The University of Vermont Official 2010-2011 Season Thread : Part 1

[HOCKEYGUY23]

***, what goes on in his head?!?!? If this is going to be a continuing problem, and it seems like maybe it already is, they should just cut ties with him right now and move on!

Its unreal what if anything goes on in his head. Can't blame an injury on missing as McCarthy was ggurt and he wasn't suspended. Funny though they played there most complete game with him not dressing. They were good on pk and pp looked like it had a pulse. 5 on 5 they have been very good. Rid the cancer.

 

[GreenCat]

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Its unreal what if anything goes on in his head. Can't blame an injury on missing as McCarthy was ggurt and he wasn't suspended. Funny though they played there most complete game with him not dressing. They were good on pk and pp looked like it had a pulse. 5 on 5 they have been very good. Rid the cancer.[/QUOTE

Cut him some slack. Wahs has put in some good years and had a lot of injuries. Some due to the "lay in front of the shooter" defensive strategy that Sneddon employs, particularly on the PP. While certainly required it shouldn't be your go to strategy. He may be looking at his future at this point and not willing to put up with what is going on behind the scenes that may be putting him at risk. All pure speculation of course.

 

[SteveF]

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Good game last night thou they took to many penalties which only cost them 1 goal so the PP totals were a push, if they can do that
more often they should start seeing more W's. Watched the game on Northeasterns service and they need to teach the camera guys how
to follow the puck, also the annoucers were a 9 on the homer scale. Sure you expect loyalty but they kept saying things like " Boy we should
be up 3 or 4 goals the way were playing if we could just hit all of these empty nets". Maybe he was referring to all the empty seats, same
in Lowell last night thou with 2 Umass teams playing against each other I dont see how you can have such a empty rink.

i was at the game; but missed the first period. most of the penalties were dumb too. i've never seen so many obvious interference penalties that had to be called when a guy without the puck got drilled by a body check. it was almost like some of the players couldnt locate the puck. overall, at times, it seemed NU was too concerned with the physical play and it caught up with them as they ran out of time. i dont think they should have been up by "several goals", but they probably had more and better chances as the game went on.

otherwise:
-thought Madore had a real strong game. the defense in front was pretty brutal, and he won the game for them. that was the guy i know.
-the stahlberg goal was a beauty
-each team had a hilarious moment where one player absolutely obliterated a teammate. NU's happened in front of their own bench and was relatively harmless, UVM's happened in their own zone on a 2 on 1 and resulted in Vermeesch clanking one off the post.
-i guess it is official, vermont doesnt trap anymore. surprising to see - dont know enough to comment on how effective the transition has been.

 

[HOCKEYGUY23]

Its unreal what if anything goes on in his head. Can't blame an injury on missing as McCarthy was hurt and he wasn't suspended. Funny though they played there most complete game with him not dressing. They were good on pk and pp looked like it had a pulse. 5 on 5 they have been very good. Rid the cancer.[/QUOTE

Cut him some slack. Wahs has put in some good years and had a lot of injuries. Some due to the "lay in front of the shooter" defensive strategy that Sneddon employs, particularly on the PP. While certainly required it shouldn't be your go to strategy. He may be looking at his future at this point and not willing to put up with what is going on behind the scenes that may be putting




him at risk. All pure speculation of course.[/

QUOTE]
I'm notcutting slack to someone who has no school for a week all he needs to do is his hockey obligations. And saying he doesn't like what's going on this year is merely saying its ok to quit on your team. I know many guys don't like what's going on this year but they aren't missing obligations. No slack being cut. He's being a dog.

 

[HOCKEYGUY23]

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August 17, 2006
UVM's Sneddon Agrees to Contract Extension
Vermont coach Kevin Sneddon has agreed to a contract extension through the 2010-2011, athletic director Bob Corran announced Thursday.

In three seasons with the Catamounts, Sneddon has guided the team to a 48-50-14 mark. Last year, UVM's first as a member of Hockey East, started the campaign with a school-best, seven-game winning streak en route to a 18-16-4 overall mark. In 2004-05, Sneddon's charges finished fourth in the ECAC Hockey League with a 21-14-4 record, Vermont's first 20-win effort since 1996-97.

Just a thought....is he leaving UVM after this year? His alma mater maybe calling.

 

[jcarter7669]

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Its unreal what if anything goes on in his head. Can't blame an injury on missing as McCarthy was ggurt and he wasn't suspended. Funny though they played there most complete game with him not dressing. Rid the cancer.

I'm just curious is there a source where this is coming from? A single post said very little and didn't even cite the article and somehow we got to "cancer"?

I'm notcutting slack to someone who has no school for a week all he needs to do is his hockey obligations. And saying he doesn't like what's going on this year is merely saying its ok to quit on your team. I know many guys don't like what's going on this year but they aren't missing obligations. No slack being cut. He's being a dog.

Again, was there an article somewhere...

August 17, 2006
UVM's Sneddon Agrees to Contract Extension

Just a thought....is he leaving UVM after this year? His alma mater maybe calling.

Doubtful. Sneddon has built this program up and I don't see him quiting on it after a single bad year. UVM isn't going to get rid of him, unless possible Jerry York is interested in the Job, and even then UVM should show Sneddon some Loyalty. As for Harvard why would he want to take a step back?

There seems to be a whole mountain of speculation going on here. Would be nice if in the future when people posted things of this nature that are quotes that they cite the article it came from so we can avoid such speculation.

 

[Martin St. Louis Fan]

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I think people are referring to this in Ted Ryan's Blog at the BFP.

http://blogs.burlingtonfreepress.com/oncampus/2011/01/14/hockey-cats-stacey-suspended/

 

[VermontFan]

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Rob Madore wins Hockey East Defensive Player of the Week:

http://www.hockeyeastonline.com/men/pres1011/201101/jan17wr.php

The next two home weekends (vs. UMass-Amherst this weekend, and Providence on Feb 4th/5th) provide a great opportunity to take points from the teams closest to us in the standings. We need at least 6 of those 8 points. Don't really know what to expect from the team.....pretty disappointing effort on saturday night vs. Northeastern after a nice win on Friday. Wonder if we'll see Stacey this weekend??

 

[J.D.]

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Doubtful. Sneddon has built this program up and I don't see him quiting on it after a single bad year. UVM isn't going to get rid of him, unless possible Jerry York is interested in the Job, and even then UVM should show Sneddon some Loyalty. As for Harvard why would he want to take a step back?

Obviously, a coach will almost never take a step back when he doesn't have to, but at the same time, he's a Harvard guy. If they were interested, you'd have to think Sneddon would at least listen.

 

[HOCKEYGUY23]

Obviously, a coach will almost never take a step back when he doesn't have to, but at the same time, he's a Harvard guy. If they were interested, you'd have to think Sneddon would at least listen.

The next obvious question is why hasn't an extension been offered or signed. Secondly is he disillusioned with UVM because they didn't build a rink yet? Third he is a character
guy yet with all the discipline problems with Stacey, Milo, McCarthy, Pacan, Stahlberg, Atkinson etc is he able to get character kids to UVM? I'm just pondering. Where there is smoke there is sometimes fire.

 

[jcarter7669]

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The next obvious question is why hasn't an extension been offered or signed. Secondly is he disillusioned with UVM because they didn't build a rink yet? Third he is a character
guy yet with all the discipline problems with Stacey, Milo, McCarthy, Pacan, Stahlberg, Atkinson etc is he able to get character kids to UVM? I'm just pondering. Where there is smoke there is sometimes fire.

What was wrong with Atkinson? And I don't think McCarthy and Stalberg was a character issue, sounds more like they broke a team issue, the fact that was a one time thing leads me to believe they had the "character" to not repeat the mistake made.

Seems like a lot of speculation going on here....

Oh and the reason a contact extension hasn't been ANNOUNCED may in part be due to the fact they almost always do that stuff in the offseason. Notice your own post quoting the press release indicating AUGUST.

 

[HOCKEYGUY23]

What was wrong with Atkinson? And I don't think McCarthy and Stalberg was a character issue, sounds more like they broke a team issue, the fact that was a one time thing leads me to believe they had the "character" to not repeat the mistake made.

Seems like a lot of speculation going on here....

Oh and the reason a contact extension hasn't been ANNOUNCED may in part be due to the fact they almost always do that stuff in the offseason. Notice your own post quoting th
press release indicating AUGUST.

Disagree on McCarthy and Stahlberg. Breaking a team rule is a character issue. Minor but still an issue.

On the contract I am speculating.

 

[jcarter7669]

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Disagree on McCarthy and Stahlberg. Breaking a team rule is a character issue. Minor but still an issue.

So you've never broken any rule whatsoever? Or is your character suspect?

It's not like they were tossing lawnmowers or making up lame rap songs on the internet. Well, actually it was never reported, maybe they were. Heck for all we know someone turned 21 and they all went to a bar and celebrated, breaking the rules and earning themselves a spot on the pine. I would hardly say that is indicitive of a character issue that would warrant criticizing Sneddon's judgement regarding his recruits...

 

[UVM Cat in Texas]

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Wahs Stacey, the Cat's leading scorer, has quit the UVM hockey team!!! Unreal the way this seems to keep happening. I agree with what was said in the BFP though--if he can't commit to the team 100%, it's best for everyone that he move on.

 

[Martin St. Louis Fan]

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Wow, a lot has happened since his glowing article in the BFP.

 

[thegutvt]

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Sneddon's commitment to the integrity of the program is impressive. Wahs BFP blog article

 

[Cat lover]

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So Wah's is staying in school but not playing hockey, does this mean he is paying for his classes himself?

 

[UVM Cat in Texas]

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The guy played 3+ years of hockey for the Cats. You'd think he'd be able to tough it out for another couple of months and end his career on a good note. Despite some of the positive things Sneddon said in the BFP article, I got the sense that he was really disappointed and frustrated. Perhaps he wouldn't have to deal with these issues quite as much it he were coaching at Harvard....

 

[jcarter7669]

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Very disappointing. I always liked Wahs and thought he was one of the best players on all of the teams over the last 3 years. Particularly because he wasn't flashy, he didn't standout, even on the ice you wouldn't notice him until he was shooting the puck in the net. These situations are always tough to get a read on though without knowing what is happening behind the scenes and going on with individual players.

I would certainly wish Wahs the best and good luck with his future.

As for Sneddon, the blog seems a bit uncharacteristic for Sneddon who is most of the time so calm and reserved. He is clearly upset with these behind the scenes issues that arise. While I applaud his stance and high expectations for all the teams, I am starting to wonder if they aren't realistic. I am all for high standards, team first, work hard, and being responsible for you actions, but we really are seeing an exodus of players and it aint to the NHL. Franklyn left for more playing time, Atkinson for reasons unknown at least to me, although I see he is playing hockey still. Milo and Pacan were clearly issues on and off the ice and those I can understand and get behind, it's not easy to dismiss top scorers, but its the quitting that's hard to swallow. And what's more, I think that it in part reflects the leadership in the locker room. Players are accountable to the team, and are held accountable by their team mates. When the coach has to ride guys to hold them accountable that's a sign that leadership is lacking from the Captains.

Not sure who, but someone needs to step up and be a Captain, not just leading by example, but leading in every facet. Sifers comes to mind....

Tough loss, we'll see if the Cats respond as they did when Milo left the team...

 

[Martin St. Louis Fan]

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I hope Zemgus Girgensons speaks English well, from what I have read and seen, he is a Sifers type of guy!
Not a time to get all doom and gloom. Exciting talent is on the way, and we surly have something to look forward to in the seasons to come!