But hasn't that been an issue for awhile now; local coverage of the games etc?
 
Yeah, I doubt there's very much, if any, advertising as such...things have been largely social media for me personally. Occasionally you see a story about who the 'Cats are playing on WMUR. Other than the typical social media outlets that cover them, that's about it. But hasn't that been an issue for awhile now; local coverage of the games etc?

Yup, it sure has. Dating back to when the Manchester Monarchs (RIP) strolled into town and immediately dubbed themselves the "Kings of NH Hockey" (yes they were a Kings' farm team, but ... ), and our stellar AD and his staff did absolutely nothing to compete for the support of the more distant but equally-loyal Rte. 93 corridor UNH fanbase - remember when UNH played their '94/'95 season on the road, mostly at JFK Arena in Manchester, waiting for The Whitt to be built? - the fall-off in support for the UNH Hockey program has been predictable, and can easily be pinned on just one (1) guy and his overall department.

In the private sector, the guy would have lost his job at least a decade ago, the day the wait list for season tickets dried up, and empty seats started to pop up where none had previously.

Instead, he's in the public sector, watched the program and its support dive to levels that would have been unthinkable even a few years after the turn of the century, when you could still have a serious discussion about expansion possibilities to add a second tier of seats in certain sections of The Whitt. Now, you talk like that, and the guys with the white coats and those jackets that only button up the back will be on the lookout for you ... ut's crazy how far UNH has fallen, both on and off the ice. MS7 has lived the extremes at both ends, and I'm sure the only reason he's not more vocal about the fall-off in support would be that the second he throws Blue Skies under the bus, Blue Skies will put MS7 on the Highway to McCloskeyville.

I suppose that's one of the reasons I've been so disappointed at the MS7 regime to date.

I've seen poor ownership lacking vision kill a successful baseball franchise in less than a generation, and now I'm seeing a repeat of the same thing with UNH Hockey. It's not fun, I'll tell you that much ...
 
MS7 has lived the extremes at both ends, and I'm sure the only reason he's not more vocal about the fall-off in support would be that the second he throws Blue Skies under the bus, Blue Skies will put MS7 on the Highway to McCloskeyville.

I suppose that's one of the reasons I've been so disappointed at the MS7 regime to date.

I've seen poor ownership lacking vision kill a successful baseball franchise in less than a generation, and now I'm seeing a repeat of the same thing with UNH Hockey. It's not fun, I'll tell you that much ...

I gotta hand it to you Charlie, that line about Soooza made me laugh so hard I just about fell off of the can! Good Gravy man, sometimes you come up with some real wing dingers!!

"Mahhty" pretty much screwed the pooch with his handling of UNH hockey, and the pooch is screwed for the foreseeable future I'm afraid. Assistant coaches can come in and leave in a revolving door fashion, but UNH head coaches don't seem to leave until they retire. Soooza's gotta young family, doesn't he?? He ain't going anywhere folks. And unless that there 'Carolina carpetbagger Prez decides that it's time to "re-organize", don't expect Mahhty to be leaving any time soon either. Lather, rinse, repeat for the forseeable future folks!!

Good news - I've got my Covid vaccine! No Chinese flu for me, thank the lord!!

But all of you other hooligans had better KEEP YOUR DANG MASKS ON!!! CHARLIE, THAT MEANS YOU!!! That old feller that was yelling at you last week at the Hannafords, yeah that was me you durn fool!! Criminy....if you're going to walk around the store carrying a six-pack of PBR, at least wear the dang mask to partially hide your and not embarrass yourself!!!
 
JvR has never made an NHL All-Star team. Never. Not even once.

Yet.

But this may be his year, the Flyers' perennial All-Star Claude Giroux has only one (1) goal to his credit so far this season, so unless he goes off on one of his usual tears pretty soon, JvR is likely positioned to be Philly's top (even lone) designee this s- ...

... oh, wait. No All-Star game this season. Talk about buzzard's luck ...

JvR may never make a NHL all star team, but if he stays healthy for three more seasons, he may surpass Langway in games played.
 
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I gotta hand it to you Charlie, that line about Soooza made me laugh so hard I just about fell off of the can! Good Gravy man, sometimes you come up with some real wing dingers!!

"Mahhty" pretty much screwed the pooch with his handling of UNH hockey, and the pooch is screwed for the foreseeable future I'm afraid. Assistant coaches can come in and leave in a revolving door fashion, but UNH head coaches don't seem to leave until they retire. Soooza's gotta young family, doesn't he?? He ain't going anywhere folks. And unless that there 'Carolina carpetbagger Prez decides that it's time to "re-organize", don't expect Mahhty to be leaving any time soon either. Lather, rinse, repeat for the forseeable future folks!!

Good news - I've got my Covid vaccine! No Chinese flu for me, thank the lord!!

But all of you other hooligans had better KEEP YOUR DANG MASKS ON!!! CHARLIE, THAT MEANS YOU!!! That old feller that was yelling at you last week at the Hannafords, yeah that was me you durn fool!! Criminy....if you're going to walk around the store carrying a six-pack of PBR, at least wear the dang mask to partially hide your and not embarrass yourself!!!

Now I know why the wife prefers to drag me along to Market Basket these days ...
 
Yup, it sure has. Dating back to when the Manchester Monarchs (RIP) strolled into town and immediately dubbed themselves the "Kings of NH Hockey" (yes they were a Kings' farm team, but ... ), and our stellar AD and his staff did absolutely nothing to compete for the support of the more distant but equally-loyal Rte. 93 corridor UNH fanbase - remember when UNH played their '94/'95 season on the road, mostly at JFK Arena in Manchester, waiting for The Whitt to be built? - the fall-off in support for the UNH Hockey program has been predictable, and can easily be pinned on just one (1) guy and his overall department.

In the private sector, the guy would have lost his job at least a decade ago, the day the wait list for season tickets dried up, and empty seats started to pop up where none had previously.

Instead, he's in the public sector, watched the program and its support dive to levels that would have been unthinkable even a few years after the turn of the century, when you could still have a serious discussion about expansion possibilities to add a second tier of seats in certain sections of The Whitt. Now, you talk like that, and the guys with the white coats and those jackets that only button up the back will be on the lookout for you ... ut's crazy how far UNH has fallen, both on and off the ice. MS7 has lived the extremes at both ends, and I'm sure the only reason he's not more vocal about the fall-off in support would be that the second he throws Blue Skies under the bus, Blue Skies will put MS7 on the Highway to McCloskeyville.

I suppose that's one of the reasons I've been so disappointed at the MS7 regime to date.

I've seen poor ownership lacking vision kill a successful baseball franchise in less than a generation, and now I'm seeing a repeat of the same thing with UNH Hockey. It's not fun, I'll tell you that much ...

Glad we moved away when we did. Cats hockey was so much fun to watch when I was in school (early 70s; not really contenders but exciting to watch) and then when we moved back to the area (the Krog years being the highlight). The AD has to take the blame for the precipitous fall; except no one — except the few fans left — seems to care.
 
The AD has to take the blame for the precipitous fall; except no one — except the few fans left — seems to care.

He certainly seems a master of selling his awful record. I guess fleecing a librarian out of a million counts for more than competent management of that million once on the books.
 
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