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Trouble at Boston Marathon?
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bigblue_dl
Armed
Re: Trouble at Boston Marathon?
Ok, fine. But I get the .357 and the Weatherby.If he shows up in MSP.....I'm treating it like a zombie apocalypse, FYI.
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Deutsche Gopher Fan
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Re: Trouble at Boston Marathon?
Get the popcorn ready. CNN says they expect to be talking to the father in russia shortly.
Get the popcorn ready. CNN says they expect to be talking to the father in russia shortly.
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They say this kid is pretty intelligent. One of the tricks is to wait for an area to be searched and then make your way back into it to hide out there. Second-best is to find a good hiding place where no one will look and just wait for the search to pass you by. One certainly hopes that the authorities have these ploys in mind as they plan their searches!
If he does have an accomplice somewhere with a hidden underground bunker, he could hide out there for quite a while. It appears they are searching for a fugitive not for a stationary target.
This analogy may be way off-base...one time when we were kids playing hide-and-seek, I climbed a tree. No one once thought to look up and I could have remained hidden for hours had I wanted to, no matter how thoroughly the rest of them searched.
They say this kid is pretty intelligent. One of the tricks is to wait for an area to be searched and then make your way back into it to hide out there. Second-best is to find a good hiding place where no one will look and just wait for the search to pass you by. One certainly hopes that the authorities have these ploys in mind as they plan their searches!
If he does have an accomplice somewhere with a hidden underground bunker, he could hide out there for quite a while. It appears they are searching for a fugitive not for a stationary target.
This analogy may be way off-base...one time when we were kids playing hide-and-seek, I climbed a tree. No one once thought to look up and I could have remained hidden for hours had I wanted to, no matter how thoroughly the rest of them searched.
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Good catch. What about Angela Davis? I seem to recall a court room escapade where some of her pals had a shotgun taped to the neck of a judge. I'm guessing she's not in prison. Probably the Mumia Abu Jamal professor of politics somewhere.
Good catch. What about Angela Davis? I seem to recall a court room escapade where some of her pals had a shotgun taped to the neck of a judge. I'm guessing she's not in prison. Probably the Mumia Abu Jamal professor of politics somewhere.
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Your analogy may be off-base as well. One would hope that the police are better at hide-and-seek than your friends. (Apologies for the levity
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southpaw
Re: Trouble at Boston Marathon?
Some twitter reports from people listening to scanner say police have cuffed and arrested suspect #2.
Some twitter reports from people listening to scanner say police have cuffed and arrested suspect #2.
ericredaxe
Veteran
Hope so!
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Plus the bombing Monday was the obvious high point of whatever planning they or anyone else took part in. Even though it seems probable the Marathon bombing wasn't going to be the last we heard from them. Some scouting of the layout. Constructing crude bombs, etc. Recall that James Woods reported seeing some young dudes acting very strangely on a flight prior to 9/11 and reported it to the FBI. It was a rehearsal.
We also have a tendency to assume that if a criminal acted with cunning or elan in one situation, that he should do so throughout. Remember the "why would OJ have done this or that questions?" Suggesting the stupidity of whatever was being discussed obviously ruled him out as a suspect. Well, he had committed a vicious double homicide. And how does telling a stupid lie about how he cut his hand, for instance, argue against his having killed those two? When is it exactly he's supposed to start acting rationally?
Am I the only one who remembers a famous photo from St. Peter's Square taken moments after Ali Agca had shot JPII? It was a slender, young, well dressed man with long hair, running away, carrying a Browning semi-automatic. Of course, this was a KGB operation from start to finish. And even though the young man, IIRC, was never captured, it seemed probable his job was to whack Ali Agca. Which is the long way 'round to saying if there were "handlers" here, they wouldn't stop at killing their two "patsies" or allowing them to be killed.
My sense is they self-radicalized. Probably the older brother first. What is it Al Awlaki called his magazine? "Inspire?" The record would show he'd been pretty successful ('till we whacked him). And I'm pretty sure he's not the only one.
Again the rhetorical question: what is it that can turn young, seemingly well adjusted, seemingly assimilated young men into remorseless killers? We're not just talking about extreme political/religious views here (there's lots of that out there, in many flavors) but a willingness to blow a beautiful 8 year old boy to pieces (among others) in service to some. . .idea. Disturbing. Scary.
Plus the bombing Monday was the obvious high point of whatever planning they or anyone else took part in. Even though it seems probable the Marathon bombing wasn't going to be the last we heard from them. Some scouting of the layout. Constructing crude bombs, etc. Recall that James Woods reported seeing some young dudes acting very strangely on a flight prior to 9/11 and reported it to the FBI. It was a rehearsal.
We also have a tendency to assume that if a criminal acted with cunning or elan in one situation, that he should do so throughout. Remember the "why would OJ have done this or that questions?" Suggesting the stupidity of whatever was being discussed obviously ruled him out as a suspect. Well, he had committed a vicious double homicide. And how does telling a stupid lie about how he cut his hand, for instance, argue against his having killed those two? When is it exactly he's supposed to start acting rationally?
Am I the only one who remembers a famous photo from St. Peter's Square taken moments after Ali Agca had shot JPII? It was a slender, young, well dressed man with long hair, running away, carrying a Browning semi-automatic. Of course, this was a KGB operation from start to finish. And even though the young man, IIRC, was never captured, it seemed probable his job was to whack Ali Agca. Which is the long way 'round to saying if there were "handlers" here, they wouldn't stop at killing their two "patsies" or allowing them to be killed.
My sense is they self-radicalized. Probably the older brother first. What is it Al Awlaki called his magazine? "Inspire?" The record would show he'd been pretty successful ('till we whacked him). And I'm pretty sure he's not the only one.
Again the rhetorical question: what is it that can turn young, seemingly well adjusted, seemingly assimilated young men into remorseless killers? We're not just talking about extreme political/religious views here (there's lots of that out there, in many flavors) but a willingness to blow a beautiful 8 year old boy to pieces (among others) in service to some. . .idea. Disturbing. Scary.
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Twitch Boy
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Re: Trouble at Boston Marathon?
At this point you can't trust anything without about ten confirmed reports, live video, and a letter signed by a notary public.
At this point you can't trust anything without about ten confirmed reports, live video, and a letter signed by a notary public.
ExileOnDaytonStreet
Drunkard
Re: Trouble at Boston Marathon?
They're all in a tough spot. I can't exactly begrudge family members for not coming to grips with it in the face of everything going on.
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I sure hope you are right.
Another interesting variant on the question would be, suppose they do catch him alive and he starts "singing" immediately which causes them to realize that there are more people out there who pose a serious and imminent threat. Quite a dilemma: do you keep the accomplices in the dark, so they won't adjust what they are doing, thinking their secret is still safe? That leaves hundreds of thousands of people in lockdown even though the immediate fugitive has been caught.
On the other hand, it appears that releasing their pictures caused these two to panic, and it was their panic and flight that both interrupted whatever scheme they were working on and also led to the capture of one of them (and we hope both). So maybe you both tell people that the other one was caught but that the danger isn't past?
Your analogy may be off-base as well. One would hope that the police are better at hide-and-seek than your friends. (Apologies for the levity
I sure hope you are right.
Another interesting variant on the question would be, suppose they do catch him alive and he starts "singing" immediately which causes them to realize that there are more people out there who pose a serious and imminent threat. Quite a dilemma: do you keep the accomplices in the dark, so they won't adjust what they are doing, thinking their secret is still safe? That leaves hundreds of thousands of people in lockdown even though the immediate fugitive has been caught.
On the other hand, it appears that releasing their pictures caused these two to panic, and it was their panic and flight that both interrupted whatever scheme they were working on and also led to the capture of one of them (and we hope both). So maybe you both tell people that the other one was caught but that the danger isn't past?
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Priceless
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Re: Trouble at Boston Marathon?
NYPD has arrived in Boston to perform a very important function: Grill dinner for the heroes who have been going house-to-house all day.
NYPD has arrived in Boston to perform a very important function: Grill dinner for the heroes who have been going house-to-house all day.
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We're still looking for those "two black guys" who robbed the 7/11, no?
We're still looking for those "two black guys" who robbed the 7/11, no?
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