walrus
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I don't either, hopefully he comes but it's a verbal to a 15 yr old kid. Maine hasn't landed one yet.
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UMAINE Recruits Part 2: 2016/2017 and what follows
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I don't either, hopefully he comes but it's a verbal to a 15 yr old kid. Maine hasn't landed one yet.
Maine Event
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Re: UMAINE Recruits Part 2: 2016/2017 and what follows
Per "U.S. Hockey Wire" on Twitter: "UMaine get a local commitment from in-state 01 F Max Bogdanovich. 6'4" power forward skated for the Junior Bruins U16 last season. Good get."
Always good to get a local kid.
Per "U.S. Hockey Wire" on Twitter: "UMaine get a local commitment from in-state 01 F Max Bogdanovich. 6'4" power forward skated for the Junior Bruins U16 last season. Good get."
Always good to get a local kid.
walrus
Wind up workin' in a gas station
I agree like it when we get maine kids. I guess he is good at throwing a shot put in track. At 6' 4" and 16 yrs old, he is apt to be taller by the time he gets to orono.
AMC
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Re: UMAINE Recruits Part 2: 2016/2017 and what follows
Who is reporting it? The Maine coaches and staff can't comment on verbal commitments. These are all basically advisers throwing information out there to bloggers. We have no idea what conversations actually take place. I sincerely doubt that these kids bailing on commitments to go to the Q are shocks to the Maine coaches. This conversation could be touted as a commitment:
15 year old Canadian: "I am 99% positive I am going to the Q. But if it does end up I go NCAA, I'd like to come to Maine."
Maine coach: "Well, I get it. Keep us posted, we'd love to have you."
15 year old Canadian's advisor to media member, hoping to affect QMJHL draft position: "MY PLAYER HAS COMMITTED TO ATTEND MAINE!!!!"
Who is reporting it? The Maine coaches and staff can't comment on verbal commitments. These are all basically advisers throwing information out there to bloggers. We have no idea what conversations actually take place. I sincerely doubt that these kids bailing on commitments to go to the Q are shocks to the Maine coaches. This conversation could be touted as a commitment:
15 year old Canadian: "I am 99% positive I am going to the Q. But if it does end up I go NCAA, I'd like to come to Maine."
Maine coach: "Well, I get it. Keep us posted, we'd love to have you."
15 year old Canadian's advisor to media member, hoping to affect QMJHL draft position: "MY PLAYER HAS COMMITTED TO ATTEND MAINE!!!!"
Ma#1ne Hky
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AMC
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Re: UMAINE Recruits Part 2: 2016/2017 and what follows
What are you talking about? You complained that Maine recruits these kids and publicizes the commitments. That was me pointing out that the amount these kids are recruited, and whether the commitments are in fact, solid or real, is something known by maybe 5 people total, in the entire world, and the 3 of those people that work for UMaine are prohibited from discussing or clarifying things in any way. There is nothing stopping me from telling a hockey recruiting blogger that some random 14 year old in Kazakhstan is a Maine commit, and there is nothing stopping that blogger from reporting it as fact, and there is nothing the University can do to confirm or deny the report. In other words, relax about reported commitments from 14/15/16 year old kids.
What are you talking about? You complained that Maine recruits these kids and publicizes the commitments. That was me pointing out that the amount these kids are recruited, and whether the commitments are in fact, solid or real, is something known by maybe 5 people total, in the entire world, and the 3 of those people that work for UMaine are prohibited from discussing or clarifying things in any way. There is nothing stopping me from telling a hockey recruiting blogger that some random 14 year old in Kazakhstan is a Maine commit, and there is nothing stopping that blogger from reporting it as fact, and there is nothing the University can do to confirm or deny the report. In other words, relax about reported commitments from 14/15/16 year old kids.
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Re: UMAINE Recruits Part 2: 2016/2017 and what follows
Both Mike McMahon and Jeff Cox tweeted on it Tuesday night, and here's the BDN story
http://bangordailynews.com/2016/09/15/sports/scarborough-forward-commits-to-umaine-mens-hockey-team/
Both Mike McMahon and Jeff Cox tweeted on it Tuesday night, and here's the BDN story
http://bangordailynews.com/2016/09/15/sports/scarborough-forward-commits-to-umaine-mens-hockey-team/
Re: UMAINE Recruits Part 2: 2016/2017 and what follows
AMC is 1000% right about the way these things are reported in the blogosphere. At one time coaches would give some indication to the local reporters (like Larry say) off the record if a verbal was solid and worth writing about or if it was more like what AMC's talking about. I don't know if thats still the case.
AMC is 1000% right about the way these things are reported in the blogosphere. At one time coaches would give some indication to the local reporters (like Larry say) off the record if a verbal was solid and worth writing about or if it was more like what AMC's talking about. I don't know if thats still the case.
I think in some cases there could be some quid pro quo going on when the player's 'advisor.' There are likely some players who when the commit genuinely have no idea which path they are going to choose too. It seems like a lot of folks view all of these the same when they are all different.
Speaking of Larry stories, I don't remember seeing any for Pieper, Hoglund, or Housakos. I wonder if Red doesn't expect much from these guys or if Larry just wasn't interested in doing a story on any of them.
Ma#1ne Hky
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umhockey91
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Re: UMAINE Recruits Part 2: 2016/2017 and what follows
AMC.......These players are reporting their commitments THEMSELVES on Twitter. Yeah, they may or may no show up.....but don't act like this stuff is second hand rumor. And don't blame us if you don' have a Twitter account and can't keep up.
AMC.......These players are reporting their commitments THEMSELVES on Twitter. Yeah, they may or may no show up.....but don't act like this stuff is second hand rumor. And don't blame us if you don' have a Twitter account and can't keep up.
I beleive he was commenting more on the level of their commitment. The coaches aren't coming out and saying whatever 15 or 16 year old that just committed is going to be Maine's savior.
walrus
Wind up workin' in a gas station
Re: UMAINE Recruits Part 2: 2016/2017 and what follows
The thing is, the staff can't comment on them until they sign an NLI so the blame isn't really with the staff but the buck has to stop somewhere.
AMC
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Re: UMAINE Recruits Part 2: 2016/2017 and what follows
Which is happening for the same reason that their advisors would make the announcement. None of us have any idea if the conversation was "I'm definitely coming to Maine" or "I'm coming to Maine if I don't like the Q team that drafts me."
And, you missed my point entirely. Go make up another user name and start over again, SD.
Which is happening for the same reason that their advisors would make the announcement. None of us have any idea if the conversation was "I'm definitely coming to Maine" or "I'm coming to Maine if I don't like the Q team that drafts me."
And, you missed my point entirely. Go make up another user name and start over again, SD.
Re: UMAINE Recruits Part 2: 2016/2017 and what follows
Neutral Zone article on recruit Harrison Roy.: A Development Focus: The Harrison Roy Story
Neutral Zone article on recruit Harrison Roy.: A Development Focus: The Harrison Roy Story
Re: UMAINE Recruits Part 2: 2016/2017 and what follows
This is a hectic time of year for keeping track of which junior roster recruits are on as leagues are finalizing their regular season rosters. I thought this would be a good time to provide a holistic update on where UMaine recruits are playing and how they are performing in this very young season. Please note that recruits are grouped by position and listed in order of age not necessarily recruiting class as only Red et al. know when these guys are actually coming. *=signed NLI.
USHL
Of note Jacob Schmidt-Svejstrup had a great preseason with Dubuque scoring 5 points in as many games. Eduards Tralmaks is much hyped but did not see any preseason action, I suspect perhaps injury related but not sure. Assuming good health both Tralmaks and Schmidt-Svejstrup should put up numbers this year in the USHL. Kyle Kawamura made the Lincoln roster as a '99 which makes him the youngest UMaine recruit in the USHL. On the blueline Alexis Binner will be one to watch, in the past he has flashed ability in both zones and will look to continue his improvement. Binner is draft eligible this year and appeared on the NHL Central Scouting Futures List. Surprisingly Cameron Spicer did not make the final Bloomington (USHL) roster after playing the past season and a half with the team. Although he is not flashy offensively he is a smart defender that stays out of the box and always has a positive +/-. Bloomington did however keep Simon Butala who is coming of a season where he dealt with multiple injuries and transfers throughout the USHL/NAHL, hopefully he can stay on the ice this year and get back on track with his development. Jack Moran did not make the final cut with Des Moines and as of writing this I have not seen any indication of where he might be headed.
USPHL
Recent UMaine recruit Dallas Farrell from PEI is the youngest member of the Jr. Bruins and through 2 games has 2 goals and 2 assists all coming in the first game of the season. Kevin Hock also notched 2 goals in his first game of the season with South Shore.
Others
Brent Hill was originally slated to suit up for Topeka (NAHL) but instead found a home on the Carelton Place (CCHL) roster. CCHL is definetly an offensive minded league so his stats might be a little bloated this year but regardless this is a step up in competition from the NAHL. A.J. Drobot tallied a goal in his first game of the season for Austin (NAHL), his second season with the team. Adam Dawe will be one to keep an eye on as well this year suiting up once again for the prestigious Notre Dame Hounds (SJHL) who is touted for his offensive ability. Dawe is on the affiliate list for Dubuque (USHL) and may find his way to the USHL this season. Prep leagues do not start up until later in the fall so we will have to wait to hear how Needham, Shea, Roy, & Breen are faring. Will be interesting to see if Neeham and Shea paired up together on the same line at Lawrence.
GO BLUE!
This is a hectic time of year for keeping track of which junior roster recruits are on as leagues are finalizing their regular season rosters. I thought this would be a good time to provide a holistic update on where UMaine recruits are playing and how they are performing in this very young season. Please note that recruits are grouped by position and listed in order of age not necessarily recruiting class as only Red et al. know when these guys are actually coming. *=signed NLI.
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Name DOB Pos Sh Team GP G A TP PIM +/- Notes
Jack Quinlivan 96/05 W L Jr. Bruins (USPHL) 2 0 0 0 2 -
Kevin Hock 96/11 RW R South Shore (USPHL) 1 2 0 2 0 -
Eduards Tralmaks 97/02 LW L Chicago (USHL) - - - - - -
Brent Hill 97/12 RW R Carelton Place (CCHL) 1 0 0 0 0 -
Jacob Schmidt- 98/01 RW R Dubuque (USHL) 5 3 2 5 4 1 Preseason Stats (USHL)
-Svejstrup
A.J. Drobot 98/04 F R Austin (NAHL) 1 1 0 1 0 0
Adam Dawe 99/01 W R Notre Dame (SJHL) 3 1 0 1 6 -
Craig Needham 99/03 F L Lawrence Acad. (Prep) - - - - - -
Kyle Kawamura 99/05 RW R Lincoln (USHL) 5 0 0 0 0 1 Preseason Stats (USHL)
Dallas Farrell 99/05 F R Jr. Bruins (USPHL) 2 2 2 4 0 -
Neil Shea 99/07 F L Lawrence Acad. (Prep) - - - - - -
Harrison Roy 00/01 W R Loomis Chafee (Prep) - - - - - -
Max Bogdanovich 01/03 F L Jr. Bruins 16U 1 1 0 1 - -
Lynden Breen 01/05 F L New Hampton (Prep) - - - - - -
[U]Defensemen[/U]
Name DOB Pos Sh Team GP G A TP PIM +/- Notes
Cameron Spicer* 96/02 D R ? 4 0 0 0 6 1 Preseason Stats (USHL)
Brady Keeper 96/06 D R OCN Blizzard (MJHL)? - - - - - -
Jack Moran 98/05 D L ? - - - - - -
Simon Butala 98/08 D L Bloomington (USHL) 5 0 1 1 4 0 Preseason Stats (USHL)
Alexis Binner 98/12 D L Green Bay (USHL) 5 0 2 2 4 2 Preseason Stats (USHL)
[U]Goalie[/U]
Name DOB Pos Glove Team GP GAA SV% Notes
Ben Beck 99/05 G L EC Salzburg U18 2 4.00 0.826Of note Jacob Schmidt-Svejstrup had a great preseason with Dubuque scoring 5 points in as many games. Eduards Tralmaks is much hyped but did not see any preseason action, I suspect perhaps injury related but not sure. Assuming good health both Tralmaks and Schmidt-Svejstrup should put up numbers this year in the USHL. Kyle Kawamura made the Lincoln roster as a '99 which makes him the youngest UMaine recruit in the USHL. On the blueline Alexis Binner will be one to watch, in the past he has flashed ability in both zones and will look to continue his improvement. Binner is draft eligible this year and appeared on the NHL Central Scouting Futures List. Surprisingly Cameron Spicer did not make the final Bloomington (USHL) roster after playing the past season and a half with the team. Although he is not flashy offensively he is a smart defender that stays out of the box and always has a positive +/-. Bloomington did however keep Simon Butala who is coming of a season where he dealt with multiple injuries and transfers throughout the USHL/NAHL, hopefully he can stay on the ice this year and get back on track with his development. Jack Moran did not make the final cut with Des Moines and as of writing this I have not seen any indication of where he might be headed.
USPHL
Recent UMaine recruit Dallas Farrell from PEI is the youngest member of the Jr. Bruins and through 2 games has 2 goals and 2 assists all coming in the first game of the season. Kevin Hock also notched 2 goals in his first game of the season with South Shore.
Others
Brent Hill was originally slated to suit up for Topeka (NAHL) but instead found a home on the Carelton Place (CCHL) roster. CCHL is definetly an offensive minded league so his stats might be a little bloated this year but regardless this is a step up in competition from the NAHL. A.J. Drobot tallied a goal in his first game of the season for Austin (NAHL), his second season with the team. Adam Dawe will be one to keep an eye on as well this year suiting up once again for the prestigious Notre Dame Hounds (SJHL) who is touted for his offensive ability. Dawe is on the affiliate list for Dubuque (USHL) and may find his way to the USHL this season. Prep leagues do not start up until later in the fall so we will have to wait to hear how Needham, Shea, Roy, & Breen are faring. Will be interesting to see if Neeham and Shea paired up together on the same line at Lawrence.
GO BLUE!
Re: UMAINE Recruits Part 2: 2016/2017 and what follows
This is very well done and hopefully you keep this up throughout the season. I do have a few questions. Who do you think actually comes in next year on the blue line? There are five guys committed, but Maine only has one senior this year. It seems that Binner will certainly come in and should be a good replacement for Schurhamer, but what happens after that?
Is there any chance they could bring in Farrell next year if he has a really good season? He will turn 18 in May so I would think he would be all set academically.
Do you have any idea who they have their eye on as far as goalies go? For me that is the most crucial thing recruiting wise right now. They need someone good to replace Morris and I would imagine a lot of the top guys for next year are already locked up. I know there is a Russian playing in the USHL who is supposed to be really good but not sure if he would work out or not.
This is very well done and hopefully you keep this up throughout the season. I do have a few questions. Who do you think actually comes in next year on the blue line? There are five guys committed, but Maine only has one senior this year. It seems that Binner will certainly come in and should be a good replacement for Schurhamer, but what happens after that?
Is there any chance they could bring in Farrell next year if he has a really good season? He will turn 18 in May so I would think he would be all set academically.
Do you have any idea who they have their eye on as far as goalies go? For me that is the most crucial thing recruiting wise right now. They need someone good to replace Morris and I would imagine a lot of the top guys for next year are already locked up. I know there is a Russian playing in the USHL who is supposed to be really good but not sure if he would work out or not.
Re: UMAINE Recruits Part 2: 2016/2017 and what follows
Drew,
When I look at the D-men recruits the first thing that sticks out is Spicer and Keeper. Someone with better knowledge than me may know but, I believe, as early '96's they are currently in their final year of junior eligibility. As a result you would have to expect to see them next year. Binner clearly has the most potential, and keep in mind potential is a big word, but he is still a little young so Red et al. is probably taking the wait and see approach to see how his performance grows during his first season in the USHL. It was my understanding from a around the time he made his commitment that he has a lot of athleticism but needed to work on his decision making; I haven't heard a recent scouting report however. Butala has participated in a couple of USA Selects camps and has plenty of ability on both ends of the ice mixed in with a wonderful nasty streak (youtube is fight videos sometime) but he unfortunately suffered from a lot of set backs last year with injury that certainly slowed his development. So like Binner he goes into the wait and see category. I honestly do not know much about Moran so it is difficult for me to weigh in on his status, although I did see that he is indeed playing for Des Moines in the USHL this year so that is a good sign. I will make that edit to my list after this weekends round of games. Binner, Butala, & Moran are the left shot d-men so one of them getting to Orono next fall would help balance the unit with the departure of left shot Schurhamer but at the same time I don't think Red et al., will be interested in rushing any of those three guys into Orono unless there are a couple of currently rostered players simply not working out, similar to the forward group this offseason.
If I had to guess, Farrell is at least two seasons away from Orono. Farrell possibly has the talent to play in Orono next fall but he needs to work on his strength. I would expect a year in the USHL next year for him along with most of the other '99's, Dawe, Kawamura, etc. Kawamura has a little more rugged build than Farrell and Dawe which is one reason why you see him playing USHL this year.
Goalie is wide open at this point. I think Red et al. would like to find a recruit who can bridge the gap between McGovern and Beck, who is coming in the fall after McGovern graduates. The past couple of seasons have had a lot of European import goalies entering the USHL and other N.A. junior leagues to the tune of about 2/3 of all starting goalies in the USHL this year will be European. The European goalies are a group that is looking for NA exposure and there will be lots of opportunities thrown at them from NCAA, Major Junior, ECHL, & AHL. As always good goaltending is a heavily desired commodity. In short, I would look for them to go that route. But then again they may be able to find another McGovern who got passed over simply for one bad year in juniors.
As always, hockey recruiting is far different from basketball of football recruiting, so much of it comes down to development of both the recruits and the players already on the roster.
Drew,
When I look at the D-men recruits the first thing that sticks out is Spicer and Keeper. Someone with better knowledge than me may know but, I believe, as early '96's they are currently in their final year of junior eligibility. As a result you would have to expect to see them next year. Binner clearly has the most potential, and keep in mind potential is a big word, but he is still a little young so Red et al. is probably taking the wait and see approach to see how his performance grows during his first season in the USHL. It was my understanding from a around the time he made his commitment that he has a lot of athleticism but needed to work on his decision making; I haven't heard a recent scouting report however. Butala has participated in a couple of USA Selects camps and has plenty of ability on both ends of the ice mixed in with a wonderful nasty streak (youtube is fight videos sometime) but he unfortunately suffered from a lot of set backs last year with injury that certainly slowed his development. So like Binner he goes into the wait and see category. I honestly do not know much about Moran so it is difficult for me to weigh in on his status, although I did see that he is indeed playing for Des Moines in the USHL this year so that is a good sign. I will make that edit to my list after this weekends round of games. Binner, Butala, & Moran are the left shot d-men so one of them getting to Orono next fall would help balance the unit with the departure of left shot Schurhamer but at the same time I don't think Red et al., will be interested in rushing any of those three guys into Orono unless there are a couple of currently rostered players simply not working out, similar to the forward group this offseason.
If I had to guess, Farrell is at least two seasons away from Orono. Farrell possibly has the talent to play in Orono next fall but he needs to work on his strength. I would expect a year in the USHL next year for him along with most of the other '99's, Dawe, Kawamura, etc. Kawamura has a little more rugged build than Farrell and Dawe which is one reason why you see him playing USHL this year.
Goalie is wide open at this point. I think Red et al. would like to find a recruit who can bridge the gap between McGovern and Beck, who is coming in the fall after McGovern graduates. The past couple of seasons have had a lot of European import goalies entering the USHL and other N.A. junior leagues to the tune of about 2/3 of all starting goalies in the USHL this year will be European. The European goalies are a group that is looking for NA exposure and there will be lots of opportunities thrown at them from NCAA, Major Junior, ECHL, & AHL. As always good goaltending is a heavily desired commodity. In short, I would look for them to go that route. But then again they may be able to find another McGovern who got passed over simply for one bad year in juniors.
As always, hockey recruiting is far different from basketball of football recruiting, so much of it comes down to development of both the recruits and the players already on the roster.
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Re: UMAINE Recruits Part 2: 2016/2017 and what follows
After one full week of junior games here is the updated stats for UMaine recruits. Jr. Bruins and South Shore Kings faced off on Saturday which featured three UMaine recruits who all performed well. Jack Quinlivan scored two goals, one assisted by Dallas Farrell and Kevin Hock scored for South Shore. Hock has 4 goals in as many games to start the season. Adam Dawe had a good weekend scoring 3 goals and 1 assist in three games. Brady Keeper showed off his offensive potential from the blueline with 1 goal and 2 assists in 2 games.
Go Blue!!
After one full week of junior games here is the updated stats for UMaine recruits. Jr. Bruins and South Shore Kings faced off on Saturday which featured three UMaine recruits who all performed well. Jack Quinlivan scored two goals, one assisted by Dallas Farrell and Kevin Hock scored for South Shore. Hock has 4 goals in as many games to start the season. Adam Dawe had a good weekend scoring 3 goals and 1 assist in three games. Brady Keeper showed off his offensive potential from the blueline with 1 goal and 2 assists in 2 games.
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Name DOB Pos Sh Team GP G A TP PIM +/-
Jack Quinlivan 96/05 W L Jr. Bruins (USPHL) 5 2 0 2 6 -
Kevin Hock 96/11 RW R South Shore (USPHL) 4 4 0 4 4 -
Eduards Tralmaks97/02 LW L Chicago (USHL) - - - - - -
Brent Hill 97/12 RW R Carelton Place (CCHL) 3 0 3 1 2 -
Jacob Schmidt 98/01 RW R Dubuque (USHL) 1 0 0 0 2 0
-Svejstrup
A.J. Drobot 98/04 F R Austin (NAHL) 4 1 2 3 4 0
Adam Dawe 99/01 W R Notre Dame (SJHL) 6 4 1 5 10 -
Craig Needham 99/03 F L Lawrence Acad. (Prep) - - - - - -
Kyle Kawamura 99/05 RW R Lincoln (USHL) - - - - - -
Dallas Farrell 99/05 F R Jr. Bruins (USPHL) 5 2 3 5 0 -
Neil Shea 99/07 F L Lawrence Acad. (Prep) - - - - - -
Harrison Roy 00/01 W R Loomis Chafee (Prep) - - - - - -
Max Bogdanovich 01/03 F L Jr. Bruins 16U 2 1 0 1 - -
Lynden Breen 01/05 F L New Hampton (Prep) - - - - - -
[U]Defensemen[/U]
Name DOB Pos Sh Team GP G A TP PIM +/-
Cameron Spicer* 96/02 D R ? - - - - - -
Brady Keeper 96/06 D R OCN Blizzard (MJHL) 2 1 2 3 0 0
Jack Moran 98/05 D L Des Moines (USHL) 1 0 0 0 0 -1
Simon Butala 98/08 D L Bloomington (USHL) 1 0 0 0 0 0
Alexis Binner 98/12 D L Green Bay (USHL) 1 0 0 0 0 0
[U]Goalie[/U]
Name DOB Pos Glove Team GP GAA SV%
Ben Beck 99/05 G L EC Salzburg U18 3 3.67 0.847Go Blue!!