The 112th Congress: Debt ceiling edition

[dxmnkd316]

Re: The 112th Congress: Debt ceiling edition

No, that was just a rant not connected to the emissions thing.

My mistake.

 

[leswp1]

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My mistake.

new audience, everyone in my real life has already head this rant.

 

[bigblue_dl]

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I, for one, have no breathing problems, and I like the smell of apple pie so I will keep using my little glade plug-ins so my house keeps smelling like freshly baked apple pie when I get home from work.

 

[5mn_Major]

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Air fresheners, candles, etc?

Just turn off the AC for once and open the windows.

 

[bigblue_dl]

Re: The 112th Congress: Debt ceiling edition

Air fresheners, candles, etc?

Just turn off the AC for once and open the windows.

I go with the AC off and windows open as often as possible, which is fairly often. No matter how often the windows are open, I can't get rid of the musty smell in the basement, which is probably common for most basements.

 

[Kepler]

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I go with the AC off and windows open as often as possible, which is fairly often. No matter how often the windows are open, I can't get rid of the musty smell in the basement, which is probably common for most basements.

Covering the smell of mold is not really an optimal strategy -- you have to stop it from growing in the first place. I run a dehumidifier in my basement about 10 hours a day.

 

[Bakunin]

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I, for one, have no breathing problems, and I like the smell of apple pie so I will keep using my little glade plug-ins so my house keeps smelling like freshly baked apple pie when I get home from work.

Haven't you found a girl to bake those for you yet?

 

[unofan]

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Haven't you found a girl to bake those for you yet?

He should really give banana bread a try. I hear it's something you can do well even when single...

 

[Priceless]

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His family must eat a lot.

Rep. John Fleming (R-LA) appeared on MSNBC with Chris Jansing this morning to attack President Obama’s new deficit reduction plan, which includes rolling back tax rates for the wealthy. Taking up the typical GOP talking point, Fleming said raising taxes on wealthy “job creators” is a terrible idea that kills jobs because many of these people are small business owners who pay taxes through personal income rates.

Fleming is himself a businesses owner, so Jansing asked, “If you have to pay more in taxes, you would get rid of some of those employees?” Fleming responded by saying that while his businesses made $6.3 million last year, after you “pay 500 employees, you pay rent, you pay equipment, and food,” his profits “a mere fraction of that” — “by the time I feed my family, I have maybe $400,000 left over.” Watch it:

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Jansing pointed out that whining about tax increases while making $400,000 annually is “not exactly a sympathetic position.” Fleming could only respond by saying that “class warfare has never created a job” and that his success is a “virtue.” But he noticeably never answered Jansing’s question about whether he would actually be forced to lay off workers if his taxes went up.

Considering that he has $400,000 “left over,” it seems that Fleming could actually afford to hire workers and still bring home a respectable pay. The average household income in the U.S. in 2010 was just under $50,000 — down 2.3 percent from 2009 and lower than it was in 1997.

Link

 

[Bob Gray]

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Obama throws out a $3 billion supposed deficit reduction plan.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/09/19/usa-debt-idUSS1E78I0K320110919

You have to wonder just how much of the American public won't connect the dots that just a few days ago he was wanting to spend half a billion or so additional on his jobs bill, the latest in a number of spend more ideas he has thrown out. Again, either he's math challenged or he assumes the American public is. Maybe both are?

 

[Foxton]

Re: The 112th Congress: Debt ceiling edition

Obama throws out a $3 billion supposed deficit reduction plan.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/09/19/usa-debt-idUSS1E78I0K320110919

You have to wonder just how much of the American public won't connect the dots that just a few days ago he was wanting to spend half a billion or so additional on his jobs bill, the latest in a number of spend more ideas he has thrown out. Again, either he's math challenged or he assumes the American public is. Maybe both are?

Already covered in the super congress thread, you wanker.

 

[5mn_Major]

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I am of the belief that we need to push on all fronts to lower the deficit...including both cuts and increasing revs (which Obama's plan does).

Having said that, I wish there was a more effective way to segment out earnings better. I respect an entreprenuer who has built a company from the ground up and created incremental wealth for society (including workers). They deserve to be rewarded for their ingenuity and hard work. Having said that, folks who just make big dough by investing many millions don't really add value.

And I still don't buy the argument that those with a big wad of cash are going to put it under the mattress if tax on long term cap gains goes above 15%.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

Re: The 112th Congress: Debt ceiling edition

Obama throws out a $3 billion supposed deficit reduction plan.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/09/19/usa-debt-idUSS1E78I0K320110919

You have to wonder just how much of the American public won't connect the dots that just a few days ago he was wanting to spend half a billion or so additional on his jobs bill, the latest in a number of spend more ideas he has thrown out. Again, either he's math challenged or he assumes the American public is. Maybe both are?

It's funny cause I just saw Eric Schmidt (The CEO of one of the largest and biggest success stories in American business) endorse Obama's jobs bill.

"Business can create enormous numbers of new jobs in America, all we need to see is more demand," Schmidt said.

Clearly he's an idiot.

http://media.cbronline.com/news/googles-eric-schmidt-supports-obamas-jobs-bill-190911

 

[5mn_Major]

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CNBC (financial news) had an informal poll of their viewers today. 60% of their viewers were in favor of tax hikes on $1m plus to help balance the budget vs. 40% against. This is 'the' pro biz demo.

 

[Bob Gray]

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It's funny cause I just saw Eric Schmidt (The CEO of one of the largest and biggest success stories in American business) endorse Obama's jobs bill.



Clearly he's an idiot.

http://media.cbronline.com/news/googles-eric-schmidt-supports-obamas-jobs-bill-190911

Oh, heavens. Someone endorsed Obama's jobs bill. Well, I'm on board with spending half a trillion or so. Sign me up for my share of deficit service for the rest of my life as well as further devaluation of my assets.

 

[Kepler]

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If Obama took a Republican plan and wrote his name on it, Republicans would reject it.

 

[Priceless]

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I am of the belief that we need to push on all fronts to lower the deficit...including both cuts and increasing revs (which Obama's plan does).

Having said that, I wish there was a more effective way to segment out earnings better. I respect an entreprenuer who has built a company from the ground up and created incremental wealth for society (including workers). They deserve to be rewarded for their ingenuity and hard work. Having said that, folks who just make big dough by investing many millions don't really add value.

Fortunately, 98% of small businesses don't qualify for the top 2 brackets so the tax rollback won't even impact them.

 

[Priceless]

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CNBC (financial news) had an informal poll of their viewers today. 60% of their viewers were in favor of tax hikes on $1m plus to help balance the budget vs. 40% against. This is 'the' pro biz demo.

All that shows is that 60% of business owners are Socialists.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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Oh, heavens. Someone endorsed Obama's jobs bill. Well, I'm on board with spending half a trillion or so. Sign me up for my share of deficit service for the rest of my life as well as further devaluation of my assets.

This is what's wrong with this country. The relevance to my posting wasn't that it was "someone", as you flippantly described it. The relevance was "who" that someone was.

Course your plan is the same as all the Republicans. Slash government spending and 0% taxes for job creators. It's an amazing world where someone asks rich people to pay the same percentage as poor people and the poor people are the ones playing the class warfare card. Gotta love it. No different then when we have a huge DEMAND problem in the economy and the solution is SUPPLY side.

 

[leswp1]

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Haven't you found a girl to bake those for you yet?

He keeps trying them out but hasn't found a keeper yet...

If Obama took a Republican plan and wrote his name on it, Republicans would reject it.

I think that was much of the healthcare bill that had been the GOP proposal yrs ago but then didn't look so good with the wrong guy on the label. So tired of the sheep that baa in either direction without actually thinking before they reject stuff. And for pity's sake can the GOP please propose something that might look like a compromise? Not enamored with the Dems but I am less enamored with the GOP having it's main talking point be "NO~!" or so extreme that the general public won't like it. This is like a bad soap opera that you turn off after seeing the same plot with different characters.