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The States: At Least Michigan is Better Than Indiana

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aparch said:
So if you found out your employer had a large contract to provide items for Trump's Border Children Summer Camps, and items for those camps routinely moved through your warehouse, you'd accept being "a part of the problem?" Or would you just find another job, because there are plenty of similar jobs in the area you could work at...



And a sixteen year old working at Chick-Fil-A isn't "accepting" of the beliefs of the owner. They're working a shi**y minimum wage job for spending money.
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Oh no. The 16 year old is complicit. No doubt.
 
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aparch said:
So if you found out your employer had a large contract to provide items for Trump's Border Children Summer Camps, and items for those camps routinely moved through your warehouse, you'd accept being "a part of the problem?" Or would you just find another job, because there are plenty of similar jobs in the area you could work at...



And a sixteen year old working at Chick-Fil-A isn't "accepting" of the beliefs of the owner. They're working a shi**y minimum wage job for spending money.
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If possible, I'd step back and re-think my employment. Again, sometimes there is little choice, and a begrudging agreement, to feed the family.

I try my best to give my business to similar-valued businesses, and the same goes for whom I work for.
 
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Let's go deeper. Scooby, you said fam first, otherwise you'd move out of this country. I get it. I truly do. you chose your family over personal choice. While it means you are adding to the issues you chose what is best for your family. It sucks, and it inconveniences you, and that is the price you are willing to pay. And btw, choosing fam first is a thing to admire.
 
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The Rube said:
Let's go deeper. Scooby, you said fam first, otherwise you'd move out of this country. I get it. I truly do. you chose your family over personal choice. While it means you are adding to the issues you chose what is best for your family. It sucks, and it inconveniences you, and that is the price you are willing to pay. And btw, choosing fam first is a thing to admire.
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That and I'm 50 years old. It's not easy changing countries for anybody anywhere on the planet. Don't think it is. That being said if I were 18-22 again I'd be out of here.
 
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The Rube said:
It's not bs. By being employed by (insert company) you are not going against whatever practices they do. You are part of it.
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List scenarios where being employed and doing your job to the letter of the law (legally) would still make an employee not, "completely innocent".
 
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I get Rube's point. Being happy to collect a paycheck from an employer that you know is ruining the environment where you live makes you somewhat culpable. Sort of like how we blame the good Germans that did nothing when they saw what was going on.

Now, if these people are ignorant enough to believe that mining is not bad for the environment, or if the employer claims to be following all the regulations and not harming the environment I'd place blame only on the company (and regulators/lack of regulation).
 
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wolverineTrumpet said:
I get Rube's point. Being happy to collect a paycheck from an employer that you know is ruining the environment where you live makes you somewhat culpable. Sort of like how we blame the good Germans that did nothing when they saw what was going on.

Now, if these people are ignorant enough to believe that mining is not bad for the environment, or if the employer claims to be following all the regulations and not harming the environment I'd place blame only on the company (and regulators/lack of regulation).
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Sure. The free market solves all of our problems. That's why all those folks who lost jobs when their coal plant shut down, or the car plant shut down easily found replacement jobs. Free market. And, that's why Flint Michigan has always had clean water. Free market. And that's why once we had one oil spill we never had another oil spill. Free market.

And for crying out loud, this myth about wage disparity. The private sector is already solving it. Look at how those stock buybacks with the last tax cut fixed all that stuff.
 
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That seems like a bizarre response to what wt posted...
 
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wolverineTrumpet said:
Being happy to collect a paycheck from an employer that you know is ruining the environment where you live makes you somewhat culpable.
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Their wells are poisoned. They have to waste quite a bit of the money they make on bottled water to drink/cook with. As evidenced by the original article I posted, I don't think most of them are very happy about it.

Their employer (and not everyone in the area is employed by this mine, I guarantee you) only **allegedly** follows the regulations they are required to follow. Which in WVa, thanks to lobbying, are much slimmer than they should be.
 
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Deutsche Gopher Fan said:
Alabama paper editorial calls for the Klan to come back.

https://www.montgomeryadvertiser.co...-democrat-reporter-goodloe-sutton/2910436002/

“We'll get the hemp ropes out, loop them over a tall limb and hang all of them," Sutton said.
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From The Hill write up:

The newspaper publisher told the Advertiser that he was “not calling for the lynchings of Americans.”

“These are socialist-communists we're talking about,” he continued.

Asked if the KKK was a "racist and violent organization," Sutton compared the KKK to the NAACP, according to the paper.

"A violent organization? Well, they didn't kill but a few people," Sutton claimed. "The Klan wasn't violent until they needed to be."
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Who knew lynchings were non-violent...
 
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