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Travel 4: All Around the World Same Song

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mookie1995 said:
Drink heavily and be asleep before wheels are up. You’ll do fine
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The traveling part is not the problem. It is trying to figure out which airline is a sh1tshow now and how not to spend 500$ more to get to the same place :p
 
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leswp1 said:
I remember that from when they were trying to get people to understand the 'bird flu' risks.

Trying to find the best flight to the USVI- St Croix. I am traveling very light because my GF is the same size and I can wear stuff out of her closet.

last time you all told me to use Matrix and the Skyscanner app. Any others I should try?
I know to avoid Spirit like the plague.

Delta looks cheapest. Any thoughts, words of wisdom?
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Delta is McDonalds: it does the job without style or comfort. TBH the whole experience of flying now is a goat rope, and anything short of first class is steerage on a slave transport, so make your plans based on your schedule and if you have connections allow more time for the hop than you think you need.

As an Over 50-American I can remember when flying, even peon class, was fun. What happened to flying is all you need to refute the myth that the market will naturally tend towards the delivery of greater value at lower cost.
 
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Kepler said:
Delta is McDonalds: it does the job without style or comfort. TBH the whole experience of flying now is a goat rope, and anything short of first class is steerage on a slave transport, so make your plans based on your schedule and if you have connections allow more time for the hop than you think you need.

As an Over 50-American I can remember when flying, even peon class, was fun. What happened to flying is all you need to refute the myth that the market will naturally tend towards the delivery of greater value at lower cost.
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This. And for a long time, if you had experience it helped you do things smoothly. I have flown domestic and international since the early 70s. I used to do it without much thought because I had a system that worked to make things go well. Now all bets are off.
 
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In cattle they’re all chitshows.

Fly business / first.
Or step on drunk and pass out.

—mookie knew what les was asking :)
 
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Kepler said:
Delta is McDonalds: it does the job without style or comfort. TBH the whole experience of flying now is a goat rope, and anything short of first class is steerage on a slave transport, so make your plans based on your schedule and if you have connections allow more time for the hop than you think you need.

As an Over 50-American I can remember when flying, even peon class, was fun. What happened to flying is all you need to refute the myth that the market will naturally tend towards the delivery of greater value at lower cost.
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That's up for debate. In the 70s when econ seats were roomier, real food was still served even in the back of the bus, and airlines were heavily regulated, the adjusted cost of an economy ticket in today's dollars was a luxury good on the level of flying business class to Europe today.

Economy class today is a commodified normal good offered by an oligopoly, like a Greyhound bus. However, it allows more people to see the world and 42% of Americans now have a passport (the highest number ever). Also, no more secondhand smoke!

EDIT: Also, I'm a little biased, but Delta is more like Chik Fil A. You hate a certain aspect of them (union busting, in their case), but you've eaten enough fast food that there's no question the product is still better than McNuggets (United/American), or a 7-11 hot dog (Spirit).
 
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US gradients -- (all chit)

delta
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jetblue
southwest
hawaiian
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american
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spirit
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witch's broomstick
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shot out of a cannon
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shot out of a cannon neked
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united

(mookie has not been on frontier or alaskan)
 
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I fly Alaska pretty much exclusively and don’t really have problems, though my experience as an Alaskan resident is undoubtedly different than your folks’.
 
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I fly Southwest primarily. Work pays for those flights, I reap the benefits with loyalty status so it's virtually never that I get stuck with a middle seat.

I'll fly Delta/Jet Blue/American if Southwest can't do it. United sucks, Spirit is a non-starter for me.
 
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When I worked for CMG I flew quite a bit (most of the 90's) on NWA business and sometimes FC. They were great in every way but the FAs were monsters in the US, wonderful especially when based out of Narita. Those were days when it was not uncommon to fly with the plain half-full or less. I can't remember the last flight I took anything less than 145% of capacity. ;)
 
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Kepler said:
Delta is McDonalds: it does the job without style or comfort. TBH the whole experience of flying now is a goat rope, and anything short of first class is steerage on a slave transport, so make your plans based on your schedule and if you have connections allow more time for the hop than you think you need.

As an Over 50-American I can remember when flying, even peon class, was fun. What happened to flying is all you need to refute the myth that the market will naturally tend towards the delivery of greater value at lower cost.
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I’m not sure the last time you flew delta, but on any longer flight I’ve so very greatly appreciated being on Delta. United sucks. ULCCs are a hard ‘No’. even the mid-tiers aren’t great.

Transcontinental flights with delta are where they really shine.
 
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Slap Shot said:
When I worked for CMG I flew quite a bit (most of the 90's) on NWA business and sometimes FC. They were great in every way but the FAs were monsters in the US, wonderful especially when based out of Narita. Those were days when it was not uncommon to fly with the plain half-full or less. I can't remember the last flight I took anything less than 145% of capacity. ;)
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You worked for chipotle?
 
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