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The 2nd Term - Round 2 - Amensty for Some, Miniature AR-15s for Others...

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unofan said:
I don't know what's worse, that you're blaming the EPA for a power surge or that you're implying a 34 minute delay to a football game is the equivalent of 20 kindergartners getting massacred.

Actually, I do know what's worse. And I already regret asking for the explanation.
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So 20 children who, until they were killed, you didn't even know existed, is worth more to you than an entire country that directly affects you. Got it. :rolleyes:
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
"It's a government owned stadium, powered by heavily regulated electricity, with 26,000 LED lights, pushed by green energy zealots... what could go wrong?" Here's a report from energy.gov; the site making it available is the source for the quotation.
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LEDs restrike immediately , metal halide take 20 to 30 minutes to restrike and then come to full brightness. Any blip in the power and out go the lights for 20 to 30 minutes as the huge bank of lights are metal halide
 
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walrus said:
LEDs restrike immediately , metal halide take 20 to 30 minutes to restrike and then come to full brightness. Any blip in the power and out go the lights for 20 to 30 minutes as the huge bank of lights are metal halide
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I know how those lights work. My point is not with the lights being out for a specific amount of time, but the fact of the interruption itself, especially considering there was no reported weather-related hazard.
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
I know how those lights work. My point is not with the lights being out for a specific amount of time, but the fact of the interruption itself, especially considering there was no reported weather-related hazard.
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My lights blip all the time, if I lived in a house with metal Halide lighting I'd be waiting for them to restrike just like they did in the Dome. How long was power actually out anyway, from what I could tell it was closer to seconds than it was minutes.
 
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XYZ said:
Complex much? Link to nine campers in California killed by stray hunting bullets, please.

Since you're dumbfoundingly slow, we'll go through this step by step: You made a claim. Due my work history I knew enough to figure it had to come from either the California Department of Fish and Game or the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service. A thorough search of both sites yielded nothing. Since I've spent more time in the Sierras than you've spent anywhere outside of that kaleidoscope you call a mind, and I'd rather not be hit from a stray round out of a Marlin 30/30 while gallivanting through California, I asked for clarification.

So surely this shouldn't be so hard. Link, please. I'm merely looking out for my own safety here. Help a guy out.
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This only goes to 2010 fwiw: http://www.dfg.ca.gov/huntered/stats/

It claims 2 in 2010, 8 in 2009, 2 in 2008, 2 in 2007, 2 in 2005, 3 in 2004, etc. While 9 is possible it would be unlikely and surely an exception.
 
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Old Pio said:
Some poor kid will get one in his Easter basket and bring it to school (or worse, a picture of it) and will immediately be suspended.
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You and I think alike. My grandson is 4, so I'm thinking of waiting until kindergarten. His Mom will pitch a fit when he opens it. :D
 
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the Congressional Budget Office said Tuesday [that] will take another $2 trillion in belt-tightening over the next decade to begin to move the federal debt closer to historic levels
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Wasn't it St. Augustine who said, "Lord, make me chaste....but not yet?"

The CBO says we need to reduce the annual rate of increase in government spending. Obama and Democrats reply, "maybe so....but not yet..."

If not now, fellas (and gals), when?? :confused:
 
FreshFish said:
Wasn't it St. Augustine who said, "Lord, make me chaste....but not yet?"

The CBO says we need to reduce the annual rate of increase in government spending. Obama and Democrats reply, "maybe so....but not yet..."

If not now, fellas (and gals), when?? :confused:
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We can't find 200Bn a year? How hard is that? End crap like carried interest, oil & AG tax subsidies, let Medicare bargain for prescription drugs, tort reform, chained CPI and I think we're pretty close.
 
Rover said:
We can't find 200Bn a year? How hard is that? End crap like carried interest, oil & AG tax subsidies, let Medicare bargain for prescription drugs, tort reform, chained CPI and I think we're pretty close.
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645b to go.....
 
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FreshFish said:
Wasn't it St. Augustine who said, "Lord, make me chaste....but not yet?"

The CBO says we need to reduce the annual rate of increase in government spending. Obama and Democrats reply, "maybe so....but not yet..."

If not now, fellas (and gals), when?? :confused:
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Time it so the amount starts to skyrocket when the GOP comes back in office, that way the left can continue to finger point.
 
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Those of you, like Over, who persist in seeing everything as a partisan issue, sure miss out on a lot of interesting things.....

Some of us had speculated that Obama's "win" on taxes would be a Pyrrhic victory, especially given the way that the Republicans passed the temporary debt ceiling extension to go past the sequester date. Now the Republicans can just sit back and wait for the sequester to kick in or insist that the Democratic Senate pass their budget first, before the House does anything.

We were derided at the time, naturally......however, since we had no "horse in the race" being supporters of neither party, we were free to look at the situation purely from the perspective of a disinterested spectator and not at all as a cheerleader.

So, Over, how's that big 'victory' look now? how will it look in a month?


Politico reported that the White House had instituted a "gag order" on domestic cabinet departments, requiring them to clear any sequester comments with the Office of Management and Budget. The White House doesn't want the Department of Health and Human Services or the Housing Department spreading doom and gloom about furloughs and lost services, which would increase pressure on Democrats to tackle bigger budget reform. By contrast, the White House has been happy to let Pentagon officials decry the coming cuts, since that ups the pressure on Republicans
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we need permanently to reduce the rate of growth in spending. Be it a good Democrat proposal, be it a good bi-partisan proposal, whatever, I don't care. No more band-aids, no more pushing it off down the road. Time to do something substantive.

Taking S&P to court but not Moodys is not what I would consider "substantive." Shooting the messenger to silence the message is rarely good policy.
 
FreshFish said:
Those of you, like Over, who persist in seeing everything as a partisan issue, sure miss out on a lot of interesting things.....

Some of us had speculated that Obama's "win" on taxes would be a Pyrrhic victory, especially given the way that the Republicans passed the temporary debt ceiling extension to go past the sequester date. Now the Republicans can just sit back and wait for the sequester to kick in or insist that the Democratic Senate pass their budget first, before the House does anything.

We were derided at the time, naturally......however, since we had no "horse in the race" being supporters of neither party, we were free to look at the situation purely from the perspective of a disinterested spectator and not at all as a cheerleader.

So, Over, how's that big 'victory' look now? how will it look in a month?





we need permanently to reduce the rate of growth in spending. Be it a good Democrat proposal, be it a good bi-partisan proposal, whatever, I don't care. No more band-aids, no more pushing it off down the road. Time to do something substantive.

Taking S&P to court but not Moodys is not what I would consider "substantive." Shooting the messenger to silence the message is rarely good policy.
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Spoken like a true Fark Independent (tm). Just give up your nonpartisan spiel already. No one is buying it.
 
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