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The Most Serious [x] Problem We Face Today

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I might, if it made me more arrogant. Sometimes I think I'm a little too tame out here...;)

aw, I think it's really sweet that the staff where you are housed allow you such liberal internet access. That's quite rare in psychiatric hospitals. Is that part of an experimental treatment program? if you vent your delusions on the internet, you wind up behaving better on the unit and consequently are less of a burden to the hospital staff thereby?
 
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What can I say? Teachers are as lazy and stupid as the general population is these days. If their job seems too hard, it can't be their fault - their students just *must* have a medical condition, since with their amazing and perfect teaching skills, every kid should be voted class angel.

I just don't think it has anything to do with the gender of the kids or the teachers.

You don't have any kids in school do you? I have a son and the issue was clear from kindergarten. And my kid is not one of the problem kids (even according to the teachers). I really wish he had been taught by more male teachers, the ones he did have dealt with him and the other boys much better than MOST of the female teachers.
 
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You don't have any kids in school do you? I have a son and the issue was clear from kindergarten. And my kid is not one of the problem kids (even according to the teachers). I really wish he had been taught by more male teachers, the ones he did have dealt with him and the other boys much better than MOST of the female teachers.
Okay, I'm convinced. From now on, every kid should only be taught by teachers of the same gender, skin color, religion, ethnicity, height, weight, sexual orientation, and sports team affiliation as he is. Heaven forbid that kids should have to learn to interact with a diverse variety of people - how ever could they turn out okay under such unreasonable conditions?

I had some horrible teachers, and quite honestly, I really think I learned more about life, being true to myself, and self-motivation from those experiences than I learned from some of my good teachers. These experiences are all part of life. I'm not saying I'd go out of my way to make sure my kids had horrible teachers "just to show 'em," but a few bad teachers out of the dozens they will encounter is actually probably a good thing for them in the long run.
 
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Okay, I'm convinced. From now on, every kid should only be taught by teachers of the same gender, skin color, religion, ethnicity, height, weight, sexual orientation, and sports team affiliation as he is. Heaven forbid that kids should have to learn to interact with a diverse variety of people - how ever could they turn out okay under such unreasonable conditions?

I had some horrible teachers, and quite honestly, I really think I learned more about life, being true to myself, and self-motivation from those experiences than I learned from some of my good teachers. These experiences are all part of life. I'm not saying I'd go out of my way to make sure my kids had horrible teachers "just to show 'em," but a few bad teachers out of the dozens they will encounter is actually probably a good thing for them in the long run.
I don't think anyone, especially goldy, is trying to imply what you jumped to here. Some in-between ground exists, maybe there should be more emphasis put on this topic during certain courses required to get a teacher's degree. Maybe there should be seminars on this at teachers conventions. Don't jump to the conclusion you have and segregate everyone and everything, instead help the teachers that are struggling with this overcome their problems.
 
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Okay, I'm convinced. From now on, every kid should only be taught by teachers of the same gender, skin color, religion, ethnicity, height, weight, sexual orientation, and sports team affiliation as he is. Heaven forbid that kids should have to learn to interact with a diverse variety of people - how ever could they turn out okay under such unreasonable conditions?

I had some horrible teachers, and quite honestly, I really think I learned more about life, being true to myself, and self-motivation from those experiences than I learned from some of my good teachers. These experiences are all part of life. I'm not saying I'd go out of my way to make sure my kids had horrible teachers "just to show 'em," but a few bad teachers out of the dozens they will encounter is actually probably a good thing for them in the long run.

Well, that is certainly a reasonable conclusion based on what I posted. :rolleyes:
 
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Well, that is certainly a reasonable conclusion based on what I posted. :rolleyes:
Nuns, he should have gone to Catholic school, they deal with boys with yardsticks, ask me how I know :)
 
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The Facts Of Life
Life is not fair.
No one is exempt from death.
Physics rules the universe and biology rules life.
The universe does not care.
The only constant in life is change.
There is always a choice.
Wishing never makes it so.
A person can't exceed their limits.
A person is responsible for their own happiness.
It is impossible to change the character of another.

Copyright© 2007 by Lazlo Zalezac
 
The Facts Of Life
Life is not fair.
No one is exempt from death.
Physics rules the universe and biology rules life.
The universe does not care.
The only constant in life is change.
There is always a choice.
Wishing never makes it so.
A person can't exceed their limits.
A person is responsible for their own happiness.
It is impossible to change the character of another.

Copyright© 2007 by Lazlo Zalezac

In as much as we're discussing school students, I don't agree the last two apply to the same degree they apply to adults.
 
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The Facts Of Life
Life is not fair.
No one is exempt from death.
Physics rules the universe and biology rules life.
The universe does not care.
The only constant in life is change.
There is always a choice.
Wishing never makes it so.
A person can't exceed their limits.
A person is responsible for their own happiness.
It is impossible to change the character of another.

Copyright© 2007 by Lazlo Zalezac

All true. Can't argue with any of it.
 
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The Facts Of Life
Life is not fair.
No one is exempt from death.
Physics rules the universe and biology rules life.
The universe does not care.
The only constant in life is change.
There is always a choice.
Wishing never makes it so.
A person can't exceed their limits.
A person is responsible for their own happiness.
It is impossible to change the character of another.

Copyright© 2007 by Lazlo Zalezac

True.

But if that's your moral code. Don't expect much from anyone else (be it neighbor, child or God).

Perhaps that's a good deal for you...right now.
 
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True.

But if that's your moral code. Don't expect much from anyone else (be it neighbor, child or God).

Perhaps that's a good deal for you...right now.
Generally, when I've heard people recite that list of facts it's accompanied with the idea that you will reap what you sow. Therefore, the best thing you can do is to expect little from others but still offer them all the help you can. That way you're most likely (perhpas more hopeful) to receive some help from your friends and neighbors when your time of need comes.
 
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Generally, when I've heard people recite that list of facts it's accompanied with the idea that you will reap what you sow. Therefore, the best thing you can do is to expect little from others but still offer them all the help you can. That way you're most likely (perhpas more hopeful) to receive some help from your friends and neighbors when your time of need comes.

Years ago I saw a great poster that showed how most religions have a "golden rule" central to their philosophy. It showed the phrase and document in which you could see the "treat others..." aspect.

Not sure when most of them deviated from that basic concept.

Thinking further, I'm not sure I feel as strongly about the last 'fact' about character being true...I think it should be true but in my current view I think character is lacking across society and therefore is relative to a greater degree than it should be. The amount of fraud, corruption, hate and indifference is not all a result of nature...in my humble opinion. I don't want to argue with anyone on this topic...just offering my $.02. I don't think all criminals were bad to the bone from day one...people can be subjected to pressures and influences of greater volume and force than in the past and I think are less resistant. So, I undersand the pure view of character...i don't think it is that black and white anymore.
 
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Years ago I saw a great poster that showed how most religions have a "golden rule" central to their philosophy. It showed the phrase and document in which you could see the "treat others..." aspect.

Not sure when most of them deviated from that basic concept.

Thinking further, I'm not sure I feel as strongly about the last 'fact' about character being true...I think it should be true but in my current view I think character is lacking across society and therefore is relative to a greater degree than it should be. The amount of fraud, corruption, hate and indifference is not all a result of nature...in my humble opinion. I don't want to argue with anyone on this topic...just offering my $.02. I don't think all criminals were bad to the bone from day one...people can be subjected to pressures and influences of greater volume and force than in the past and I think are less resistant. So, I undersand the pure view of character...i don't think it is that black and white anymore.
I read a column in the Minneapolis paper over the weekend by someone named Kersten. I think she's pretty well known as someone on the far-right of the political spectrum, but this particular column I found somewhat interesting.

She reported that there was a study performed in which people were asked questions like (I'm paraphrasing), "If there was a fire, and you only had an opportunity to save either your family pet, or a complete stranger, from the burning house, which would you save." Apparently a surprising number of people indicated they would choose the pet.

Kersten's theory, I guess, is that as society moves away from judeo-christian values to one more centered on science, society develops a sort of moral relativism that makes you think only about yourself, your own needs and assets, and less about society as a whole.

May just be a big pile of hooey, but I thought it was an interesting column anyway.
 
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Years ago I saw a great poster that showed how most religions have a "golden rule" central to their philosophy. It showed the phrase and document in which you could see the "treat others..." aspect.

Not sure when most of them deviated from that basic concept.

Thinking further, I'm not sure I feel as strongly about the last 'fact' about character being true...I think it should be true but in my current view I think character is lacking across society and therefore is relative to a greater degree than it should be. The amount of fraud, corruption, hate and indifference is not all a result of nature...in my humble opinion. I don't want to argue with anyone on this topic...just offering my $.02. I don't think all criminals were bad to the bone from day one...people can be subjected to pressures and influences of greater volume and force than in the past and I think are less resistant. So, I undersand the pure view of character...i don't think it is that black and white anymore.
I think the point of "It is impossible to change the character of another," is that YOU can't force someone else to change his character - only *he* can change his own character. To me, that doesn't mean, "forget that other guy, there's nothing you can do that will make him change," it just means that when you are kind and good to other people - thus surrounding them with the conditions which might allow their character to change - don't feel hurt or frustrated if they don't change, since you can't force change on them from the outside. Keep being good and kind to people anyway, and thereby take care of your own happiness (see fact #9).
 
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This may explain Les' problem in town. Then again, it may not..

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