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Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1-#59
Nobody is saying it disappears. I'm simply not including them in this list. Because you apparently like semantics, "dropped" probably isn't the best word to describe what happens to those programs. I'll go with "unpublished."
Although, perhaps I should have a piece in the formula for dropping your program. That's about the worst thing that can possibly happen, so maybe just take the team's points and multiply by zero. Voila...a lot of programs tied for last with zero points.
As for when "All-Time" starts, I've explained it before, and I think it is pretty clear. The formula includes every non-exhibition game (as the game was classified at the time of its playing) and recognized achievement for the published programs, including games going back to the late 19th Century. In other words..."All-Time."
It sounds like you are questioning my efforts here. I'll let my work speak for itself, but I certainly tried and was unable to piece together complete records for most of the defunct programs. If you have complete records for defunct programs (outside of Iona, Fairfield, and Wayne State), please send them my way. I need every game the school played (preferably including dates, but at least the season), the score, and significant achievements (e.g. conference regular season and tournament championships, all-conference selections). Thanks!
Well, I've been posting this list here for just about six years, so I've had a lot of "help." FWIW, that's one of the great things about message boards is that everyone gets to express their ideas.
If you called this list/thread "The Greatest All-Time Current Programs" I could see you dropping teams, but you have called it "The Greatest Programs of All-Time." Just because a school dropped the sport doesn't mean that the history of that team suddenly disappears. In the case of North Dakota and Denver it would likely take many decades for most of the teams on the list to pass them in all-time greatness (if they ever did pass them). And of course there is also the question of when "All-Time" starts.
Nobody is saying it disappears. I'm simply not including them in this list. Because you apparently like semantics, "dropped" probably isn't the best word to describe what happens to those programs. I'll go with "unpublished."
Although, perhaps I should have a piece in the formula for dropping your program. That's about the worst thing that can possibly happen, so maybe just take the team's points and multiply by zero. Voila...a lot of programs tied for last with zero points. As for when "All-Time" starts, I've explained it before, and I think it is pretty clear. The formula includes every non-exhibition game (as the game was classified at the time of its playing) and recognized achievement for the published programs, including games going back to the late 19th Century. In other words..."All-Time."
Sean Pickett said:
It sounds like you are questioning my efforts here. I'll let my work speak for itself, but I certainly tried and was unable to piece together complete records for most of the defunct programs. If you have complete records for defunct programs (outside of Iona, Fairfield, and Wayne State), please send them my way. I need every game the school played (preferably including dates, but at least the season), the score, and significant achievements (e.g. conference regular season and tournament championships, all-conference selections). Thanks!
Well, I've been posting this list here for just about six years, so I've had a lot of "help." FWIW, that's one of the great things about message boards is that everyone gets to express their ideas.
