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UMaine - 2011-2012 Season Thread (cont) - Beating Back the Internuts ?

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Re: UMaine - 2011-2012 Season Thread (cont) - Beating Back the Internuts ?

Maine needs to root hard for UMass and Providence for two reasons...

The obvious: Fighting Lowell and Mack for seeding.

But UMass is hanging on to being a TUC by a thread, and PC has dropped out but is certainly on the bubble. Maintaining UMass, and gaining back PC as a TUC give us 4 wins in that category.

Seeing as losing Friday dropped us to 15th, and turning around with a win Saturday jumped us back to 10th....that's telltale of how close some of these RPIs and TUC records are....so Saturday is definitely a "Must Win" anyway... But one or both the minutemen or friars having productive weekends wouldn't hurt either.
 
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TripleE said:
Maine needs to root hard for UMass and Providence for two reasons...

The obvious: Fighting Lowell and Mack for seeding.

But UMass is hanging on to being a TUC by a thread, and PC has dropped out but is certainly on the bubble. Maintaining UMass, and gaining back PC as a TUC give us 4 wins in that category.

Seeing as losing Friday dropped us to 15th, and turning around with a win Saturday jumped us back to 10th....that's telltale of how close some of these RPIs and TUC records are....so Saturday is definitely a "Must Win" anyway... But one or both the minutemen or friars having productive weekends wouldn't hurt either.
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the drop to 15th and leap to 10th also coincided with UMass dropping out and back in... so you are 100% correct.
 
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TripleE said:
Maine needs to root hard for UMass and Providence for two reasons...

The obvious: Fighting Lowell and Mack for seeding.

But UMass is hanging on to being a TUC by a thread, and PC has dropped out but is certainly on the bubble. Maintaining UMass, and gaining back PC as a TUC give us 4 wins in that category.

Seeing as losing Friday dropped us to 15th, and turning around with a win Saturday jumped us back to 10th....that's telltale of how close some of these RPIs and TUC records are....so Saturday is definitely a "Must Win" anyway... But one or both the minutemen or friars having productive weekends wouldn't hurt either.
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We can cheer for other teams all we want, but won't make a difference. Maine needs to beat UNH, get fortunate with the UMass-MC weekend, and then beat MC in the quarters. Don't get to the Garden, and you don't get to the Tournament, simple as that!
 
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BobF said:
We can cheer for other teams all we want, but won't make a difference.
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I'm sure this isn't what you meant, but interpretting this straight up I could say: "Yup. And I can also cheer for MAINE all I want, and that won't make a difference, either."


Maine needs to beat UNH, get fortunate with the UMass-MC weekend, and then beat MC in the quarters.
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I'm hoping the first part was your overall take home....the old adage to just focus on ourselves, take care of our own business at hand without worrying about the other games, and we'll be fine. And while it's true that we're in position to get an NCAA birth without needing help, it doesn't change the fact that, win OR lose this Saturday, the results of those other games will directly effect our PWR and HEA Standings.

Don't get to the Garden, and you don't get to the Tournament, simple as that!
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I'm not saying its the glorious way of getting there, but 2007 anyone? Ended on a skid, got swept in the QFs at UMass, still got in. Winning this weekend, and in the QFs would cement it, but you can't say there isn't a scenario where they get in without it.
 
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TripleE said:
I'm hoping the first part was your overall take home....the old adage to just focus on ourselves, take care of our own business at hand without worrying about the other games, and we'll be fine. And while it's true that we're in position to get an NCAA birth without needing help, it doesn't change the fact that, win OR lose this Saturday, the results of those other games will directly effect our PWR and HEA Standings.
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I don't spend any time with prediction models, but only looking to the NCAA possibilities, I wonder what it would take (bare minimum) for Clarkson to make it above the TUC line? They play RPI in the first round and would play Cornell if they do move on.
 
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BoSox3066 said:
He's got him on the third line on their chart. Goes 9-24-21, 13-11-22 and then 18-12-19. I agree completely that York should roll him every chance he gets and I'll defer because I've only seen them 3 times but in those games he didn't seem too enthralled by that line. I don't know when he juggled either but it doesn't seem like Sit belongs. Again in limited viewing.
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Lines were juggled the weekend following the @Maine debacle.
9-0-0 since. You are probably right... Sit doesn't belong.
Fire Jerry!
 
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My take is that Abbott wins the HB if the season ends tonight. His only real competition right now is UMD's Connolly, who is faster, more athletic, and probably better in his own end... But the Hobey is usually about scoring, and Spence has a slight edge in that department.

All you naysayers aside, he's a very deserving candidate, without a doubt.

I'll pat myself on the back here to say that I first considered him a blue-chipper during a very dismal weekend at UMass during his freshman year. He was the only Maine player who seemed to "get it"... (That he's come so far since then has even forced The Warden to tip her Red Sox cap to my amazing nose for talent.)

Is he the best forward at Maine..? I think so.

I love the player Diamond has become- especially re: his taking so many fewer penalties- and Flynn has made great strides, too... But Abbott is the cream of the crop at present.(Yes, he cruises at times, a la Dave Capuano, and he probably needs to work on that.)

The Hobey is all about who's having the best year of anyone in the nation, and Spence is having it, IMO. He'd get my vote, even if I wasn't a Maine fan.
 
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irishfan85 said:
Why do you say that? Attendance seems to be at all-time high for BC. I mean I've seen close to capacity attendance even against Merrimack. The hoops team is begging people to attend games against ACC opponents.
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claver2010 said:
The AD doesn't know the first thing about hockey. He suggested hockey should be 2 30 minute periods for TV sake.
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In addition to claver's point, every time a men's lacrosse supporter or wrestling supporter asks why BC doesn't have a program, instead of answering Title IX, his go-to answer is that BC is losing over $1M/year on men's ice hockey (which is impossible, but without seeing the books, I won't get too much into hypotheticals), in hopes that people will stop supporting the team.

And since this is the Maine thread, I hope y'all destroy UNH and I also hope to see your team at the Garden in a couple weeks.
 
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AdamBC said:
-to answer is that BC is losing over $1M/year on men's ice hockey (which is impossible, but without seeing the books, I won't get too much into hypotheticals), in hopes that people will stop supporting the team.

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it also all depends on how they do the books.
I do not think that Conte is rented out for youth and pick up hockey, while other rinks are. I cannot imaging that NU is making a killing renting ice for $250 an hour, maybe 20 hours per weekend, but they are making something and I don't think BC is.

It was not that long ago that some council of American university presidents did a study and looked into which schools made money off of their athletic programs, and at the time only 2 actually made money. Arizona and one more (not even notre dame)
of course they are probably not counting the money donated because of the athletic programs.
football costs many millions to run, just staffing the grounds crew can be astronomical for many schools.

as with all statistics...:rolleyes
 
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Fishman'81 said:
My take is that Abbott wins the HB if the season ends tonight. His only real competition right now is UMD's Connolly, who is faster, more athletic, and probably better in his own end... But the Hobey is usually about scoring, and Spence has a slight edge in that department.

All you naysayers aside, he's a very deserving candidate, without a doubt.

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THere is a reason that they wait till the playoffs are well underway before determining who wins.
SPence had 17 points against UVM and Huntsville, a full 30% of his scoring. He is not going to face either of them in the playoffs.
perhaps if he can keep up his almost 1 point per game against the playoff teams, he will be fine... but he has to not only score points, he has to lead his team to meaningful victories.
There were not many hobey winners who didn't win at least a game in the NCAA playoffs.
 
Re: UMaine - 2011-2012 Season Thread (cont) - Beating Back the Internuts ?

The other thing is often times some of these awards become more a reflection on career recognition. If that is the case, Connolly's chances go up because of the NCAA Championship and consistently putting up huge numbers. The other thing that will hurt Flynn/Abbott is they might take votes away from each other. I see UMD's Connolly winning.
 
Re: UMaine - 2011-2012 Season Thread (cont) - Beating Back the Internuts ?

Honestly, while I'm rooting for either of Maine's nominees, I might go with the kid from Colgate. Passing is hugely important, but the fact remains that assists are an imperfect indicator. The inflation of assist 'scoring' means there's basically 2 assists for each goal, unless it's really, really impossible to justify a 2nd. Goals matter more. If there were someone close to him, than I might get into the whole ECAC angle . . . but there's nobody close to him.
 
Re: UMaine - 2011-2012 Season Thread (cont) - Beating Back the Internuts ?

Steve Abbott running for U.S. Senate? Now that Olympia Snowe has decided to retire, could Abbott be a republican candidate in the primary? Stay tuned.
 
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Runsub5 said:
Steve Abbott running for U.S. Senate? Now that Olympia Snowe has decided to retire, could Abbott be a republican candidate in the primary? Stay tuned.
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Selfishly that would suck but good for him if he thinks he has a shot. I doubt he will, he never lived in DC I don't believe,? he always kept a home in portland and was Collins right hand man in Maine
 
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amherstblackbear said:
Honestly, while I'm rooting for either of Maine's nominees, I might go with the kid from Colgate. Passing is hugely important, but the fact remains that assists are an imperfect indicator. The inflation of assist 'scoring' means there's basically 2 assists for each goal, unless it's really, really impossible to justify a 2nd. Goals matter more. If there were someone close to him, than I might get into the whole ECAC angle . . . but there's nobody close to him.
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If it is not Abbott or Flynn I hope it is Smith. As Shawn Walsh famously said you can't teach goal scoring!
 
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