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The 2011-2012 ECAC Posters Pool

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scrambledlegs said:
Thanks. I did look it up since I have thought that was the rule for 5 years so I wanted to clarify it in my mind :eek:

Anyway, the rules only talk to number of hours per week....

17.02.1 Countable Athletically Related ActivitiesCountable athletically related activities include any required activity with an athletics purpose involving student-athletes and at the direction of, or supervised by one or more of an institution's coaching staff (including strength and conditioning coaches) and must be counted within the weekly and daily limitations under Bylaw 17.1.5.1 and 17.1.5.2. Administrative activities (e.g., academic meetings, compliance meetings) shall not be considered as countable athletically related activities. Revised: 10/31/02 effective 8/1/03)

17.1.5.1 Daily and Weekly Hour Limitations-Playing SeasonA student-athlete’s participation in countable athletically related activities (see Bylaw 17.02.1) shall be limited to a maximum of four hours per day and 20 hours per week. (Adopted: 1/10/91 effective 8/1/91)

(And in case you were wondering how game days were counted, since they seem to last all day!)

17.1.5.3.2 Competition Day.All competition and any associated athletically related activities on the day of competition shall count as three hours regardless of the actual duration of these activities.
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Was aware of the Weekly limits, AKA the 20/8 rule. There have been debates on it in the past. Here is an example:

http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/NCAANewsArc...id+about+20-hour+rule+-+1-2-06+ncaa+news.html
 
Re: The 2011-2012 ECAC Posters Pool - Week three lineup.

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hockeyfan111 said:
Pretty sure it's not a rule and more a general guideline as the Hockey East teams (and Harvard) tend to get swamped with many games over a 7-10 day time frame as they also compete in the Beanpot. I looked back and BC played 5 games in 8 days in the beginning of February. Alot of wear and tear in a short period of time and I do remember the team being physically and mentally drained at that point. Scheduling conflicts with the arena and other factors tend to lead to such a tought time frame.
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As an interesting aside, in the CIS (Canadian Intercollegiate Sports), there is a rule where a womens college hockey team playing in a tournament, only counts for one or two games against your total tally, even if you play three or more games in the tournament. Not too long ago there was a tournament hosted at the local U, where each attending CIS team played four games in four consecutive days.
 
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Tuesday, October 25:
Cornell at Colgate

Friday, October 28:
Princeton at Union
Quinnipiac at Rensselaer
Brown at Colgate
Dartmouth at Clarkson
Harvard at St. Lawrence
Yale at Cornell

Saturday, October 29:
Brown at Cornell
Princeton at Rensselaer
Quinnipiac at Union
Dartmouth at St. Lawrence
Harvard at Clarkson TIE
Yale at Colgate
 
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Tuesday, October 25:
Cornell at Colgate EC 7:00 pm ET

Friday, October 28:
Princeton at Union EC 3:00 pm ET
Quinnipiac at Rensselaer EC 3:00 pm ET
Brownat Colgate EC 7:00 pm ET
Dartmouth at Clarkson EC 7:00 pm ET
Harvard at St. Lawrence EC 7:00 pm ET
Yale at Cornell EC 7:00 pm ET

Saturday, October 29:
Brown at Cornell EC 3:00 pm ET
Princeton at Rensselaer EC 3:00 pm ET
Quinnipiac at Union EC 3:00 pm ET
Dartmouth at St. Lawrence EC 4:00 pm ET
Harvard at Clarkson EC 4:00 pm ET
Yale at Colgate EC 4:00 pm ET
 
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Tuesday, October 25:
Cornell at Colgate EC 7:00 pm ET

Friday, October 28:
Princeton at Union EC 3:00 pm ET
Quinnipiac at Rensselaer EC 3:00 pm ET
Brown at Colgate EC 7:00 pm ET
Dartmouth at Clarkson EC 7:00 pm ET
Harvard at St. Lawrence EC 7:00 pm ET
Yale at Cornell EC 7:00 pm ET

Saturday, October 29:
Brown at Cornell EC 3:00 pm ET
Princeton at Rensselaer EC 3:00 pm ET
Quinnipiac at Union TIE EC 3:00 pm ET
Dartmouth at St. Lawrence EC 4:00 pm ET
Harvard at Clarkson EC 4:00 pm ET
Yale at Colgate EC 4:00 pm ET
 
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Forgot this one.............

Tuesday, October 25:
Cornell at Colgate EC 7:00 pm ET
 
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hab said:
Looks like DC78-82 has some company this coming weekend, in predicting a Union win. I do think that U may have a chance of escaping the cellar this year and may post some surprising wins, but its still a gutsy call to go with them in any given game.
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Union lost too many close games last year and Princeton is playing with a short bench right now. I figure Union players have to reward Coach Asano for her new contract and this looked like a good bet. We'll see!!
 
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Tuesday, October 25:
Cornell at Colgate EC 7:00 pm ET

Friday, October 28:
Princeton at Union EC 3:00 pm ET
Quinnipiac at Rensselaer EC 3:00 pm ET
Brown at Colgate EC 7:00 pm ET
Dartmouth at Clarkson EC 7:00 pm ET
Harvard at St. Lawrence EC 7:00 pm ET
Yale at Cornell EC 7:00 pm ET

Saturday, October 29:
Brown at Cornell EC 3:00 pm ET
Princeton at Rensselaer EC 3:00 pm ET
Quinnipiac at Union TIE EC 3:00 pm ET
Dartmouth at St. Lawrence EC 4:00 pm ET
Harvard at Clarkson EC 4:00 pm ET
Yale at Colgate EC 4:00 pm ET

Tuesday - I have no idea who won but, Cornell had to come out on top!! And is there anyone who would have picked differently?
 
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HockeyTeacher said:
Tuesday - I have no idea who won but, Cornell had to come out on top!! And is there anyone who would have picked differently?
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Nice try, but gotta be consistent to all players. You snooze, you lose.
 
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Here are the rankings for this week's picks based on how Courageous (crazy?) or Wimpy (wise?) they are. A score of zero means that you picked the favourite in every game (based on the Rutter rankings by LakersFan). Where you went out on a limb and predicted an upset you were awarded points based on the difference between the two teams' Rutter points (predicting that Union will upset Princeton is worth 1.83 but predicting that Clarkson will "upset" Harvard is worth only .02).
From most courageous to wimpiest:
Cali 3.97
sheba 2.43
Hux 1.78
hab 1.60
SlewFoot 1.48
DC78-82 1.44
mattj711 0.98
Rinktaxi 0.68
OnMAA 0.34
Atl.Puck 0.02

All of which proves only that I have too much time on my hands.
 
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hab said:
Here are the rankings for this week's picks based on how Courageous (crazy?) or Wimpy (wise?) they are. A score of zero means that you picked the favourite in every game (based on the Rutter rankings by LakersFan). Where you went out on a limb and predicted an upset you were awarded points based on the difference between the two teams' Rutter points (predicting that Union will upset Princeton is worth 1.83 but predicting that Clarkson will "upset" Harvard is worth only .02).
From most courageous to wimpiest:
Cali 3.97
sheba 2.43
Hux 1.78
hab 1.60
SlewFoot 1.48
DC78-82 1.44
mattj711 0.98
Rinktaxi 0.68
OnMAA 0.34
Atl.Puck 0.02

All of which proves only that I have too much time on my hands.
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I think in my case you are giving me way too much credit, confusing courage with knowledge. Many selections fall into the WAG category. Acchhh well, we will see..
 
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hab said:
Here are the rankings for this week's picks based on how Courageous (crazy?) or Wimpy (wise?) they are. A score of zero means that you picked the favourite in every game (based on the Rutter rankings by LakersFan). Where you went out on a limb and predicted an upset you were awarded points based on the difference between the two teams' Rutter points (predicting that Union will upset Princeton is worth 1.83 but predicting that Clarkson will "upset" Harvard is worth only .02).
From most courageous to wimpiest:
Cali 3.97
sheba 2.43
Hux 1.78
hab 1.60
SlewFoot 1.48
DC78-82 1.44
mattj711 0.98
Rinktaxi 0.68
OnMAA 0.34
Atl.Puck 0.02

All of which proves only that I have too much time on my hands.
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But not enough time to get the complete picture ...U forgot one...Where is Hockey Teacher's stats ? :D
 
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OnMAA said:
But not enough time to get the complete picture ...U forgot one...Where is Hockey Teacher's stats ? :D
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Teach comes in at third wimpiest, with a score of 0.51, mostly on the basis of picking Dartmouth over St.Lawrence (0.43 points), which is the most popular "upset" prediction. Eight of us, out of eleven, picked the "underdog" Big Green in that one. Interesting that it is hard to get through a post on "rankings" without using serveral "quotation" marks to indicate the degree of "skepticism".:rolleyes:
 
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hab said:
Teach comes in at third wimpiest, with a score of 0.51, mostly on the basis of picking Dartmouth over St.Lawrence (0.43 points), which is the most popular "upset" prediction. Eight of us, out of eleven, picked the "underdog" Big Green in that one. Interesting that it is hard to get through a post on "rankings" without using serveral "quotation" marks to indicate the degree of "skepticism".:rolleyes:
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While your math may suggest I'm a wimp, your logic may be flawed. I was one of the posters that picked the SLU home team in this game. Based on the USCHO rankings, Dartmouth should be the favorite in this game, not SLU.

Too bad the WCHODR model from SLU ( http://it.stlawu.edu/~chodr/wchodr/current.html ) is no longer active.
 
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OnMAA said:
While your math may suggest I'm a wimp, your logic may be flawed. I was one of the posters that picked the SLU home team in this game. Based on the USCHO rankings, Dartmouth should be the favorite in this game, not SLU.

Too bad the WCHODR model from SLU ( http://it.stlawu.edu/~chodr/wchodr/current.html ) is no longer active.
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I use the rankings from LakersFan rather than the polls because it covers all teams and also gives a numerical weight to each team, rather than just a rank. However, I went back and checked my calcs and found several (ahem):o errors, so I redid the math. Points are only given where the poster predicts an upset, and then the points awarded are the difference between the two teams' Rutter scores (so, for instance Cali scores big for picking Union over Princeton (1.83 points) while the 5 people who pick Clarkson over Harvard get only 0.02 points). I treat ties the same way, because although you could argue that a tie is less of an upset than a victory by the underdog, the probability of a tie in any given game is a lot less than the probability of a win by one of the teams (especially in leagues like this which have sudden death overtime), so I figure that anyone who predicts a tie deserves courage points. The newly calculated numbers (drum roll, please), starting with the highest (courageous) to lowest (wimpy) are:
Cali 3.37
DC 78-82 2.85
Hux 2.67
RinkTaxi 1.79
mattj711 1.76
sheba 1.62
hab 1.29
SlewFoot 1.16
HockeyTeacher 0.76
AtlanticPuck 0.27
OnMAA 0.02
 
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