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The new Super League is going down the tubes.

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uaafanblog said:
You know DG doesn't like people talking about him when he's not around.
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Its never stopped you before. :)

Obviously a bitter loss for the NCHC, but you move on. Hard to imagine what the stumbling block was on the television front. Perhaps Notre Dame didn't want to pass on rights fees to the opposing teams.
 
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Bale said:
Looks like it was a good thing that Bruce McLeod didn't let the inmates run the asylum. These guys are making him look like better and better every day.
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Oh yeah, he's heading straight to the Commissioners Hall Of Fame.
 
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dggoddard said:
Its never stopped you before. :)

Obviously a bitter loss for the NCHC, but you move on. Hard to imagine what the stumbling block was on the television front. Perhaps Notre Dame didn't want to pass on rights fees to the opposing teams.
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Or perhaps they realized that the LTHC was a huge mistake and they wanted no part of it :)
 
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dggoddard said:
So much intrigue, so little information. :)
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Kind of like the reasons for starting this league in the first place. So much intrigue, so little information on why this was a better option.

The only thing we know is that UND and DU were unhappy with McLeod. We don't know any reasons why other than he had a lack of foresight (which is laughable now as this is essentially the same league that McLeod put together minus 4 teams) and something that happened 25 years ago at a single school. There is no "big" TV contract. There is no Notre Dame. So in that sense, you're right. So much intrigue, so little information.

This can continue to be spun as the NCHC deciding to not accept Notre Dame, but that's a thinly veiled PR stunt and nothing more. No one is falling for that.
 
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bigblue_dl said:
NBC/Versus will get back to you as soon as they can find St. Cloud on the map.
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Hey, Mankato is easy to find on a map. Even on my globe I can point to the hook in the Minnesota River. So we got that goin' for us. Which is good.
 
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Bale said:
Kind of like the reasons for starting this league in the first place. So much intrigue, so little information on why this was a better option.

The only thing we know is that UND and DU were unhappy with McLeod. We don't know any reasons why other than he had a lack of foresight (which is laughable now as this is essentially the same league that McLeod put together minus 4 teams) and something that happened 25 years ago at a single school. There is no "big" TV contract. There is no Notre Dame. So in that sense, you're right. So much intrigue, so little information.

This can continue to be spun as the NCHC deciding to not accept Notre Dame, but that's a thinly veiled PR stunt and nothing more. No one is falling for that.
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I've tried to stay out of this endless stream of bickering about the formation of the NCHC, in part because I'm not particularily happy that it happened, and in part because most of the arguing/trolling that has occurred is pointless.

But I've always wondered why fans feel so embittered over their claim we've never heard the "real" reason or explanation for anything that has happened with respect to this move.

Isn't it pretty obvious? The schools who jumped ship thought it was in their best interests to do so. People can sit and argue all they want that it wasn't, but who cares. Even if you thought you could refute that belief (you can't), stop beating a dead horse. The decision has been made and it's time for everyone to move on.

bigblue_dl said:
NBC/Versus will get back to you as soon as they can find St. Cloud on the map.
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Some Tech fans on this Board have been the most "pointed" in their vitriol directed at the NCHC schools, and their fans, particularily UND and DU. I'm sorry Tech fans feel jilted, and that they will no longer be a part of the same league that my alma mater joined.

On the other hand, I'm old enough to remember that when I attended UND, Tech was one of the "haves" of the WCHA, and college hockey. They regularily competed for the WCHA and national titles. And then Tech decided to take their beloved Cup and search for greener pastures. They didn't do so because of any transgression committed by the WCHA schools left behind, or for any good reason anyone could identify, other than the fact that the administration at Tech thought it would benefit Tech (and not college hockey in general, or any other school) to make that move. So there is that.
 
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bigblue_dl said:
NBC/Versus will get back to you as soon as they can find St. Cloud on the map.
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NBC's hockey map?

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SJHovey said:
I've tried to stay out of this endless stream of bickering about the formation of the NCHC, in part because I'm not particularily happy that it happened, and in part because most of the arguing/trolling that has occurred is pointless.

But I've always wondered why fans feel so embittered over their claim we've never heard the "real" reason or explanation for anything that has happened with respect to this move.

Isn't it pretty obvious? The schools who jumped ship thought it was in their best interests to do so. People can sit and argue all they want that it wasn't, but who cares. Even if you thought you could refute that belief (you can't), stop beating a dead horse. The decision has been made and it's time for everyone to move on.

Some Tech fans on this Board have been the most "pointed" in their vitriol directed at the NCHC schools, and their fans, particularily UND and DU. I'm sorry Tech fans feel jilted, and that they will no longer be a part of the same league that my alma mater joined.

On the other hand, I'm old enough to remember that when I attended UND, Tech was one of the "haves" of the WCHA, and college hockey. They regularily competed for the WCHA and national titles. And then Tech decided to take their beloved Cup and search for greener pastures. They didn't do so because of any transgression committed by the WCHA schools left behind, or for any good reason anyone could identify, other than the fact that the administration at Tech thought it would benefit Tech (and not college hockey in general, or any other school) to make that move. So there is that.
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^This.

Also, many Notre Dame fans on their season thread are doubting the rumors, they don't think HE is a good fit for travel or scheduling. Until the "unnamed sources" are vouched for by someone within ND, they remain skepitcal. I still think a move to the B1G is going to happen.
 
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Apparently Huntsville is an "area in dispute". That's rather apropos, actually.
 
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SJHovey said:
I've tried to stay out of this endless stream of bickering about the formation of the NCHC, in part because I'm not particularily happy that it happened, and in part because most of the arguing/trolling that has occurred is pointless.

But I've always wondered why fans feel so embittered over their claim we've never heard the "real" reason or explanation for anything that has happened with respect to this move.

Isn't it pretty obvious? The schools who jumped ship thought it was in their best interests to do so. People can sit and argue all they want that it wasn't, but who cares. Even if you thought you could refute that belief (you can't), stop beating a dead horse. The decision has been made and it's time for everyone to move on.

Some Tech fans on this Board have been the most "pointed" in their vitriol directed at the NCHC schools, and their fans, particularily UND and DU. I'm sorry Tech fans feel jilted, and that they will no longer be a part of the same league that my alma mater joined.

On the other hand, I'm old enough to remember that when I attended UND, Tech was one of the "haves" of the WCHA, and college hockey. They regularily competed for the WCHA and national titles. And then Tech decided to take their beloved Cup and search for greener pastures. They didn't do so because of any transgression committed by the WCHA schools left behind, or for any good reason anyone could identify, other than the fact that the administration at Tech thought it would benefit Tech (and not college hockey in general, or any other school) to make that move. So there is that.
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For me it's not so much being bitter. It's more of the fact that we were lied to, fed more lies, and then just told to accept it. I don't mind that schools are doing what's best for them. It sucks for the rest of us, but that's apparently the culture we live in. What I do mind is vaguely throwing out things like "we have concerns about the leadership" and then using it for a reason to leave. That to me is a cop out. If you want to essentially start rumors about someone, then prove your case. Don't sit and be as ambiguous as possible so that you can rationalize it to everyone, and then just tell me to accept it. That's gutless. If you want to be the big boy of the group, then act like the big boy of the group. If UND and DU want to throw their weight around and act like they hold some sway, then they need to accept the consequences of those actions. Part of the consequences of those actions are not only to answer questions from your own school, but also those questions of everyone that you affect. That is why I don't just drop it and move forward. My program was hurt by this and I don't really think it's too ridiculous to ask the questions as to why. If we just allow the administrators to take actions without asking why, we're doomed. It's irresponsible, selfish and unreasonable for those that don't want to answer those questions. It just shows me how little foresight was put into this move and how far over their heads they actually were (as was the stupid press release they put out yesterday).
 
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Whew. Mariucci is just barely in the US. Half the Minneapolis campus however, is not.
 
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Bale said:
For me it's not so much being bitter. It's more of the fact that we were lied to, fed more lies, and then just told to accept it. I don't mind that schools are doing what's best for them. It sucks for the rest of us, but that's apparently the culture we live in. What I do mind is vaguely throwing out things like "we have concerns about the leadership" and then using it for a reason to leave. That to me is a cop out. If you want to essentially start rumors about someone, then prove your case. Don't sit and be as ambiguous as possible so that you can rationalize it to everyone, and then just tell me to accept it. That's gutless. If you want to be the big boy of the group, then act like the big boy of the group. If UND and DU want to throw their weight around and act like they hold some sway, then they need to accept the consequences of those actions. Part of the consequences of those actions are not only to answer questions from your own school, but also those questions of everyone that you affect. That is why I don't just drop it and move forward. My program was hurt by this and I don't really think it's too ridiculous to ask the questions as to why. If we just allow the administrators to take actions without asking why, we're doomed. It's irresponsible, selfish and unreasonable for those that don't want to answer those questions. It just shows me how little foresight was put into this move and how far over their heads they actually were (as was the stupid press release they put out yesterday).
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Let us know when you untangle your panties and are ready to move on.
 
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