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The new Super League is going down the tubes.
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bronconick
Yep, still here
Re: The new Super League is going down the tubes.
Hell, that's kind of what I'm thinking of for Western (and Ferris for that matter). If we can pull scheduling agreements with Michigan, MSU, and Notre Dame with 2-3 games at home, assuming they leave, the only real difference is that the conference is easier to win. I'd prefer that 20+6 games plus 10 more non-conference games (4 a year vs. the WCHA, a couple against Atlantic Hockey and 4 more vs. ECAC/Hockey East) over getting into a top heavy super conference where we'd probably be fighting to get out of the basement.
Hell, that's kind of what I'm thinking of for Western (and Ferris for that matter). If we can pull scheduling agreements with Michigan, MSU, and Notre Dame with 2-3 games at home, assuming they leave, the only real difference is that the conference is easier to win. I'd prefer that 20+6 games plus 10 more non-conference games (4 a year vs. the WCHA, a couple against Atlantic Hockey and 4 more vs. ECAC/Hockey East) over getting into a top heavy super conference where we'd probably be fighting to get out of the basement.
Hammer
We'll be back.
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If this new conference stays at 6 (which I'm very skeptical), we may be okay. Maybe. One more team bolts from the CCHA and there's some schools that are going to be done in 3-5 years. Mine is probably one of them. Ask the CHA teams how well a small league of small schools works out.
If this new conference stays at 6 (which I'm very skeptical), we may be okay. Maybe. One more team bolts from the CCHA and there's some schools that are going to be done in 3-5 years. Mine is probably one of them. Ask the CHA teams how well a small league of small schools works out.
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Seems to me that there "power" leagues with two guaranteed spots in the tournament, AND they would arguably be in line to receive a majority of at-large bids, I would expect the remaining conferences to rethink things (at least, possibly the ECAC). With 12 teams fighting over one spot, and little (but not no, I understand) chance at an at-large, the "power" leagues would get too much, I would think. I would not expect Notre Dame to go to Hockey East, in this situation, as that would make the HEA an 11-team conference, further diluting the potential for an auto-bid for the teams there (of course, they have a greater chance of getting at-large bids). In any event, I have no idea what could happen, but I would not be surprised to see Niagara, Robert Morris, and possibly Mercyhurst group together and leave Atlantic Hockey to group with the remainder of the CCHA teams (at least Ferris, Northern, LSSU, and BGSU) and (hopefully) UAH to form a new conference. I realize that would move Alaska out, and that a conference with Fairbanks may not be palatable, but I wouldn't think the perks for traveling to Alaska would help the remaining teams (and UAH would be a better fit in that respect). With the rumblings of Notre Dame and WMU possibly going to the "Sioux-per" conference, as I've seen it written on here, that would leave a WCHA of six teams, a CCHA of 8 teams, a Sioux-per conference of 8 teams, the Big 10 of 6 teams (heh), HEA with 10 still, Atlantic with 9, and the ECAC with 12. That would be 7 auto-bids and 9 at-large, but with fewer teams per conference, it would open things up a little bit, at least probability-wise for most. Again, though, if things remain static with the ECAC and HEA, I would be very surprised. Somehow, a coupling of some ECAC and HEA teams to make yet another conference would leave 8 autobids. WHo knows?
Seems to me that there "power" leagues with two guaranteed spots in the tournament, AND they would arguably be in line to receive a majority of at-large bids, I would expect the remaining conferences to rethink things (at least, possibly the ECAC). With 12 teams fighting over one spot, and little (but not no, I understand) chance at an at-large, the "power" leagues would get too much, I would think. I would not expect Notre Dame to go to Hockey East, in this situation, as that would make the HEA an 11-team conference, further diluting the potential for an auto-bid for the teams there (of course, they have a greater chance of getting at-large bids). In any event, I have no idea what could happen, but I would not be surprised to see Niagara, Robert Morris, and possibly Mercyhurst group together and leave Atlantic Hockey to group with the remainder of the CCHA teams (at least Ferris, Northern, LSSU, and BGSU) and (hopefully) UAH to form a new conference. I realize that would move Alaska out, and that a conference with Fairbanks may not be palatable, but I wouldn't think the perks for traveling to Alaska would help the remaining teams (and UAH would be a better fit in that respect). With the rumblings of Notre Dame and WMU possibly going to the "Sioux-per" conference, as I've seen it written on here, that would leave a WCHA of six teams, a CCHA of 8 teams, a Sioux-per conference of 8 teams, the Big 10 of 6 teams (heh), HEA with 10 still, Atlantic with 9, and the ECAC with 12. That would be 7 auto-bids and 9 at-large, but with fewer teams per conference, it would open things up a little bit, at least probability-wise for most. Again, though, if things remain static with the ECAC and HEA, I would be very surprised. Somehow, a coupling of some ECAC and HEA teams to make yet another conference would leave 8 autobids. WHo knows?
Squarebanks
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How so? We swept Ferris in our tourney year, if my memory is correct.
(not that it matters anymore)
SCSU Euro
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Re: The new Super League is going down the tubes.
While true, I thought the original comparison to the original UW-MSU-M year that was brought up hinged on the fact that they were a) below in head to head, b) below in standings and c) below .500, which it sounds like in this case there was only one of those qualifications. Teams finish behind somebody but make the tourney over them all the time, tUMD finished 5th and knocked off 6th place SCSU this decade in the conference 1st round tourney, but SCSU made the dance.
While true, I thought the original comparison to the original UW-MSU-M year that was brought up hinged on the fact that they were a) below in head to head, b) below in standings and c) below .500, which it sounds like in this case there was only one of those qualifications. Teams finish behind somebody but make the tourney over them all the time, tUMD finished 5th and knocked off 6th place SCSU this decade in the conference 1st round tourney, but SCSU made the dance.
uaafanblog
AKA - "Drop The Puck"
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And the recruiting domination of the elite players begins ...
Denver secured Finnish goaltender Juho Olkinuora from Sioux Falls in the USHL. He played a staggering 27 games and went 14-13 with a .900 save percentage and a 2.78 gaa.
And the recruiting domination of the elite players begins ...
Denver secured Finnish goaltender Juho Olkinuora from Sioux Falls in the USHL. He played a staggering 27 games and went 14-13 with a .900 save percentage and a 2.78 gaa.
co14ers
Running like Hell
Re: The new Super League is going down the tubes.
Thanks for noting that Captain Obvious. But, this acquire happened a while back before all of the recent Shenanigans. It was done because of the recently discovered seriousness of Sam Brittain's injury. DU was put in a tough spot to get a goaltender once the severity of the injury to Sam was understood.
Your boobness continues, but rock on, bro.
Thanks for noting that Captain Obvious. But, this acquire happened a while back before all of the recent Shenanigans. It was done because of the recently discovered seriousness of Sam Brittain's injury. DU was put in a tough spot to get a goaltender once the severity of the injury to Sam was understood.
Your boobness continues, but rock on, bro.
uaafanblog
AKA - "Drop The Puck"
Re: The new Super League is going down the tubes.
Went.Right.Over.Your.Rocketscientist.Head.
co14ers
Running like Hell
Re: The new Super League is going down the tubes.
What? No sesquipedalian/vulgar missive in response to my comment? One thing I won't miss from the UAA fan base is the constant whining about UAA losses. I didn't make the decision to make this move. But I won't miss your incessant drivel. Go pound sand. Proves that there are silver linings to every cloud.
What? No sesquipedalian/vulgar missive in response to my comment? One thing I won't miss from the UAA fan base is the constant whining about UAA losses. I didn't make the decision to make this move. But I won't miss your incessant drivel. Go pound sand. Proves that there are silver linings to every cloud.
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If the super league stays at six (UND, CC, DU, UMD, UNO, Miami) and Notre Dame stays in the CCHA, perhaps the WCHA should try to get NMU to join. That would make the WCHA and CCHA six-team leagues (albeit with small schools) and retain the AQ for the remaining WCHA schools (MTU, UAA, BSU, SCSU, MSU-M). All of these new six team conferences would have 20 conference games and 14 (16 if they play a couple in Alaska) non-conference games. Depending on what kind of non-conference agreements can be hammered out with the bigger greedy s.o.b.'s, this arrangement *might* actually work to some degree.
If Notre Dame bolts to Hockey Rast or the Super League, then the WCHA remnants' only real option would be to invite UAH to join to retain the AQ (despite the fact it wouldn't make a hell of a lot of geographical sense).
If the super league stays at six (UND, CC, DU, UMD, UNO, Miami) and Notre Dame stays in the CCHA, perhaps the WCHA should try to get NMU to join. That would make the WCHA and CCHA six-team leagues (albeit with small schools) and retain the AQ for the remaining WCHA schools (MTU, UAA, BSU, SCSU, MSU-M). All of these new six team conferences would have 20 conference games and 14 (16 if they play a couple in Alaska) non-conference games. Depending on what kind of non-conference agreements can be hammered out with the bigger greedy s.o.b.'s, this arrangement *might* actually work to some degree.
If Notre Dame bolts to Hockey Rast or the Super League, then the WCHA remnants' only real option would be to invite UAH to join to retain the AQ (despite the fact it wouldn't make a hell of a lot of geographical sense).
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Until a couple or more schools shut down their programs and everything goes back to the drawing board.
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This is why I think the best thing the WCHA and CCHA can do at this point is to start talking to each other, and working in tandem to draw a few AHA teams into the CCHA so that the WCHA and CCHA can be redistributed into two 8-team conferences.
Obviously, there is some jockeying and serious discussions that must be instigated to determine the best way to reorganize teams. But if the leagues work together, they can put something in place where both leagues stay relatively regional and both leagues have a cushion should the dark cloud of some programs folding become reality.
This is why I think the best thing the WCHA and CCHA can do at this point is to start talking to each other, and working in tandem to draw a few AHA teams into the CCHA so that the WCHA and CCHA can be redistributed into two 8-team conferences.
Obviously, there is some jockeying and serious discussions that must be instigated to determine the best way to reorganize teams. But if the leagues work together, they can put something in place where both leagues stay relatively regional and both leagues have a cushion should the dark cloud of some programs folding become reality.
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NMU's President said its time to do what is best for NMU and its interests. I think NMU wants to stay in the CCHA, but if it becomes more Lower MI/Western NY and Western PA...NMU is better suited for the WCHA with the furthest road trip being BSU or MSU-M vs Erie PA or Buffalo NY. If NMU and LSSU leave for the WCHA, that puts Ferris is a real bind, with Western and the giant question mark in Notre Dame.
NMU's President said its time to do what is best for NMU and its interests. I think NMU wants to stay in the CCHA, but if it becomes more Lower MI/Western NY and Western PA...NMU is better suited for the WCHA with the furthest road trip being BSU or MSU-M vs Erie PA or Buffalo NY. If NMU and LSSU leave for the WCHA, that puts Ferris is a real bind, with Western and the giant question mark in Notre Dame.
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So where will the new conference tourneys be held? I'm assuming that due to the distance between schools the Super league and B10 tourneys will be held on campus sites.
Does this also mean now that in a few years HE will have the best tourney in the country by default?
So where will the new conference tourneys be held? I'm assuming that due to the distance between schools the Super league and B10 tourneys will be held on campus sites.
Does this also mean now that in a few years HE will have the best tourney in the country by default?
RaceBoarder
Waiting for the Snow to fly...
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Assuming the UP schools move to the WCHA, I would think that Green Bay or Duluth would be good hosts... Each would be reasonable travel for all members and you have Medium sized arenas that could sell out given the right conditions...
The CCHA tournament is the harder problem to solve... Detroit is no longer a viable option without Michigan or MSU... I'm really not sure what you can have that is central to everyone and has some local interest to generate ticket sales...
Assuming the UP schools move to the WCHA, I would think that Green Bay or Duluth would be good hosts... Each would be reasonable travel for all members and you have Medium sized arenas that could sell out given the right conditions...
The CCHA tournament is the harder problem to solve... Detroit is no longer a viable option without Michigan or MSU... I'm really not sure what you can have that is central to everyone and has some local interest to generate ticket sales...
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....& they could check their pride at the door, in a "Pretty Little Pony" lunchbox.
certainly not the fans of the teams that get plucked! The rest of us will scream bloody murder.
That's hilarious! (the part about Duluth). Can you imagine the leftovers begging Duluth to let them skate on their "Super League Super Ice"?
....& they could check their pride at the door, in a "Pretty Little Pony" lunchbox.
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