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UMaine Hockey 23 - 24: The Barr Crawl to Glory!!!
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Look and are lifeless.
Sparkee
Blackbear
It isn’t careful what you wish for. UNH is the lowest ranked team Maine can play unless an upset happens.
Blackbear96
Active member
I’ll gladly, and deservedly, eat crow next weekend if needed but I have a feeling the boys want UNH next weekend badly. Avenging one of their worst weekends at home with a chance to go to the Garden? Barr will have them all kind of dialed in. LETS GO.
Speaking of upsets, if Lowell pulls one off against NH and the other favorites win, Maine gets to welcome Northeastern back to Alfond. Personally, I want nothing to do with NU if at all possible; I may loathe them but I can also recognize that they are a far better team than a 7th place finish would indicate and a very tough matchup for Maine in particular.
Thinking they do want UNH this coming Saturday...hopefully they remember last years game v. Vermont...playoff hockey with one and done added to it....nice to see they finished on a high note this weekend... good series as UMass gave them all they could handle...good goaltending/physical play/up and down action at times....playoff hockey to end the regular season.
umhockey91
Well-known member
Predictions on HE awards? I'm thinking Nadeau Bros on All-Rookie although one may be squeezed out by BC/BU wunderkinds. Barr has to be COTY...right?
Carmine Scarpaglia
My bad.
A road record of 5-7 in Hockey East doesn't give you pause for Barr as COTY?
umhockey91
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Yes.....but the coaches picking him 9th and finishing 3rd doesn't give me pause. They will look like total a-holes if they pick someone who finished #1 and was expected to be #2. Who couldn't win with a billion first rounders?
umhockey91
Well-known member
My regional predictions at the moment....
Providence:
BC
Maine
Michigan
Bemidji
Springfield:
BU
Wisconsin
Quinnipiac
Western Michigan
Sioux Falls:
North Dakota
Minnesota
Colorado College
Providence
Maryland Heights:
Denver
Michigan State
Omaha
RIT
Providence:
BC
Maine
Michigan
Bemidji
Springfield:
BU
Wisconsin
Quinnipiac
Western Michigan
Sioux Falls:
North Dakota
Minnesota
Colorado College
Providence
Maryland Heights:
Denver
Michigan State
Omaha
RIT
Carmine Scarpaglia
My bad.
So BC and BU coaches are disqualified in perpetuity from COTY because of projection of professional success via draft status? Come on.
well…the coach of the tear sure got the behind-the-play clobbering of macklin ended…while Barr did nothing to stop the incessant uncalled cheap shots against freshmen not named macklin
i guess that’s worth something
walrus
Wind up workin' in a gas station
Getting 3rd in HE after 10 plus years of stinking the place up is pretty impressive. I dont care if barr gets coach of year or not. just keep winning
umhockey91
Well-known member
Maybe Maine will get no honorees.....give them all to BC and BU. Maine got to #3 with smoke and mirrors.
Carmine Scarpaglia
My bad.
I don't disagree. I just think disqualifying candidates because "they have the best players" is not a good faith argument and it's a low-IQ/biased take. I think it has to be Barr or Brown - I don't see a compelling argument for Pandolfo over Brown to be honest. All that being said, sure Brown had a ton of talent but it was also the youngest team in the country, a 17-point differential over 3rd place Maine and a +74 goal differential (Maine +25 for reference to show how dominating BC was). But anyway, Brown is disqualified obviously.
Sure you should dominate if you have the talent BC and BU has, but both did (Pandolfo was on BC's heels in the standings the whole way and +69).
grooverider
Your Team Sucks
Yep I agree even through Brown has the talent his teams need to produce. Funny how Maine seems to play well against BC albeit last few times in Orono
BlackBearFan19
Active member
Some people are born on third and have convinced themselves that they’ve hit a triple.
umhockey91
Well-known member
I've been called worse than having a low IQ. Not sure where I said Brown was "disqualified"??? By the way.....Barr is 1-0-1 Vs. Brown this season.
As far as COTY goes, I think it really depends on how you define the award. If your criteria is "the guy who's team over-performed expectations the most", then obviously it's Barr. If your criteria is "who had the best season", then clearly its Brown. If you try and value both and pick somewhere in the middle, then you really have to think hard about it. I personally don't think either one would be a bad choice; yes, Brown has far more top talent on his roster, but he still had to get them to come to play for his team, and simply having a lot of top talent dosen't automatically mean you will charge to the top of the standings (see Quinn, David). There was also no guarantee that Brown was going to continue the long-running success at Chestnut Hill, and being the guy to follow a legend like York is not an enviable task and I think Brown deserves credit for that. On the flip-side, Barr has also built and coached a top-10 caliber team with a lot less of the top flight NHL talent, and brought a team expected to finish 9th in the conference all the way up to 3rd, and brought the team from 7 wins to 22 in just two years time. Also nothing to sneeze at, and if you really want to get nuanced and metaphorical, there's an argument for Barr based on that Maine is a tougher place to build a competitive program than Boston College.
In any event, I think either man would be a worthy winner. If it was anybody else I would be completely shocked, to the point I'm not even sure who the 3rd finalist would be. Probably Pandolfo, but I could see arguments for Carvel or even Steve Weidler as well.
EDIT: Now that I thought about it, the third finalist also could (should?) be Mike Souza in Durham, routinely picked to finish 10th and came in sixth and has had his team ranked for most of the season. I still don't think he should win it over Barr or Brown, but that's another guy in the mix to be at least a finalist.
In any event, I think either man would be a worthy winner. If it was anybody else I would be completely shocked, to the point I'm not even sure who the 3rd finalist would be. Probably Pandolfo, but I could see arguments for Carvel or even Steve Weidler as well.
EDIT: Now that I thought about it, the third finalist also could (should?) be Mike Souza in Durham, routinely picked to finish 10th and came in sixth and has had his team ranked for most of the season. I still don't think he should win it over Barr or Brown, but that's another guy in the mix to be at least a finalist.
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I was at the game and your description is accurate. UMass carried play much of the third period and were not rewarded. Maine had problems getting the puck out of their defensive zone and were out shot 16-4 in the third period. I'm not discrediting Maine in getting the win as they played excellent defense in front of Boija.
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