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The Most Serious [x] Problem We Face Today

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And now I'll ask my question again: What about these "private" charities that receive funding from the federal government? For example, we spend billions of taxpayer money on "faith-based initiatives" that allegedly help this "moocher class". Do we kick them off the federal dole too, or are they OK?

Corporate welfare we'll leave for another discussion.
 
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And now I'll ask my question again: What about these "private" charities that receive funding from the federal government? For example, we spend billions of taxpayer money on "faith-based initiatives" that allegedly help this "moocher class". Do we kick them off the federal dole too, or are they OK?

Corporate welfare we'll leave for another discussion.
You forgot about the tax break they get as a religious organization, 501c(3), etc...
 
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You forgot about the tax break they get as a religious organization, 501c(3), etc...

We cover that next year in POL 221. This is still the beginner class where we ask smaller questions. :)
 
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From Thomas Sowell, with his usual wit and eloquence:

At the heart of the left’s vision of the world is the implicit assumption that high-minded third parties like themselves can make better decisions for other people than those people can make for themselves. That assumption underlies a wide spectrum of laws and policies over the years, from urban renewal to ObamaCare.

One crusade is the drive to limit the hours of work by people in other countries — especially poorer countries — in businesses operated by multinationals. One international monitoring group has taken on the task of making sure that people in China don’t work more than the legally prescribed 49 hours per week.



Why affluent Americans or Europeans would imagine that they know what is best for people who are far poorer than they are, and with far fewer options, is one of the many mysteries of the busybody elite.

As someone who left home at the age of 17, with no high school diploma, no job experience and no skills, I spent several years learning the hard way what poverty is like. One of the happier times in those years was a brief period when I worked 60 hours a week — 40 hours delivering telegrams during the day and 20 hours working part-time in a machine shop at night.

Why was I happy? Because, before finding these jobs, I’d spent weeks desperately looking for any job, while my meager savings dwindled down to literally my last dollar, before finally finding the part-time job at night in a machine shop.

I had to walk several miles from the rooming house where I lived in Harlem to the machine shop located just below the Brooklyn Bridge, in order to save that last dollar to buy bread until I got a payday.

When I then found a full-time job delivering telegrams during the day, the money from the two jobs combined was more than I had ever made before. I could pay the back rent I owed on my room and both eat and ride the subways back and forth to work. I could even put aside some money for a rainy day. It was the closest thing to nirvana for me.

Unemployment among black teens in the recession year of 1949 was a fraction of what it would be in even the most prosperous years of the 1960s and beyond.

As the busybodies raised the minimum-wage rate, beginning in the 1950s, black teen unemployment skyrocketed. We’ve grown so used to tragically high rates of unemployment among this group that many people have no idea that things weren’t always like that, much less that policies of the busybody left had such catastrophic consequences.

I don’t know what I would’ve done if such busybody policies had been in effect back in 1949, and prevented me from finding a job before my last dollar ran out.

It would never occur to the busybodies that multinationals expand the options of the poor in Third World countries, while busybody policies contract their options.

Wages paid by multinational corporations in poor countries are typically much higher than wages paid by local employers. Moreover, the experience working in modern companies make them more valuable workers and have led in China, for example, to wages rising by double-digit percentages annually.

Nothing is easier for people with degrees to imagine that they know better than the poor and uneducated. But, as someone once said, “A fool can put on his coat better than a wise man can put it on for him.”


Sometimes I wonder how any person of good will with a conscience and a brain can remain umoved after reading something like that.
 
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Cyber-crime and cyber-terrorism remain very serious threats.

From REUTERS: Around half of the world's securities exchanges were the target of cyberattacks last year, according to a paper based on a survey of 46 exchanges released on Tuesday.

The prevalence of attacks along with the interconnected nature of the markets creates the potential for widespread impact, said the joint staff working paper by the International Organization of Securities Commissions' (IOSCO) research department and the World Federation of Exchanges Office.

"There could be systemic impacts ... from cyberattacks in the securities markets, especially considering that our financial system is relying more and more on technological infrastructure," the report's author, Rohini Tendulkar of the IOSCO Research Department, said in an interview.
 
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http://ideas.time.com/2013/08/19/school-has-become-too-hostile-to-boys/?hpt=hp_t3

For decades schools were not inviting to girls and I think it is great that is no longer the case...now it is not unusual to see 80% of teachers and administrators being female in some schools. Some boys can go years without a male teacher in any subject.

We all know women make most purchasing decisions...so how are men typically portrayed in commercials? (and sitcoms etc) Would years of testing and billions of dollars of spend confirm the use of those tactics to sell products to the decision makers? So, if 'the way' to sell products to women is to typically portray men as buffoons...does any of that sentiment carry over into the perception of male school students?

If an univiting environment used to stifle girls' involvement and performance in school, might the same be true for boys today?

If today's colleges are under-representing boys, imagine where we will be in 20 years. But, education in the US is a political football and a playground for social experiments...so, how's that working out for today's young men?
 
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For decades schools were not inviting to girls and I think it is great that is no longer the case...now it is not unusual to see 80% of teachers and administrators being female in some schools. Some boys can go years without a male teacher in any subject.

We all know women make most purchasing decisions...so how are men typically portrayed in commercials? (and sitcoms etc) Would years of testing and billions of dollars of spend confirm the use of those tactics to sell products to the decision makers? So, if 'the way' to sell products to women is to typically portray men as buffoons...does any of that sentiment carry over into the perception of male school students?

If an univiting environment used to stifle girls' involvement and performance in school, might the same be true for boys today?

If today's colleges are under-representing boys, imagine where we will be in 20 years. But, education in the US is a political football and a playground for social experiments...so, how's that working out for today's young men?

Depends on if the female teachers are 1) good looking, and 2) willing to date male students.

There, I said it. ;)
 
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http://ideas.time.com/2013/08/19/school-has-become-too-hostile-to-boys/?hpt=hp_t3

For decades schools were not inviting to girls and I think it is great that is no longer the case...now it is not unusual to see 80% of teachers and administrators being female in some schools. Some boys can go years without a male teacher in any subject.

We all know women make most purchasing decisions...so how are men typically portrayed in commercials? (and sitcoms etc) Would years of testing and billions of dollars of spend confirm the use of those tactics to sell products to the decision makers? So, if 'the way' to sell products to women is to typically portray men as buffoons...does any of that sentiment carry over into the perception of male school students?

If an univiting environment used to stifle girls' involvement and performance in school, might the same be true for boys today?

If today's colleges are under-representing boys, imagine where we will be in 20 years. But, education in the US is a political football and a playground for social experiments...so, how's that working out for today's young men?

Agreed about the stereotypes on TV.

Having said that...its a tough, capitalistic world out there. Billy...the world is full of competition. How are you going to beat the Chinese if you can't beat your sister?
 
Agreed about the stereotypes on TV.

Having said that...its a tough, capitalistic world out there. Billy...the world is full of competition. How are you going to beat the Chinese if you can't beat your sister?

Women today didn't evolve a century or two from 50 years ago; I'd tell Morty and Randy it is a mixture of nature and nurture. Then I'd get the crop report and make millions.

And we aren't beating the Chinese...I suspect they figured out long ago that education was the path to success.

Remember, a mind is a terrible thing.
 
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Women today didn't evolve a century or two from 50 years ago.

Women had been underestimated for quite a while.

And we aren't beating the Chinese...I suspect they figured out long ago that education was the path to success.

Yes and no. Our rank and file are not the bargain that the Chinese are. Their best and brightest aren't in the same solar system as ours. Johnny shouldn't be sulking because he didn't get that plum opportunity vs. a female, because there's another female ready to take the next one also. The country needs Johnny to make himself unbeatable. That'll give the country what it takes to make the pie bigger for all Americans.
 
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Small sample size coming, but I've never found either of my sons to have been neglected nor picked on by their teachers to date (entering 4th and 5th and but one male teacher between them) and we are extremely involved in their schooling. To the point if it were happening we'd be the first to know. I've also never heard any complaints from other parents. I find the premise preposterous on its face, laughable in its application and insulting in its insinuation.
 
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http://ideas.time.com/2013/08/19/school-has-become-too-hostile-to-boys/?hpt=hp_t3

For decades schools were not inviting to girls and I think it is great that is no longer the case...now it is not unusual to see 80% of teachers and administrators being female in some schools. Some boys can go years without a male teacher in any subject.

We all know women make most purchasing decisions...so how are men typically portrayed in commercials? (and sitcoms etc) Would years of testing and billions of dollars of spend confirm the use of those tactics to sell products to the decision makers? So, if 'the way' to sell products to women is to typically portray men as buffoons...does any of that sentiment carry over into the perception of male school students?

If an univiting environment used to stifle girls' involvement and performance in school, might the same be true for boys today?

If today's colleges are under-representing boys, imagine where we will be in 20 years. But, education in the US is a political football and a playground for social experiments...so, how's that working out for today's young men?

Don't rule out peer pressure. I know when I was in school it was very uncool for boys to be on the honor roll. One other guy (who routinely got the highest marks in the grade) and I were the only boys who made the honor roll every quarter from 6th - 8th grade. We were hazed mercilessly by our classmates. On the other hand, if you were a female and did NOT make the honor roll you got harassed even worse than we did.
 
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Don't rule out peer pressure. I know when I was in school it was very uncool for boys to be on the honor roll. One other guy (who routinely got the highest marks in the grade) and I were the only boys who made the honor roll every quarter from 6th - 8th grade. We were hazed mercilessly by our classmates. On the other hand, if you were a female and did NOT make the honor roll you got harassed even worse than we did.
I avoided this trouble by letting the tough guys cheat off me. Never lost a minute's sleep over it. The Smart girls would get ****ed about being outdone by a couple smart guys and some dumb tough guys.
 
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I avoided this trouble by letting the tough guys cheat off me. Never lost a minute's sleep over it. The Smart girls would get ****ed about being outdone by a couple smart guys and some dumb tough guys.
The jocks in my school didn't want to cheat off us...they just wanted to keep their grades high enough to remain eligible to play basketball and move to the next grade. As I said, it would be very uncool of them to actually make the honor roll. Now, had any of the girls wanted to cheat off me... :D
 
Small sample size coming, but I've never found either of my sons to have been neglected nor picked on by their teachers to date (entering 4th and 5th and but one male teacher between them) and we are extremely involved in their schooling. To the point if it were happening we'd be the first to know. I've also never heard any complaints from other parents. I find the premise preposterous on its face, laughable in its application and insulting in its insinuation.

Oh, ok, you are right. The numbers were made up and male students are performing as well as ever in school and college. Hence our over-supply of qualified job applicants, the reduction in unemployed young men, less crime among that same demographic etc.

Google the subject instead of prattling on based on a data set of two.

As they say, better to remain silent...
 
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Don't rule out peer pressure. I know when I was in school it was very uncool for boys to be on the honor roll. One other guy (who routinely got the highest marks in the grade) and I were the only boys who made the honor roll every quarter from 6th - 8th grade. We were hazed mercilessly by our classmates. On the other hand, if you were a female and did NOT make the honor roll you got harassed even worse than we did.
This was not the culture at my high school at all. Thank god. I would say about equal between male and female on the honor roll, and about the same amount in the top 20 of the class. No one made fun of me or my friends for being the smart ones, and many of the "jocks" were also pretty dang smart, and in all of the advanced classes with me and my friends.
 
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This was not the culture at my high school at all. Thank god. I would say about equal between male and female on the honor roll, and about the same amount in the top 20 of the class. No one made fun of me or my friends for being the smart ones, and many of the "jocks" were also pretty dang smart, and in all of the advanced classes with me and my friends.

I was also fortunate enough to be pulled along by the expectation that athletes were not dumber than the next guy...and am glad that was the case.

I didn't raise this point because it was pertinent to my individual experience...and most of the articles on the subject don't focus on anecdotal information.

Clearly some on here have never heard of this concern, but it has been out there for a decade at least.

While we often debate current events or issues on here, this is one that has a profound long-term impact. Most, if not all, estimates used by the CBO for future revenue and spending are likely based on current ratios of education, employment etc. If the academic success rates of young men have dropped dramatically in the last 10-20 years, we haven't seen the impact on post-school performance.

It also isn't solely a US issue...the UK has produced a fair amount of research on the subject.

Some of the comments on here that I think were meant to rebut the concept actually support it in my view...that girls have progressed so much indicates they always had the potential, this generation isn't a super-race of girls. The societal expectation was that they didn't need to worry themselves with math and science and business as much as the boys did. Once that was removed we saw a rapid change in school and college performance...to me that is evidence that the environment plays a role in performance.

If girls could be held down by expectations they should be homemakers, then it stands to reason boys could be held down by expectations they are bad students, poorly behaved or less inclined to follow direction.

I would encourage people to read up on the subject, not all the articles support the same conclusion as to cause...but there is bonafide research on the subject in terms of gender performance in school
 
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