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The 2013 New England Patriots

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Aside from Polamalu, this might be a worse than the Pats defense. Wow.
 
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Aside from Polamalu, this might be a worse than the Pats defense. Wow.
Not sure why you're excluding Polamalu. That was a nice strip, but other than that he's starting to look pretty old to me.

Hate to agree with Phil Simms, but I didn't understand what Tomlin was trying to accomplish in that last drive. This is not a good pass blocking O-line, even when the D doesn't know you're passing, and there was a lot of activity around Roethisberger's knees. That was an injury waiting to happen.

Mookie, sorry you didn't see a better game.
 
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Cautiously optimistic the the O is starting to come together. Gronk, Amendola, and Edelman as primarily options with Dobson as a deep threat plus the return of Vereen after the bye week isn't too shabby. Brady looked much sharper this game even though he took a few hits which is a good sign.

Agreed on Talib. They're not going to beat the Denvers of the world without him in the line up.
 
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Cautiously optimistic the the O is starting to come together. Gronk, Amendola, and Edelman as primarily options with Dobson as a deep threat plus the return of Vereen after the bye week isn't too shabby. Brady looked much sharper this game even though he took a few hits which is a good sign.

Agreed on Talib. They're not going to beat the Denvers of the world without him in the line up.
So where was Thompkins yesterday? Inactive? Injured? Of the rookies, I thought he looked better than Dobson to this point. In any case, it's been difficult to be patient, but we may have and outside passing game by the end of the season, especially if Gronk can draw attention to the middle of the field.
 
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So where was Thompkins yesterday? Inactive? Injured? Of the rookies, I thought he looked better than Dobson to this point. In any case, it's been difficult to be patient, but we may have and outside passing game by the end of the season, especially if Gronk can draw attention to the middle of the field.

I was wondering that too. I know with Amendola being back someone had to lose playing time. Maybe Dobson's looked good in practice or something.
 
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Thomkins was inactive
Thanks. That's probably a good thing. Thompkins has a lot of upside, but there's probably a reason that he wasn't drafted, and Amendola's injury probably forced him into a role he wasn't ready for yet. Assuming he's not hurt, he now has a chance to learn the offense and how to play receiver at the NFL level in practice, without being under a microscope. The offense may have a bright future. Which is probably a good thing, because the O may need to carry the team the rest of the year. You don't lose players like Wilfork and Mayo and not suffer a letdown.
 
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You don't lose players like Wilfork and Mayo and not suffer a letdown.
A letdown for sure but
Talib is a bigger issue than either of those guys, I think the nose tackle by committee is working and the LBs haven't lost a step. The D has been ok, way better than the last few years. Its the O thats been the issue, 1 TD in the 3rd all season is what I've heard, thats pathetic
 
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It' just frustrating after all these years that the defense is really starting to play well and looking like it could really compliment the offense and they're dropping like flies.The young nose tackles are playing well but they're going to miss Vince in the long run.
 
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A letdown for sure but
Talib is a bigger issue than either of those guys, I think the nose tackle by committee is working and the LBs haven't lost a step. The D has been ok, way better than the last few years. Its the O thats been the issue, 1 TD in the 3rd all season is what I've heard, thats pathetic
Agree on the importance of Talib, but I'm assuming he's coming back, hopefully after the bye.
 
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A letdown for sure but
Talib is a bigger issue than either of those guys, I think the nose tackle by committee is working and the LBs haven't lost a step. The D has been ok, way better than the last few years. Its the O thats been the issue, 1 TD in the 3rd all season is what I've heard, thats pathetic

Agreed. Talib is the difference between challenging for the conference title or going home in the first round. Wilfork is missed no doubt about it but as you say they seem to have plugged the gap okay so far. Mayo is a bit overrated as most of his tackles happened after the RB gained 6 yards and Hightower and Spikes have stepped up.

I'm a bit less worried about the O now except for the play calling. Maybe when Vereen gets back they'll utilize the short dump off pass to beat the blitz athough Gronk might help with that too. They have the personnel to score on anybody in this league.
 
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The lesson here is that the refs can't be trusted in close games and the Pats need to not take off entire halves.
 
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ah ha!!!

so the espn ref is explaining. since the pass was SHORT you can hold gronk. the pass to dobson was over his head and out of bounds -- so THAT was pass interference even though couldn't be caught.

got it
 
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