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The New WCHA 3, Revenge of the Sieve (2013-14)

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manurespreader said:
I find it hard to believe that Mr. Gordon would make this stuff up from scratch. I guess it's possible, but what would be the point...
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Here's the point. Prior to last week nobody outside of NW Ohio had ever heard of him, and few had ever heard of his paper. Now he's being quoted all over the place as an expert with access to inside dope.

The article was his OPINION. Nothing more.

FWIW, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see some type of realignment 4-5 years down the road. Sort of an aftershock/correction to the recent major changes...and in that regard I concur with Mr. Gordon's opinion. I can and do say, however, that I don't believe anybody in any position of authority here at BG is conducting the type of clandestine negotiations suggested by several posts on this thread.
 
bigblue_dl said:
You need to fire your travel agent:
http://matrix.itasoftware.com/view/details?session=5c3b29c6-cbc4-4408-8b57-92695f7b61a1

I cut 4 hours off your return trip with one ITA Matrix search...

edit: another quick search shows that if you fly in/out of Iron Mountain, you can get there in 9hrs 41min in flight+layover time. You can get back in 9hrs 42min of flight+layover time.
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You didn't search the flights that were available at the time. Price is also a consideration. Now take away 25 seats on the flight for a hockey team and personnel, and you have a whole different scenario.
 
bigblue_dl said:
You need to fire your travel agent:
http://matrix.itasoftware.com/view/details?session=5c3b29c6-cbc4-4408-8b57-92695f7b61a1

I cut 4 hours off your return trip with one ITA Matrix search...

edit: another quick search shows that if you fly in/out of Iron Mountain, you can get there in 9hrs 41min in flight+layover time. You can get back in 9hrs 42min of flight+layover time.
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The 9:42 is about right for flight time now you add 2-3 in layovers, and the hour and a half ride to Iron Mountain and waiting for bags at the Iron Mountain airport, and you're still in the 13-14 hour travel time. My time Marquette to Anchorage will be approximately 9 hours in the air, 2 hours at OHare, 3 hours at SeaTac and an hour and a half home to airport, waiting for bags and airport to hotel. And there you have 15 1/2 hours. Flight time difference from Iron Mountain is negligible. And then you add the hour and a half to 1:45 drive to get there and your travel time actually increases.
 
davyd83 said:
The 9:42 is about right for flight time now you add 2-3 in layovers, and the hour and a half ride to Iron Mountain and waiting for bags at the Iron Mountain airport, and you're still in the 13-14 hour travel time. My time Marquette to Anchorage will be approximately 9 hours in the air, 2 hours at OHare, 3 hours at SeaTac and an hour and a half home to airport, waiting for bags and airport to hotel. And there you have 15 1/2 hours. Flight time difference from Iron Mountain is negligible. And then you add the hour and a half to 1:45 drive to get there and your travel time actually increases.
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He did say the 9:42 is with layover time.

Out of curiosity, can you guys fly to MSP? Getting to MSP can cut off a huge chunk of time as Delta has a daily MSP - ANC flight (it might even be twice daily).
 
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We are doing MKE > MSP > ANC on our way up in a few weeks. That's going to be a nice long flight...
 
davyd83 said:
You didn't search the flights that were available at the time. Price is also a consideration. Now take away 25 seats on the flight for a hockey team and personnel, and you have a whole different scenario.
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Wait, what? Didn't you book your own flight this time? Don't go pulling that "25 seats" when you didn't fly with the team.
 
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Jimjamesak said:
Eh MSP to ANC isn't bad, about 6 hours. Granted any flight that I take that isn't to Fairbanks is 3+ hours...
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Usually when I fly over 5 hours I am in Europe. :D Seeing as how I start all my flights in the middle of the country I'm a bit spoiled there...
 
Jimjamesak said:
Eh MSP to ANC isn't bad, about 6 hours. Granted any flight that I take that isn't to Fairbanks is 3+ hours...
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Definitely easier than going through SEA. Seattle is, geographically, a lousy connection point for anyone going from AK to the upper Midwest or east coast.
 
Squarebanks said:
Definitely easier than going through SEA. Seattle is, geographically, a lousy connection point for anyone going from AK to the upper Midwest or east coast.
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Well, for the upper Midwest it is lousy but it depends on where on the East Coast you're going to/from.
 
stuckinwi said:
Usually when I fly over 5 hours I am in Europe. :D Seeing as how I start all my flights in the middle of the country I'm a bit spoiled there...
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It's only been in the last 10 years or so that the ANC - SEA flights got under 3 hours. To me, going ANC to SEA or SEA to ANC is easy, it's a commuter flight. Heck I know SeaTac better than people from Seattle! I know people that live in Anchorage and have Seahawks season tickets! Flying 3-5 hours is nothing for people up here.

And that's why I don't get in these arguments about travel, I can't make people understand that attitude.
 
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Why are we arguing about Dave's transit times?

It took UAH about 17 hours to get to Anchorage. HSV-DEN-ORD-SEA-ANC, I think — I know the first three for sure. Why the jag to Denver? That's probably a United flight. Last I checked, they flew the biggest jets out of HSV.

GFM <— cueing the "travel sucks to Huntsville, why are they in the league again?" posts.
 
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gfmorris said:
Why are we arguing about Dave's transit times?

It took UAH about 17 hours to get to Anchorage. HSV-DEN-ORD-SEA-ANC, I think — I know the first three for sure. Why the jag to Denver? That's probably a United flight. Last I checked, they flew the biggest jets out of HSV.

GFM <— cueing the "travel sucks to Huntsville, why are they in the league again?" posts.
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Im looking forward to Huntsville
 
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aparch said:
Wait, what? Didn't you book your own flight this time? Don't go pulling that "25 seats" when you didn't fly with the team.
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It does affect the booking options and costs from MQT. Once the team books 25 of the 45 or so seats on that flight there is drastic change in price and availability. Oh, and I did fly out of FAI with the team. And there was a nice up charge for it.
 
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Is geography not a required course down there?

gfmorris said:
Why are we arguing about Dave's transit times?

It took UAH about 17 hours to get to Anchorage. HSV-DEN-ORD-SEA-ANC, I think — I know the first three for sure. Why the jag to Denver? That's probably a United flight. Last I checked, they flew the biggest jets out of HSV.

GFM <— cueing the "travel sucks to Huntsville, why are they in the league again?" posts.
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Re: The New WCHA 3, Revenge of the Sieve (2013-14)

I had a PDX-DEN-SEA-FAI flight once. I took it because for whatever reason it saved me about $100. I have no idea why, it was all on Alaska Airlines, so there wasn't some hub-city thing going on. Another time I was looking for flights between Fairbanks and Portland, and saw one with a layover in Los Angeles. I opted to skip that one, especially since the ticket was over $2000 :p

Airlines are weird.
 
AKJD said:
I had a PDX-DEN-SEA-FAI flight once. I took it because for whatever reason it saved me about $100. I have no idea why, it was all on Alaska Airlines, so there wasn't some hub-city thing going on. Another time I was looking for flights between Fairbanks and Portland, and saw one with a layover in Los Angeles. I opted to skip that one, especially since the ticket was over $2000 :p

Airlines are weird.
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One of my options on the return flight from FAI to MQT was thru SEA-JFK-ORD. Yeah New York. If the SEA-ORD is full, you can really get a runaround.
 
Re: The New WCHA 3, Revenge of the Sieve (2013-14)

gfmorris said:
Why are we arguing about Dave's transit times?

It took UAH about 17 hours to get to Anchorage. HSV-DEN-ORD-SEA-ANC, I think — I know the first three for sure. Why the jag to Denver? That's probably a United flight. Last I checked, they flew the biggest jets out of HSV.

GFM <— cueing the "travel sucks to Huntsville, why are they in the league again?" posts.
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Geez, sounds like my last return trip from Huntsville. Flew out of Brainerd, MN on a little puddle jumper to MSP and the way to Huntsville wasn't bad, BRD-MSP-DET-HSV. But the way back, my flight from Huntsville was delayed (I was to go HSV-Memphis-MSP-BRD). They put me on a flight that they THOUGHT would get me to Memphis in time for my connection to MSP. Nope. So I ended up going HSV-Memphis-Cincy-OHare-MSP-BRD. I don't think I was in any airport other than HSV more than 45 minutes or in the air much more than an hour.

BTW, I don't think traveling to Huntsville Sucks.
 
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Speaking of crazy airline stuff, I was looking at a vacation to St. Maarten's and the cheapest flight was St. Maarten's-La Guardia-LAX-MSP...whaTF
 
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