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The Great Badger Coaching Search of '23: Start Drinking Heavily

If you could get Blashill then you will be very happy. I don't think he would leave the NHL to go back to the NCAA, but if you can get him I'd bet you would see an instant turn around.

If Blashill is keen on the NHL, then I dont think he is the right one unfortunately. I dont think MacIntosh wants to do another search in less than 7 yrs. He definitely wants to get this right for long term.

Plus Blashill seems like a Michigan guy thru and thru and mpre aligned professionally. Hasnt really ventured far outside of the state and only coached WMU for a yr.
 
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If you could get Blashill then you will be very happy. I don't think he would leave the NHL to go back to the NCAA, but if you can get him I'd bet you would see an instant turn around.

I agree Blashill would check all the boxes and very likely produce winners. He's a coach talented kids would line up to play for at UW.
Ironically our closest connection to him is maybe Tony Granato! Or Chelios as they both were on staff with Blashill in Detroit for a few years.
 
I like the kinda outside the box list. Biggest question is recruiting with these guys.

I think if you land one of the top available coaches in the world the recruiting work will get done. But yes, it is a big question.
Brando could remain for the Wisconsin connection, or another guy I wouldn't mind seeing on staff would be Hobey Blake. He has good talent evaluation skills and experience from working in the front office in the Blue Jackets organization. We need talent evaluation more than ever, given we're basically working with free agency. He's young enough to relate to the boys well and a just a tremendous guy. He could be a great recruiter. I mean, who would not want to play for Blake? Pretty unlikely, I suppose.
 
If Blashill is keen on the NHL, then I dont think he is the right one unfortunately. I dont think MacIntosh wants to do another search in less than 7 yrs. He definitely wants to get this right for long term.

I don't really get this. If you want a guy who's life long ambition ends with Wisconsin Hockey (alumni aside) I don't think you are probably hiring the best coach out there. Badger Bob wanted the NHL. The best ones all do because that's the peak of the profession. You get a great coach and then try to keep him. Don't hire someone that you think will stay because you figure UW is his ceiling.
Dave Tippett is one of the best coaches ever, something like 15th all time in NHL wins. He's 61 and just let go this season by Edmonton. I would take him in a heartbeat for 5 years. Get the ship righted, get back to the FF, restore the brand. Put a successor under him and we're good to go. Probably not gonna happen but why wouldn't you want the best hockey coach there is?
 
I don't really get this. If you want a guy who's life long ambition ends with Wisconsin Hockey (alumni aside) I don't think you are probably hiring the best coach out there. Badger Bob wanted the NHL. The best ones all do because that's the peak of the profession. You get a great coach and then try to keep him. Don't hire someone that you think will stay because you figure UW is his ceiling.
Dave Tippett is one of the best coaches ever, something like 15th all time in NHL wins. He's 61 and just let go this season by Edmonton. I would take him in a heartbeat for 5 years. Get the ship righted, get back to the FF, restore the brand. Put a successor under him and we're good to go. Probably not gonna happen but why wouldn't you want the best hockey coach there is?

I'm not saying UW is the ceiling or should be anyone's lifelong ambition. Its no different than few college football coaches being successful in the NFL. There is a clear distinction. Bob Johnson was there to build his resume, win championships, win, and get to the NHL, but he was more the exception than the rule.

What I'm saying is that you need someone invested in the college game and ranks. Not looking for the next best thing that comes along ala Bobby Petrino (sans affair with super attractive prior volleyball player lol).
 
I'm not saying UW is the ceiling or should be anyone's lifelong ambition. Its no different than few college football coaches being successful in the NFL. There is a clear distinction. Bob Johnson was there to build his resume, win championships, win, and get to the NHL, but he was more the exception than the rule.

What I'm saying is that you need someone invested in the college game and ranks. Not looking for the next best thing that comes along ala Bobby Petrino (sans affair with super attractive prior volleyball player lol).

I get what you're saying, I just don't think I agree. I also don't think football is very analogous to Hockey. College FB coaches can, and do, make NFL money for one thing. No college Hockey coach is making anywhere close to NHL money.

Petrino took an Arkansas team in shambles and put them in back to back New Years day bowl games his 3rd and 4th year. (If he could drive a motorcycle, he probably would have won a title there in year 5 or 6!)
We don't want a guy that puts us in the FF in two years? I would certainly take a David Quinn or Jim Montgomery right now. Quinn - horrible year, then 4 straight NCAA appearances including a title game loss. Then hired by the Rangers. Monty - 5 straight NCAA's, 2 FF's, and a title win. Then hired by Dallas.
If we get a coach that puts us in the title game 3 years in a row like Badger Bob did, the NHL IS going to offer them a job. And 99/100 guys are going to take it. But we don't want that guy because he's not a really invested in the college game? I just don't go along with that. I think that's the guy we want.
 
I would offer that the top end college coaches rarely jump or are successful in the NFL because of the lack of stability or capability for long term success

I dont think Wisconsin should purposefully put itself in a position where they potentially need to go on another head coaching search in less than 5 years. That is not a recipe for success.

There will always be suitors to a hyper successful team, of course. I agree with ya there. But I'd rather have a long term program builder and success over 10+yrs than 4 years of success right away followed by looking for another coach again in yr 5 because they bolted.
 
I would offer that the top end college coaches rarely jump or are successful in the NFL because of the lack of stability or capability for long term success

I dont think Wisconsin should purposefully put itself in a position where they potentially need to go on another head coaching search in less than 5 years. That is not a recipe for success.
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That's kind of like saying you don't want to marry the hottest chick in the bar, even though she wants you, because you think she'll leave you for something better in 5 years.

Sounds like a Paul Chryst type hire. Not gonna blow your mind... but he'll give you some decent moments and cook good turkey on Thanksgiving
 
That's kind of like saying you don't want to marry the hottest chick in the bar, even though she wants you, because you think she'll leave you for something better in 5 years.

Sounds like a Paul Chryst type hire. Not gonna blow your mind... but he'll give you some decent moments and cook good turkey on Thanksgiving

Why would you marry anyone if you had doubts about their committment and didnt put precautions in place? Lol Financial ruin in the near future be damned! Im getting married because she is hot!

That quite literally is the recipe for future despair for millioms of men lol.

Solely making serious long term decisions based on emotions or feelings is a cautionary tale as old as time in memorium. I dont care who they hire as long as they meet established criteria that set the team up for long term success.
 
I think it's an erroneous assumption to think that just because someone is a good NHL coach, that they will in turn be a good college coach; the two positions are completely different. It's so much more than understanding the game or a system. I would like to throw out there that there are probably some High School coaches who know as much about the game as some NHL coaches. They may not have won a Stanley Cup, but they understand the game, just like a good High School basketball coach or....pick your sport. A coach has to be able to motivate players and understand how to motivate them. Professional players can be motivated in ways that collegiate players cannot. It's not easy, as is proven by the seemingly revolving coach medley on display in the NHL every year. A coach moves from one team to another rarely staying more than 4 or 5 years, there are exceptions of course, but generally speaking, NHL coaches don't stick around for the long haul. They come in, impose their system, have some success, then things change and they end up looking for another job somewhere elsewhere and the cycle is repeated. Last year's worst coach becomes this year's Jack Adams winner and around and around we go. My hope is that we find someone who #1 understands the game and #2 understands how to motivate and develop young men and teach them to play as a cohesive unit, not as a bunch of over-achieving individuals. That person, no matter where they come from, will have success IMHO.
 
Replacing a coach leaves after 4-7 years because they exceeded expectations and were lured away to the Pro ranks is a good problem to have, particularly after the last 10-15 years.
 
Is anyone talking about Dan Muse as a candidate? USNDTP coaches are generally pretty solid. He's been around a while, assistant with Yale back when they won the Nat'l championship. I've been reading/listening more and more to hockey analysts mentioning him as a potentially solid option.
 
Replacing a coach leaves after 4-7 years because they exceeded expectations and were lured away to the Pro ranks is a good problem to have, particularly after the last 10-15 years.

Agreed. And hasn’t Denver and Nodak lost coaches in the last 10 years to the NHL and basically kept on winning (haven’t paid as much attention this year fyi)???
 
Is anyone talking about Dan Muse as a candidate? USNDTP coaches are generally pretty solid. He's been around a while, assistant with Yale back when they won the Nat'l championship. I've been reading/listening more and more to hockey analysts mentioning him as a potentially solid option.

He has been talked about here and I would be real happy if that is who we end up. He also won a USHL championship as a head coach and was an assistant in the NHL with Nashville. Probably helps solidify our commits from the NDTP and improving our recruiting from that program going forward would be really helpful. Pair him with an assistant that has ties to Western Canada and another with some Minnesota High School connections and off we go.
 
At the end of the day, I dont think Mac is goong to show his cards at all. And rightfully so. It wouldnt surprise me of he has folks sign non discolsure agreements about interviews. He proved as much with the football team.

And the press has been silent bc I think they are still gun shy about how wrong they got the football hiring woth "inside sources".

Outside of us throwing around names and preferences in actuality we dont have much to go on. Lol
 
Is anyone talking about Dan Muse as a candidate? USNDTP coaches are generally pretty solid. He's been around a while, assistant with Yale back when they won the Nat'l championship. I've been reading/listening more and more to hockey analysts mentioning him as a potentially solid option.

Yep, I think he would be good. Young, but with a great resume. Has won at NCAA assistant and USHL level and seems to be doing good with USNTDP. I'd rather have someone like him than a retread...
 
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