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The States : red states in a race to the bottom

Oklahoma state superintendent declares Al Oklahoma schools need to incorporate the Bible into school curriculum

that high standard of living in ok really results in some wonderful ideas.
 
That misses the big picture. Money given out was spent locally including on things such as housing and paying for goods and services, in addition it increased the employment rate for those that participated. It also noted that, 'They also experienced fewer emergency room visits, nights spent in a hospital or a temporary shelter, and jail stays" have additional benefits that aren't easily measured monetarily.

Most of the participants were likely already receiving various forms of government assistance, and the long-term benefits of getting people out of very dire circumstances is better for society at large. It's one of the reasons why we fund public education just for starters.

I'm... not sure about this study. It seems flawed at best. Between the three groups - $1k/mo, $50/mo, and $6.5k lump sum + $500/mo - there wasn't a real difference between the groups, which tells me that giving $50/mo, $500/mo, and $1k/mo doesn't really matter, which tells me this isn't really effective or it was just too small of a study.

Looking at the individual service groups that were tracked, drug and alcohol treatment costs actually went up for the $50/mo and the lump sum was nearly 3x more beneficial than $1k/mo. Jail time was reduced by $75k for the $50/mo group where the $1k/mo group was only reduced by $10k. And reduction in shelter visits was nearly identical for all three groups.

I also couldn't find any description of their control. The word "control" was used once in the entire quantitative full report.
Moreover, all three groups in this study followed a nearly identical path for probability of being unhoused over the course of a year. It's really kind of damning that they didn't show a control group of people who didn't receive any payment during that same period. Or for any of the other factors being studied.....

While I think that UBI is a good thing, this isn't great in terms of findings... In fact, it seems to indicate that UBI doesn't much matter. Or maybe the conclusion is that $1k/month isn't at that critical threshold to matter.

And I think there are better places to spend $9M than on something that only reduced costs by $600k between all three groups combined. Which is another red flag to me. Why combine them? That doesn't make much sense to me.
 
Man, the more i think about it, the more I hate this study... How do you come to the conclusion that UBI is useful when the difference between almost no benefit and the maximum benefit is insignificant?
 
How do you conduct a study without a control group?? Was this done by the same people who insisted horse dewormer was curing people of covid????

Exactly. The only time they used "control" was in this paragraph:
This research employs a mixed-methods randomized controlled trial design. Participants were randomly assigned to one of three payment groups (described in the "Randomization" section of this report). Participants in all three payment groups were invited to provide qualitative and quantitative data through various research activities. The research in this report focuses primarily on quantitative data.

There was zero discussion of how they managed the control. Or even defined it. WHAT???
 
Ok, so here's their description of the control (https://www.denverbasicincomeproject...ods_public.pdf)

The Group C ($50/mo) was considered their control. WHich... like... is even more embarrassing because their control group improved as much as the other two groups. Holy shit, and then they showed that the control group improving was "statistically significant" for the improvement. omg, this is so embarrassing.

You're supposed to show that the study groups were statistically different from control.
 
Much of Houston out of power during heat wave from a cat 1.

they have to track outages with the whataburger app as power company doesn’t have one

I hope they enjoy this. And then millions of the city dwellers won’t bother voting this fall
 
Driving through Barry County in Michigan... lots of signs pledging allegiance to the Orange Man and the Sheriff Who's Pledged Undying Fealty to the Orange Man.
 
An Evangelical Pastor from Alaska has been banned from Alaska Airlines after assaulting his wife because she got upgraded and he didnt.
 
For a second I thought you were referring to this chud, whose Trump shrine I finally drove by on my way to Ludington last winter. However, that is up in Branch Township.

Barry County is Dar Leaf territory. Dar Leaf, you might remember, is the same chud who's spent most of his time railing against C-19 precautions and devoting resources to overturning the 2020 election.
 
Then I go to Newaygo County and Jimmy's Roadhouse; Jimmy's Roadhouse only became known because they stayed open in defiance of C-19 precautions. And passing Jimmy's every time I go to White Cloud... it's hard to tell if Jimmy should be laughed at, put on an FBI watchlist, or both.
 
An Evangelical Pastor from Alaska has been banned from Alaska Airlines after assaulting his wife because she got upgraded and he didnt.
Sounds like he's from Virginia and was travelling to Alaska.

Also, Alaska is down to one federal judge because one just resigned due to sexual misconduct (three guesses at who appointed him...).
 
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