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The new Super League is going down the tubes.

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manurespreader said:
Protecting the golden goose?, please... it's just an excuse to do something you have wanted to do for other reasons.

without calling names or getting into details, those facts are not facts. They are rampant speculation.

This whole thing, like I said before is not well thought out, and you deserve what you will get. Since you so called experts are determined to leave, well have a good time. Don't let the door hit you in the butt on the way out.
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If the teams in the SL are not doing it for money or to have better recruiting opportunities after the big 10 forms in a stronger conference, please do tell these other reasons you seem to know about so well. The fact that you say that this wasn't well thought out by athletic departments that would run circles around techs seems to me to be the speculation you are talking about.
 
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Huskiefan906 said:
Michigan
Wisconsin
Minnesota
Michigan State
Ohio State
Penn State

UND
DU
Miami
UMD
CC
UNO

These two leagues do not compare. The regular season records will now be worse.
Under .500 leaves you out of the Big Dance at the end of the year.
I hope they end up only playing each other non-conference.
Why would the remaining Minnesota teams give them the time of day....
Lousy thing to do to your state rivals.

I see Ohio State, Penn State, and possibly Michigan State, UNO, and CC becoming irrelevant in the new conference with consistently bad W-L records....
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I'm no pairwise expert, but Is it possible to finish 1 game below .500 in the league, but tear up the non-conference schedule and still make it?
 
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darker98 said:
I'm no pairwise expert, but Is it possible to finish 1 game below .500 in the league, but tear up the non-conference schedule and still make it?
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Yes. You just cannot finish below .500 overall. Although, I have a feeling that particular rule may be changed.
 
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willythekid said:
If the teams in the SL are not doing it for money or to have better recruiting opportunities after the big 10 forms in a stronger conference, please do tell these other reasons you seem to know about so well. The fact that you say that this wasn't well thought out by athletic departments that would run circles around techs seems to me to be the speculation you are talking about.
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Whether your Athletic department is better or worse than anyone else's has no bearing on whether you have done your due diligence or not. And most assuredly you have not.
 
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HarleyMC said:
But that doesn't mean I don't think this whole thing sucks especially for teams like yours. I'm a stone cold Gopher guy, but the WCHA is MY conference. So for me every WCHA team is a bit more special than every other in college hockey. Kind of like a family...dysfunctional, but nevertheless a family.

The WCHA is undoubtedly one of (if not THE) greatest hockey conferences in the history of NCAA college hockey. Reflecting on the championship games and teams, the great players and coaches in WCHA history now in the eerie shadow of BHHC definitely made me steaming mad. Though at some point I have to deal with the disappointment, adjust and move on...
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This
 
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darker98 said:
I'm no pairwise expert, but Is it possible to finish 1 game below .500 in the league, but tear up the non-conference schedule and still make it?
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Correct.

I posted this on another thread

Likely conference breakdown for NCAA bids:
HEA: 2-4
BTHC: 2-4
LTHC: 2-4
ECAC: 1-3
WCHA: 1-2
CCHA: 1
AHA: 1
 
stuckinwi said:
I'd like to extend a welcome to one of the 6 to the position of conference doormat. Hope you like it down here. It kinda sucks...
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I have a feeling that there won't be a big point difference between 3rd place and last place in the new league. Sweeps of opponents will be extremely difficult making every game mean so much more. This new league is just like the SEC in football, where every week there is a rivalry and the league championship is harder to win than the national championship.
 
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PenaltyBoxBeast said:
I have a feeling that there won't be a big point difference between 3rd place and last place in the new league. Sweeps of opponents will be extremely difficult making every game mean so much more. This new league is just like the SEC in football, where every week there is a rivalry and the league championship is harder to win than the national championship.
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Every conference has a doormat, don't kid yourself. Just hope it's not your school. Vanderbilt making noise happens rarely.
 
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dggoddard said:
North Dakota hockey isn't just the flagship sport for the university; its the flagship sport for the entire state. Millions of dollars in merchandise sales dwarf any TV contract they could ever hope to sign. They moved to the Super League because their "brand" was diluted in the WCHA.

While Denver doesn't have UND's fanbase, they do have 62 year college hockey history that embodies the school's identity. DU's $25 million athletic budget runs a deficit and when season ticket holders would eat tickets rather than show up to watch the Leftovers you knew something had to happen.

Fact of the matter is that UND and DU both run very profitable hockey programs. The golden goose had to be protected at each school.
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Iagree. Moreover, the BTHC will always have a recruiting edge over everybody in the country. All 6 schools will have their 20 BT games seen by everybody in North America and nobody can say that.
 
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PenaltyBoxBeast said:
I have a feeling that there won't be a big point difference between 3rd place and last place in the new league. Sweeps of opponents will be extremely difficult making every game mean so much more. This new league is just like the SEC in football, where every week there is a rivalry and the league championship is harder to win than the national championship.
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Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Ole Miss, South Carolina, and Mississippi State's combined zero conference titles since 1963 would like to know what the hell you're talking about.

It may start out that way for the first couple of years, but then someone's fanbase will get stupid about a 20 win average instead of 30 and someone's coach will be replaced with ineptitude, and they'll find out what an 8 win season feels like.
 
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bronconick said:
Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Ole Miss, South Carolina, and Mississippi State's combined zero conference titles since 1963 would like to know what the hell you're talking about.

It may start out that way for the first couple of years, but then someone's fanbase will get stupid about a 20 win average instead of 30 and someone's coach will be replaced with ineptitude, and they'll find out what an 8 win season feels like.
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*Michigan Tech raises its hand*
 
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bronconick said:
Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Ole Miss, South Carolina, and Mississippi State's combined zero conference titles since 1963 would like to know what the hell you're talking about.

It may start out that way for the first couple of years, but then someone's fanbase will get stupid about a 20 win average instead of 30 and someone's coach will be replaced with ineptitude, and they'll find out what an 8 win season feels like.
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8 wins? That's a good year! :(
 
4four4 said:
All 6 schools will have their 20 BT games seen by everybody in North America and nobody can say that.
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Really? How are they going to accomplish that? Force everybody in North America to watch?

They might be available to everyone, but they won't be seen by everyone.
 
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HarleyMC said:
However, if the SL does land a Versus/NBC contract, it's doubtful whether NBC will want to plunge headlong into a niche market like college hockey and even come close to equaling BTN's cash dispersion to member schools. They will most likely tread cautiously. But if Notre Dame decides to buy into the new SL because of additional media revenue benefits, that changes things significantly and the financial benefits for the new SL could indeed be more substantial.
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Here is the example of the big difference between the BTHC and everybody else. Versus will not show 20 games of BHHC games on their network. Maybe a game or two but that is it. Every kid in North America will be able to watch the BTHC and will likely be the reason the have nots in the BTHC are strong. The BTHC reminds me of when I watched the WCHA in the 70's every team had the ability to win a series on any given weekend. They were all strong back then and even the bottom feeders with a lucky bounce here or there could have been in the upper echelon of the WCHA.
 
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MavsFan said:
Really? How are they going to accomplish that? Force everybody in North America to watch?

They might be available to everyone, but they won't be seen by everyone.
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Thank you for making my point even more clear. If any kid wants to watch the BTHC on tv that student will have an option.
 
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