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The Top 25 College Hockey Teams of the NCAA Era

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vizoroo said:
FS23, I enjoy this site and appreciate the work you've done.
And I know I will appreciate it even more when 3 or 4 DU teams show up at or near the top of the list.:)
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Thank you. Unfortunately, if it keeps going in this direction, I am going to delete this thread. It has completely lost the intended purpose that it had.
 
FreshFish said:
Aha, a grammatical purist.

If I may explicate by adding appropriate modifiers while remaining true to the meaning and intent of the original?

In my initial response, I noticed that he said he did not want to use conference schedules, that he only wanted to include tournament performance in his formula. He gave various examples, and every one of them had in common the same consideration: each tournament winning team would have the same score.

While that is fine if you are ranking programs, it is not at all useful if you are ranking individual teams. I then asked him how he would address that meta-consideration, if you will.

He then responded in an evasive and complaining manner. And then you are right, I flamed him. Yes, I did get carried away...but only the second time.
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What? That made even less sense. You told him that if he didn't like it, he should suggest his own formula. I pointed out where he had, in fact, provided a formula, and that you should actually read what he said.

You said you did, but if you had, you wouldn't (or shouldn't) have chastised him for not providing his own formula.

That is not grammatical nitpicking. That's Logic 101.
 
Fighting Sioux 23 said:
Thank you. Unfortunately, if it keeps going in this direction, I am going to delete this thread. It has completely lost the intended purpose that it had.
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I'll let it go and get out of this thread. But if you do a "Greatest Programs of ALL-TIME" thread again, you better be crystal clear and HONEST about your approach. I would suggest keeping everything to "Best of the NCAA Era", because you clearly have no appreciation or understanding of the era beforehand.

And if you say you were and/or do, we're back to square one because you clearly were not and do not.
 
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JDUBBS1280 said:
I'll let it go and get out of this thread. But if you do a "Greatest Programs of ALL-TIME" thread again, you better be crystal clear and HONEST about your approach. I would suggest keeping everything to "Best of the NCAA Era", because you clearly have no appreciation or understanding of the era beforehand.

And if you say you were and/or do, we're back to square one because you clearly were not and do not.
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I included everything in the greatest program thread, it really is that simple. If you can't handle that, then that is your problem. I never lied to you. I'm tired of defending myself against someone who is childish and immature in the face of news that they may not agree with.
 
Fighting Sioux 23 said:
I included everything in the greatest program thread, it really is that simple. If you can't handle that, then that is your problem. I never lied to you. I'm tired of defending myself against someone who is childish and immature in the face of news that they may not agree with.
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Back to square one. Where do we begin?

And if you don't want your rankings criticized, then don't post them on a public forum. I handled this nicely the first time around, but you just want to lie and cry foul. I can do this for as long as you'd like. Your choice.
 
Fighting Sioux 23 said:
We don't. I'm not going to argue with you anymore.
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So, you included pre-NCAA data in your rankings, but you CLEARLY (by your comments) don't value hockey played in that era as much as hockey played in the NCAA Era. How is it not fair to question that?

Again, if you can't handle the criticism, then start your own message board and restrict who can comment.
 
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LynahFan said:
Does it have to do with hockey? I'd say there's a fair chance we're interested! :D
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:p:D:D

I can get to working on it. There are also a couple of other things that I am working on with College Hockey Weekly that are pretty interesting as well.
 
Re: The Top 25 College Hockey Teams of the NCAA Era

By the way, FS23, you know it really isn't that tough to design and maintain your own website, right? For free.

Not to sound critical, but the website you are currently working with looks poorly designed, poorly maintained, and it sounds like you don't have a lot of liberties to do things on your own.

Why don't you create your own site? It wouldn't take long to do, or require much time, know-how to maintain, and you would have more liberty to do what you want.

Just a suggestion.

Check out a site like webs.com if you're interested.
 
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JDUBBS1280 said:
By the way, FS23, you know it really isn't that tough to design and maintain your own website, right? For free.

Not to sound critical, but the website you are currently working with looks poorly designed, poorly maintained, and it sounds like you don't have a lot of liberties to do things on your own.

Why don't you create your own site? It wouldn't take long to do, or require much time, know-how to maintain, and you would have more liberty to do what you want.

Just a suggestion.

Check out a site like webs.com if you're interested.
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I don't have the time to maintain a website at this point in my life, nor do I know the first thing about maintaining a website. You are definitely not the first person to comment on the look of the site (I think it is fine for its purpose), but the guy maintaining it (a gopher fan by the way) is doing it for free. Also, the guys running the site are pretty much broke, so there will probably be advertisements built into the site soon enough...which will suck. That being said, they are friends of mine, so I'm not going to leave them high and dry when they've invested money into the project based on my commitment to provide input and historical analysis contributions. Now, you probably think I'm lying, but I'm not the kind of guy to give my word to someone and then screw them over. We've also come up with a lot of really cool ideas that will probably happen after this list is finished, so I'm excited about being a part of that as well.
 
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FS23 - you don't owe anyone an explanation beyond what you've provided. I appreciate the effort as something for food for thought and as a fun topic of conversation. Thanks man.
 
Slap Shot said:
FS23 - you don't owe anyone an explanation beyond what you've provided. I appreciate the effort as something for food for thought and as a fun topic of conversation. Thanks man.
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Has nothing to do with his rankings, and each time people get involved and make this argument about all the things it's not, it just starts things up again and makes things worse.

If you want the argument to stop, then I suggest everyone stop, because I have no qualms about carrying this on for weeks.
 
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Slap Shot said:
FS23 - you don't owe anyone an explanation beyond what you've provided. I appreciate the effort as something for food for thought and as a fun topic of conversation. Thanks man.
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Thank you. You are exactly right, the intended purpose of the thread was to have fun and talk about the teams that are on the list.

It is going to be about a week before #14 gets revealed, and I would like to hear some cool stories about the 1966-1967 Cornell squad from those of you who remember that squad.
 
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JDUBBS1280 said:
If you want the argument to stop, then I suggest everyone stop, because I have no qualms about carrying this on for weeks.
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You use this argument in every thread you infect, as if to suggest that should some lunatic run into the middle of a busy intersection everyone else would be able to just ignore him. The topic is supposed to be fun and all you have done is suck the fun right out of it. If "you have no qualms about carrying this for weeks" that's pretty pathetic.
 
Re: The Top 25 College Hockey Teams of the NCAA Era

Slap Shot said:
You use this argument in every thread you infect, as if to suggest that should some lunatic run into the middle of a busy intersection everyone else would be able to just ignore him. The topic is supposed to be fun and all you have done is suck the fun right out of it. If "you have no qualms about carrying this for weeks" that's pretty pathetic.
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So, am I this bad? I know I don't let things go but I don't think I've ever carried it this far. Just curious.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
So, am I this bad? I know I don't let things go but I don't think I've ever carried it this far. Just curious.
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Not remotely close - I don't think I've ever cringed from reading one of your posts, but then again, I've probably only seen about 20k or so of them since I don't join chat or association threads... :)
 
Re: The Top 25 College Hockey Teams of the NCAA Era

We discussed earlier the dominance of Ken Dryden, and here are some of his stats from that '66-'67 squad...

.945 Save Percentage (4th Best of All-time)
1.46 Goals Against Average (6th Best of All-time)
26-0-1 (.981) (2nd Best of All-time)

IMO, it's Dryden's '67 season, Ryan Miller's '01 season (31-5-4, 1.32 GAA, .950 SV%), or Jimmy Howard's '04 season (14-4-3, 1.19 GAA, .956 SV%) as the greatest ever season for a goalie.
 
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