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The 2nd Term - Round 2 - Amensty for Some, Miniature AR-15s for Others...

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Something tells me I don't want to look up any of those things. :p It's like when a couple weeks ago a young person mentioned something about "Harlem style dancing" or whatever to me and I made the mistake of looking on youtube.

Rover almost made a good point, which is that the major political parties in this country are completely corrupt money machines that will say and do anything to gain more money and power for themselves, and it's time we all stopped supporting them but instead vote for individual candidates for office. Of course, many people are only willing to see or talk about one side of that coin.

While "both sides do it" may in fact be true, they aren't necessarily doing it at the same time which is a point I think the lamestream media misses when it tries to call everything 50/50.

Back in the 80's the Dems had the same problem the GOP does now. It was a party too beholden to certain interests (peaceniks, unions, etc) who were no longer popular with the electorate at large even if they had been a couple of decades earlier. Sound familiar?

The problem facing the GOP however is unprecedented, in that nowadays you have more influence as a fringe lunatic hurling rhetorical bombs than you do as a member aquiring seniority and a leadership position. That's because there's a robust and well paying industry out there waiting for you if you do on the right wing media circuit. Even becoming a lobbyist isn't a lucrative as there's no fame in that and you actually have to work once in awhile. There's no left wing counterpart at this point. Rove and co aren't competing against the Democrats. They're competing against the alure of becoming a house hold name on cable TV or talk radio. That's awful tough to pass up it seems.
 
Something tells me I don't want to look up any of those things. :p It's like when a couple weeks ago a young person mentioned something about "Harlem style dancing" or whatever to me and I made the mistake of looking on youtube.

Rover almost made a good point, which is that the major political parties in this country are completely corrupt money machines that will say and do anything to gain more money and power for themselves, and it's time we all stopped supporting them but instead vote for individual candidates for office. Of course, many people are only willing to see or talk about one side of that coin.

Sovereign citizens are actually entertaining in their craziness. They're kind of an offshoot of people who believe the income tax is illegal. They just take it about 20 steps further.
 
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One of the "lessons" from the McCarthy era (about which we were lectured endlessly) was the moral necessity to avoid "guilt by association." You know, the poor dude denied a high government job because "I went to a couple of meetings in the 30'--there was this hot Commie chick I wanted to ball." Now it's the left, with its customary comical self-righteousness, passing judgment on who is and is not a "racist" based entirely on political opposition to "the one"."

However, it is the left, led by HIM-B1 which embraces the racialist pimp Al Sharpton (around whom people have gotten dead). Who has done more to broaden the racial divide in America--this self-serving mountebank or all the anonymous as*sholes posting on websites combined? Remember the quote? He figured the Tawana Brawley hoax would make him the "baddest n-word in New York." Mission accomplished.
 
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One of the "lessons" from the McCarthy era (about which we were lectured endlessly) was the moral necessity to avoid "guilt by association." You know, the poor dude denied a high government job because "I went to a couple of meetings in the 30'--there was this hot Commie chick I wanted to ball." Now it's the left, with its customary comical self-righteousness, passing judgment on who is and is not a "racist" based entirely on political opposition to "the one"."

However, it is the left, led by HIM-B1 which embraces the racialist pimp Al Sharpton (around whom people have gotten dead). Who has done more to broaden the racial divide in America--this self-serving mountebank or all the anonymous as*sholes posting on websites combined? Remember the quote? He figured the Tawana Brawley hoax would make him the "baddest n-word in New York." Mission accomplished.

Thanks for the history lesson Old Pio. Not too many people out here remember the Army-McCarthy hearings but leave it to you to bring up events some 60 years in the past. I believe the Brawley hoax was sometime in the 1980's so you're getting a little closer to present day. Another 25 years to go!

However, I am going to give you some kudos for something. That is an excellent application of Karl Rovian tactics, which is to attack your opponents over something you yourself are doing. Problem is this was already tried (Paul Weasel Ryan attacking Obama for Medicare cuts that he put into his own budget) and the American people rejected it. Remember the quote? "It takes a lot of brass to accuse somebody of something you're doing".

Democrats aren't engaging in Obama was born in Kenya theories. Republicans are. After all the evidence that's been produced of the O's birthplace in Hawaii, anybody who persists in this now is a racist. Plan and simple.
 
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Thanks for the history lesson Old Pio. Not too many people out here remember the Army-McCarthy hearings but leave it to you to bring up events some 60 years in the past. I believe the Brawley hoax was sometime in the 1980's so you're getting a little closer to present day. Another 25 years to go!

However, I am going to give you some kudos for something. That is an excellent application of Karl Rovian tactics, which is to attack your opponents over something you yourself are doing. Problem is this was already tried (Paul Weasel Ryan attacking Obama for Medicare cuts that he put into his own budget) and the American people rejected it. Remember the quote? "It takes a lot of brass to accuse somebody of something you're doing".

Democrats aren't engaging in Obama was born in Kenya theories. Republicans are. After all the evidence that's been produced of the O's birthplace in Hawaii, anybody who persists in this now is a racist. Plan and simple.

Republicans aren't, either. It's the Prison Planet crowd. Once you get through your thick head that there aren't two distinct sides, we might be able to actually get somewhere.
 
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Thanks for the history lesson Old Pio. Not too many people out here remember the Army-McCarthy hearings but leave it to you to bring up events some 60 years in the past. I believe the Brawley hoax was sometime in the 1980's so you're getting a little closer to present day. Another 25 years to go!

However, I am going to give you some kudos for something. That is an excellent application of Karl Rovian tactics, which is to attack your opponents over something you yourself are doing. Problem is this was already tried (Paul Weasel Ryan attacking Obama for Medicare cuts that he put into his own budget) and the American people rejected it. Remember the quote? "It takes a lot of brass to accuse somebody of something you're doing".

Democrats aren't engaging in Obama was born in Kenya theories. Republicans are. After all the evidence that's been produced of the O's birthplace in Hawaii, anybody who persists in this now is a racist. Plan and simple.

". . .mouthy, superficial b*ll sh*t artist."
 
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I saw a story proving that the "History Channel" is racist because the the actor playing Satan in a show about the Bible resembles Obama, or something? I think what we're supposed to get out of it is that the History Channel is a bunch of religion-clinging racist Republicans and ought to be locked up. I'm sure it has something to do with "Kenya Birthers" too, since you know, they're probably Republicans. I can see now how this all fits together in Karl Rove's secret plan. About Kenya and stuff.
 
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I saw a story proving that the "History Channel" is racist because the the actor playing Satan in a show about the Bible resembles Obama, or something? I think what we're supposed to get out of it is that the History Channel is a bunch of religion-clinging racist Republicans and ought to be locked up. I'm sure it has something to do with "Kenya Birthers" too, since you know, they're probably Republicans. I can see now how this all fits together in Karl Rove's secret plan. About Kenya and stuff.

They're also undoubtedly "clinging to their guns," too.
 
I saw a story proving that the "History Channel" is racist because the the actor playing Satan in a show about the Bible resembles Obama, or something? I think what we're supposed to get out of it is that the History Channel is a bunch of religion-clinging racist Republicans and ought to be locked up. I'm sure it has something to do with "Kenya Birthers" too, since you know, they're probably Republicans. I can see now how this all fits together in Karl Rove's secret plan. About Kenya and stuff.

Its called "The Hitler Channel" and while I'm not sure of their political leanings in today's environment, I think we can assertain which side they were rooting for back then! :eek: :eek: :D

Republicans aren't, either. It's the Prison Planet crowd. Once you get through your thick head that there aren't two distinct sides, we might be able to actually get somewhere.


Flaggy, GOP Congresscritters are doing this. Its not just the talk radio crowd.

". . .mouthy, superficial b*ll sh*t artist."

What would you do without me Opie? :D
 
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Flaggy, GOP Congresscritters are doing this. Its not just the talk radio crowd.

Remember how I said that you believe that everyone who doesn't agree with you is an evil republican? You prove this once again.
 
Remember how I said that you believe that everyone who doesn't agree with you is an evil republican? You prove this once again.

Not at all, but I will tell you it would be nice if the normal Republicans would assert themselves once in awhile.

Take policy for example. The Boner came out and said he won't agree to *ANY* revenue hikes. That means by implication he thinks there's no gimmicks and other crap in the tax code. Really? "Normal" Republicans should step up and give him cover to agree to getting rid of the low hanging fruit in exchange for spending cuts.

Background checks on firearms. 90% of the population agrees with this. What's holding it up? I'm going to say whacko Republicans, but again it would be nice if the normal ones stepped up and asserted themselves.

So Flaggy, sometimes the shoe fits. A saner GOP would be nice for all of us, but as long as it keeps being held hostage by its more extreme elements I'll mock it all day long and twice on Sundays. There's a reason why the party has been outvoted in 5 out of the last 6 Presidential elections and suffers record unpopularity and that reason isn't the Dems/libs/whatever. Its their own fault. The first step is always admitting you have a problem.
 
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Not at all, but I will tell you it would be nice if the normal Republicans would assert themselves once in awhile.

Take policy for example. The Boner came out and said he won't agree to *ANY* revenue hikes. That means by implication he thinks there's no gimmicks and other crap in the tax code. Really? "Normal" Republicans should step up and give him cover to agree to getting rid of the low hanging fruit in exchange for spending cuts.

Background checks on firearms. 90% of the population agrees with this. What's holding it up? I'm going to say whacko Republicans, but again it would be nice if the normal ones stepped up and asserted themselves.

So Flaggy, sometimes the shoe fits. A saner GOP would be nice for all of us, but as long as it keeps being held hostage by its more extreme elements I'll mock it all day long and twice on Sundays. There's a reason why the party has been outvoted in 5 out of the last 6 Presidential elections and suffers record unpopularity and that reason isn't the Dems/libs/whatever. Its their own fault. The first step is always admitting you have a problem.
Why do feds need to do any more with background checks? Background checks are currently required, the problem isn't the laws, its the implementation of the laws.

As for low hanging fruit, isn't this a potato/potato thing...what you think is low hanging, the right does not and what the right thinks could be cut, you'll fight to the end to keep?

You also act like there aren't any insane lefties out there... how many lefties think Bush was behind 9-11? How many lefties have crazy theories about Cheney and all sorts of things?
 
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Untrue Shirtless. There are no background checks on private gun sales. That needs to happen as well as more enforcement as you mention.
 
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There's little doubt Cheney had a lot more sway in the Bush admin than most VPs do, as opposed to Biden who has to have his mouth taped shut because his bumbling incompetence is on display almost every time he speaks. Those conspiracy theories about Cheney's personal war profiteering were a bit far-fetched though.
 
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Well isn't THIS special:

DesJarlais Is No Pariah Despite Scandal
Rep. Scott DesJarlais (R-TN) "has been in political trouble since news reports revealed he pressured a former patient of his to get an abortion after they had an affair, details that emerged during divorce proceedings. Later, after he won reelection, reports showed he and his wife had agreed to have two abortions before their divorce," National Journal reports.

"But unlike some other scandal-wracked politicians like Anthony Weiner, Eric Massa, or Eliot Spitzer, DesJarlais hasn't become an outcast at all. Republican leaders haven't punished him. He still holds positions on the Agriculture and, yes, the Oversight and Government Reform committees. Even more glaring: He's getting fundraising assistance on Tuesday from six influential colleagues, including three committee chairmen (GOP Reps. Darrell Issa of California, John Kline of Minnesota, and Frank Lucas of Oklahoma) and two potential Senate candidates (Kline and Rep. Tom Price of Georgia)."

Really nice when The Morals Party keeps guys like this and David Vitter around. Apparently abortion is bad unless you're a Republican congressman who knocks up his mistress. Then, hey, its all good. :rolleyes:
 
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Well isn't THIS special:

DesJarlais Is No Pariah Despite Scandal
Rep. Scott DesJarlais (R-TN) "has been in political trouble since news reports revealed he pressured a former patient of his to get an abortion after they had an affair, details that emerged during divorce proceedings. Later, after he won reelection, reports showed he and his wife had agreed to have two abortions before their divorce," National Journal reports.

"But unlike some other scandal-wracked politicians like Anthony Weiner, Eric Massa, or Eliot Spitzer, DesJarlais hasn't become an outcast at all. Republican leaders haven't punished him. He still holds positions on the Agriculture and, yes, the Oversight and Government Reform committees. Even more glaring: He's getting fundraising assistance on Tuesday from six influential colleagues, including three committee chairmen (GOP Reps. Darrell Issa of California, John Kline of Minnesota, and Frank Lucas of Oklahoma) and two potential Senate candidates (Kline and Rep. Tom Price of Georgia)."

Really nice when The Morals Party keeps guys like this and David Vitter around. Apparently abortion is bad unless you're a Republican congressman who knocks up his mistress. Then, hey, its all good. :rolleyes:

Right from the left's playbook. They'll force an insane health regiment onto people, but they're exempt. :rolleyes:
 
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I notice no righties are celebrating the 10th anniversary of the Iraq invasion. Weren't we supposed to be greated as liberators? All you GWB worshipers who are STILL waiting for him to be vindicated (you know who you are, don't make me name names), any thoughts on whether or not that war was a good idea?
 
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There's little doubt Cheney had a lot more sway in the Bush admin than most VPs do, as opposed to Biden who has to have his mouth taped shut because his bumbling incompetence is on display almost every time he speaks. Those conspiracy theories about Cheney's personal war profiteering were a bit far-fetched though.

Cheney and Bush connections to military industrial and oil were undeniable. And whether it was 'profiteering' or just a personal bias towards outcomes that benefited those industries, the outcome is the same. Frankly, the outcomes are the same when there's just plain ole bad decision making based on any real lack of foresight that should be normal for the average person.
 
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I notice no righties are celebrating the 10th anniversary of the Iraq invasion. Weren't we supposed to be greated as liberators? All you GWB worshipers who are STILL waiting for him to be vindicated (you know who you are, don't make me name names), any thoughts on whether or not that war was a good idea?

I notice no libtards celebrate the anniversary of the Vietnam invasion. Weren't we supposed to be greated [sic] as liberators?
 
I notice no libtards celebrate the anniversary of the Vietnam invasion. Weren't we supposed to be greated [sic] as liberators?

Vietnam was to stop the spread of communism. There were communists infiltrating the country as even Ike knew when he sent troops there. Iraq was about ridding Saddam of WMD's. Tell me Flaggy, where there any WMD's when we invaded?

:rolleyes:
 
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