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Trouble at Boston Marathon?
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dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: Trouble at Boston Marathon?
Yeah, I'm not entirely sure what I think. I mean, the planning stages and execution of the plan were carried out with precision. This lack of planning on the back end is absolute amateur hour.
Yeah, I'm not entirely sure what I think. I mean, the planning stages and execution of the plan were carried out with precision. This lack of planning on the back end is absolute amateur hour.
bigblue_dl
Armed
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If they were being directed by a larger cell, I'm sure that the people directing everything didn't give a flying **** what happened to these guys after the bombing. They probably told them what to do to carry out the attack, and then didn't prepare them for what to do afterwards. Or they just stupidly thought that a pair of sunglasses and a baseball had would be enough to disguise them forever, and they could slip back into normal life.
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Well, given that many of the people who do these things are suicide bombers and what happens to them afterwards is that they are in microscopic bits, I'd guess that no, the handlers don't give much thought to what happens afterward.
bigblue_dl
Armed
Re: Trouble at Boston Marathon?
Knock Knock
Who's there
BPD
No
(wait one)
Knock Knock
Who's there
BPD
No
We have a warrant
No
Knock down the door.
I still think you need probable cause to do #3. If I was the BPD, I'd have a judge sitting in a command car with a stack of search warrants with the address waiting to be filled in + a signauture.
Knock Knock
Who's there
BPD
No
(wait one)
Knock Knock
Who's there
BPD
No
We have a warrant
No
Knock down the door.
MinnesotaNorthStar
Minding the gap
Re: Trouble at Boston Marathon?
Russian TV interviewed these guy's dad in Russia...he's going with the "they were set up" story too. Also said that those who did it and the police that shot the oldest were cowardice.
The uncle is the only sane person in this family.
Russian TV interviewed these guy's dad in Russia...he's going with the "they were set up" story too. Also said that those who did it and the police that shot the oldest were cowardice.
The uncle is the only sane person in this family.
MinnesotaNorthStar
Minding the gap
Re: Trouble at Boston Marathon?
They still need a warrant, I believe. Unless they know he's in a particular house...which they don't.
St. Clown
Ideas Posted are Likely Not My Own
Re: Trouble at Boston Marathon?
If you don't have a warrant, you need an immediate probable cause. Otherwise anything they find during the search is inadmissible in court. So, if they're only worried about catching these guys, then the police might see it as all the reason they need to trample the 4th Amendment. After all, they have everything needed to get these guys into custody. Anything found at a house would just be icing on the cake.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: Trouble at Boston Marathon?
It sounds like Jeff Bauman (the man who lost both of his legs and helped ID the suspects) didn't have proper health insurance and there may be a fund to help him. I'm not big on donations to individuals, but yeah, I'm reconsidering my position.
It sounds like Jeff Bauman (the man who lost both of his legs and helped ID the suspects) didn't have proper health insurance and there may be a fund to help him. I'm not big on donations to individuals, but yeah, I'm reconsidering my position.
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Agree. Regarding the handlers, though, the bombers, suicide or not, are disposable. In fact I presume that for the non-suicide variety, the handlers hope that they will be killed, because they don't want them talking to investigators.
bigblue_dl
Armed
Re: Trouble at Boston Marathon?
Jeez, I'm really not liking that this is taking so long...IF he did get out of the city, he could be a helluva long way from Boston by now.
Yeah, that would make sense. They sure as hell don't want one of these guys spilling it all to the FBI, taking the whole cell down. Though, that would be nice for, you know, humanity.
Jeez, I'm really not liking that this is taking so long...IF he did get out of the city, he could be a helluva long way from Boston by now.
Re: Trouble at Boston Marathon?
They can enter without warrant based on exigent circumstances.
They can enter without warrant based on exigent circumstances.
MinnesotaNorthStar
Minding the gap
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If he shows up in MSP.....I'm treating it like a zombie apocalypse, FYI.
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Me either. I thought they said he ran off on foot, so he cannot be far, can he?? Unless someone he knew gave him his car or he carjacked another one. Both entirely possible. Or they know, or have an idea, where he is and he has let them know there are other bombs around the city and will detonate them or something. Who the hell knows at this point. There hasn't been any comment from any law enforcement agency in a while. I don't know if that's good or bad. Mayne they're waiting for nightfall to make a move.
Me either. I thought they said he ran off on foot, so he cannot be far, can he?? Unless someone he knew gave him his car or he carjacked another one. Both entirely possible. Or they know, or have an idea, where he is and he has let them know there are other bombs around the city and will detonate them or something. Who the hell knows at this point. There hasn't been any comment from any law enforcement agency in a while. I don't know if that's good or bad. Mayne they're waiting for nightfall to make a move.
Re: Trouble at Boston Marathon?
I've been hearing that the law thinks he's still plugged in to the social media/etc, so I bet they aren't releasing anything, b/c people like us might say something and tip him off.
I've been hearing that the law thinks he's still plugged in to the social media/etc, so I bet they aren't releasing anything, b/c people like us might say something and tip him off.
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I think if I looked through a peephole or an upstairs window and saw a bunch of guys with guns pointing at the door that I wouldn't worry too much about a warrant, and I wouldn't want them even thinking that I might be uncooperative. With all the security, if someone comes to the front door, it ain't gonna be the fugitive.
They've done some interviews with folks who've been evacuated on local TV. Most of them said it was frightening opening the door with your child in your arms and seeing a bunch of guns pointed at you, but they understand what the authorities are doing.
I think if I looked through a peephole or an upstairs window and saw a bunch of guys with guns pointing at the door that I wouldn't worry too much about a warrant, and I wouldn't want them even thinking that I might be uncooperative. With all the security, if someone comes to the front door, it ain't gonna be the fugitive.
They've done some interviews with folks who've been evacuated on local TV. Most of them said it was frightening opening the door with your child in your arms and seeing a bunch of guns pointed at you, but they understand what the authorities are doing.
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