The Ultimate CCHA Championship: Miami, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Michigan

[streaker]

Re: The Ultimate CCHA Championship: Miami, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Michigan

Down to 2.

Which will win- the offense that Michigan is playing or the defense that Notre Dame is playing? Certainly will come down to that.

Hard to say, but this team has dominated us all season. Would it be a statistical anomaly to turn the tables on Sunday?

 

[alfablue]

Re: The Ultimate CCHA Championship: Miami, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Michigan

Last CCHA game ever.

It's too bad it comes to an end, but so be it.

Back to my question yesterday, offense of michigan vs the defense of Notre dame.

And I think an interesting follow up- can michigan's defense keep them in a better position? Limit mistakes and it could be very interesting.

So

 

[Go Redskins]

Re: The Ultimate CCHA Championship: Miami, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Michigan

Go Gold football helmets

 

[alfablue]

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Quite the dominating play, Notre Dame- you sure earned that. And for your third CCHA title, you beat us again.

 

[MGoBlueHockey]

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I felt so bad for Racine. He was crying at the end when the ENG went in.

He played absolutely brilliant. Shades of Hunwick. All great things must come to an end.

New streak will start next year.

 

[Lawson_lunatic27]

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Excellent game Irish. Definitely an exciting game! Im glad to see you guys take the last title. Good luck in te NCAA tourney.

Michigan- You had an amazing run, great effort.

 

[Hockeybuckeye]

Re: The Ultimate CCHA Championship: Miami, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Michigan

I felt so bad for Racine. He was crying at the end when the ENG went in.

He played absolutely brilliant. Shades of Hunwick. All great things must come to an end.

New streak will start next year.

Racine had nothing to be ashamed about but I couldn't help but feel for the young man. Starting towards the bench as the puck turned over unable to get back in net in time was not his fault at all.

 

[Hockeybuckeye]

Re: The Ultimate CCHA Championship: Miami, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Michigan

I certainly had the time of my life this weekend.
I would have been estatic if Ohio State had won it but mingling and conversing with Ron Mason, Bill Selman, Commissioner Pletsch and many many other notables of college hockey made for one of the best experiences of my life. I hope I made some new friends and made a good example of being respectful to the fans and players of all who were there.
I will surely miss the CCHA and am deeply grateful for the memories and how well they treated us fans every year in Detroit!
I challenge the B1G to top it.

 

[davyd83]

Re: The Ultimate CCHA Championship: Miami, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Michigan

It really would have been an "Ultimate" championship had one of the smaller schools been one of the four, not just four who are bailing out. I would not be surprised to see a reborn CCHA in 4 or 5 years. What happens when teams like Western and Miami realize that UMD and CC don't put any more butts in their seats than did NMU or Ferris State, and that they could have played those teams with bus rides instead of flights. That being said, it really is a shame that the CCHA Tourney weekend has been blown up. From the Awards show to great hockey to the fact that every teams fans (except Alaska) could get to the Joe in a day's drive all mixed together to make this a special event. Now, attendance was down this final year thanks to a date screw up by Olympia which forced it to Saturday and Sunday afternoons instead of the night games.

 

[streaker]

Re: The Ultimate CCHA Championship: Miami, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Michigan

It really would have been an "Ultimate" championship had one of the smaller schools been one of the four, not just four who are bailing out.

I guess the simple answer to that is... they had their chance to win in the tournament and didn't. NMU/FSU/Alaska/WMU all lost to B1G schools. Miami isn't a big time D1 program in everything like OSU,U-M or ND is, but they'll hold their own in the NCHC. BG was there last season, didn't have the same magic against ND. LSSU got upset at home in the first round and MSU upset Alaska on the road. I would have thought those schools would have put up more of a fight.

Certainly there is enough credit to go around to the small programs- Ferris last year, Lake State in the late 80's early 90's, etc. but number of smaller programs actually doing something in the CCHA tourney has been very limited, especially in the semis and final. Maybe moving to the WCHA will afford those programs a better opportunity to win their conference.

 

[MGoBlueHockey]

It really would have been an "Ultimate" championship had one of the smaller schools been one of the four, not just four who are bailing out. I would not be surprised to see a reborn CCHA in 4 or 5 years. What happens when teams like Western and Miami realize that UMD and CC don't put any more butts in their seats than did NMU or Ferris State, and that they could have played those teams with bus rides instead of flights. That being said, it really is a shame that the CCHA Tourney weekend has been blown up. From the Awards show to great hockey to the fact that every teams fans (except Alaska) could get to the Joe in a day's drive all mixed together to make this a special event. Now, attendance was down this final year thanks to a date screw up by Olympia which forced it to Saturday and Sunday afternoons instead of the night games.

I think there is a better chance of the MAC starting a hockey league. Face it folks, the B1G is the first domino to fall. Sooner than later college hockey will look like all of D1 sports with leagues such as the SEC, Big 12, PAC-12.

 

[davyd83]

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I think there is a better chance of the MAC starting a hockey league. Face it folks, the B1G is the first domino to fall. Sooner than later college hockey will look like all of D1 sports with leagues such as the SEC, Big 12, PAC-12.

It's going to be hard to start MAC hockey with only 3 schools. And unless there are more Terry Pegulas out there, rampant NCAA hockey expansion is not on the Horizon.

 

[davyd83]

Re: The Ultimate CCHA Championship: Miami, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Michigan

I guess the simple answer to that is... they had their chance to win in the tournament and didn't. NMU/FSU/Alaska/WMU all lost to B1G schools. Miami isn't a big time D1 program in everything like OSU,U-M or ND is, but they'll hold their own in the NCHC. BG was there last season, didn't have the same magic against ND. LSSU got upset at home in the first round and MSU upset Alaska on the road. I would have thought those schools would have put up more of a fight.

Certainly there is enough credit to go around to the small programs- Ferris last year, Lake State in the late 80's early 90's, etc. but number of smaller programs actually doing something in the CCHA tourney has been very limited, especially in the semis and final. Maybe moving to the WCHA will afford those programs a better opportunity to win their conference.

I'm pretty aware of why none of the smaller schools were there and why the CCHA Tourney has been dominated by the big bucks schools. I just thought it would have been nice had one of them been able to make it. No doubt the Big 6-10-12-14 will be a successful league. I'm not as sure about the NCHC.

 

[alfablue]

Re: The Ultimate CCHA Championship: Miami, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Michigan

It really would have been an "Ultimate" championship had one of the smaller schools been one of the four, not just four who are bailing out. I would not be surprised to see a reborn CCHA in 4 or 5 years. What happens when teams like Western and Miami realize that UMD and CC don't put any more butts in their seats than did NMU or Ferris State, and that they could have played those teams with bus rides instead of flights. That being said, it really is a shame that the CCHA Tourney weekend has been blown up. From the Awards show to great hockey to the fact that every teams fans (except Alaska) could get to the Joe in a day's drive all mixed together to make this a special event. Now, attendance was down this final year thanks to a date screw up by Olympia which forced it to Saturday and Sunday afternoons instead of the night games.

While I understand what you are trying to say, having it come from you seems disingenuous- since Northern bailed to the WCHA before all the cards fell.

that being said- your assessment of the rest of the weekend, particularly it's potential is spot on. I always got onto any CCHA rep that they should sell the weekend as a vacation weekend, teaming up with visitDetroit.com and having a great package- drinking, eating, gambling, art, whatever. They never seemed to care. And then that "all conferece team"- we can have an entier thread how that was utterly lame. Just starting with 6 teams of a possible 17 being represented, and go from there. Outside of the game, the CCHA sure went out in a whimper. It sure could have been.

Oh, well, it's over now.

 

[davyd83]

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While I understand what you are trying to say, having it come from you seems disingenuous- since Northern bailed to the WCHA before all the cards fell.

NMU left after Michigan, MSU and OSU. Notre Dame, Western and Miami made their intentions clear, though their official join dates for their new leagues were later than NMU's application to the WCHA. I wouldn't find it wise to be the one to wait for the last move. Now to be fair, UM, MSU and OSU had no choice once Penn State arrived. That was a given, but had Miami and Notre Dame committed to carry on the CCHA, Western would have followed suit and you would still have a pretty solid league. IMHO, the NCHC will be the interesting league to watch. I'm not sure their future is as bright as they think. Also interesting to note that UM's Don Canham was one of those pushing for them to join the league along with MSU, Tech and Northern to contain travel costs and have a nice bus league. Times have definitely changed. Nice finish to the season for your guys. saw them 3 times in the last 3 weeks and that was a much stronger unit than they were in November. Now if they can hang on to Trouba and Merrill...

 

[alfablue]

Re: The Ultimate CCHA Championship: Miami, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Michigan

NMU left after Michigan, MSU and OSU. Notre Dame, Western and Miami made their intentions clear, though their official join dates for their new leagues were later than NMU's application to the WCHA. I wouldn't find it wise to be the one to wait for the last move. Now to be fair, UM, MSU and OSU had no choice once Penn State arrived. That was a given, but had Miami and Notre Dame committed to carry on the CCHA, Western would have followed suit and you would still have a pretty solid league. IMHO, the NCHC will be the interesting league to watch. I'm not sure their future is as bright as they think. Also interesting to note that UM's Don Canham was one of those pushing for them to join the league along with MSU, Tech and Northern to contain travel costs and have a nice bus league. Times have definitely changed. Nice finish to the season for your guys. saw them 3 times in the last 3 weeks and that was a much stronger unit than they were in November. Now if they can hang on to Trouba and Merrill...

I know the timing, and I'm not saying anything about us (but I really wished the B1G teams did better this year.... but that's just me). My point is that your want would come better from someone from Ferris, BG, etc. Not from someone who's team didn't do much to keep what was left together. Moreso with so many of your fan base wanting to go back to the WCHA a long time ago. Comes out hollow. If Hammer posted the same thing... well.

 

[davyd83]

I know the timing, and I'm not saying anything about us (but I really wished the B1G teams did better this year.... but that's just me). My point is that your want would come better from someone from Ferris, BG, etc. Not from someone who's team didn't do much to keep what was left together. Moreso with so many of your fan base wanting to go back to the WCHA a long time ago. Comes out hollow. If Hammer posted the same thing... well.

Ah, so the team in my market lessens my personal opinions. Northern had the opportunity to jump three years ago. They elected to stay. So the the WCHA invited Omaha to join Bemidji. Keep it together? What was left? Five teams including NMU. Maybe invite UAH to join? Ask Bill Martin and Red what their thoughts were on inviting UAH when the CHA ended. How about Wayne State? Hollow??? Hollow is Red & Jackson talking about how they wish it could have all stayed together.

 

[alfablue]

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Ah, so the team in my market lessens my personal opinions. Northern had the opportunity to jump three years ago. They elected to stay. So the the WCHA invited Omaha to join Bemidji. Keep it together? What was left? Five teams including NMU. Maybe invite UAH to join? Ask Bill Martin and Red what their thoughts were on inviting UAH when the CHA ended. How about Wayne State? Hollow??? Hollow is Red & Jackson talking about how they wish it could have all stayed together.

Like I said, it makes it kind of hollow. It's about my preception of your opinion. How about ironic that you want a small school to "represent" when your team bailed before it collapsed? What you are saying is that all 4 teams that were there had bailed. How is that different than what NMU did?

Pot, this is kettle- you have things in common.

Sorry if you can't seem to deal with that.

 

[davyd83]

Like I said, it makes it kind of hollow. It's about my preception of your opinion. How about ironic that you want a small school to "represent" when your team bailed before it collapsed? What you are saying is that all 4 teams that were there had bailed. How is that different than what NMU did?

Pot, this is kettle- you have things in common.

Sorry if you can't seem to deal with that.

What was left to cling to? After the first six left, there was a five team league. What was left to cling to. Every team looked at its options. Some inquired with the WCHA as well. Another explored the NCHC. The only difference between them and NMU was that NMU was the first to be invited and the first to accept. Had Fairbanks and LSSU been invited at the same time as NMU, they would have gone too. Had Bowling Green been invited to go with MAC-mates Miami and Western, they would have gone.

 

[Biddco]

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I think there is a better chance of the MAC starting a hockey league. Face it folks, the B1G is the first domino to fall. Sooner than later college hockey will look like all of D1 sports with leagues such as the SEC, Big 12, PAC-12.

So like in the year 3000?