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The 112th Congress - A Congress divided shall not cry!

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CNN is reporting that one of the deceased is Gabe Zimmerman, a staffer for the Congresswoman.

In other news, there are some real loons out there:

CNN's comment section, like Yahoos, and Politico's are a breeding ground for the real nuts and people that seem like script bots.
 
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MSNBC is reporting there was a "suspicious package" found in the Congresswoman's office. It's just a flash on the screen, no idea if it's her office in Tucson or DC.
 
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The sheriff just said the suspect did not act alone, they have photos (video?) of the possible accomplice and are searching for him.

The sheriff looks visibly shaken by this. It seems he knew the judge and the Congresswoman quite well. I feel for him.

Edit: The suspects is white, probably in his 50's according to the sheriff.
Sheriff confirmed that the judge was there by chance, he even used the phrase "wrong place at the wrong time."
Edit2: The person they are seeking is a "person of interest" not necessarily a "suspect."
Edit 3: The House has tabled the upcoming legislation scheduled for next week.
 
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This is not only tragic, but one has to wonder about the ramifications toward public rallies in the future. I hope that there won't be an overreaction (if you can call it that given what transpired) but time will tell...
 
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Agreed slap shot. Beyond the terrible tragedy of lives lost and horrrible physical injuries and mental distress, this will completely change the way we have access to our elected officials. It's sad. What was great about the health care debate is that it WAS debated in public.
 
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CNN's comment section, like Yahoos, and Politico's are a breeding ground for the real nuts and people that seem like script bots.
Ugh. The worst I've seen are the wackos on FARK; they've already outlined a huge Tea Party conspiracy to kill the judge and the congresswoman.

CNN is saying she is 'gravely wounded'. I've just heard about this and don't really know any more than this.
 
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Tea party conspiracy? Paul Krugman put that out earlier today. What a doofus.
 
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From Twitter:
Spam bots, you're not making a good case for your porn sites by describing them with the phrases "Jared Lee Loughner" and "Jar Jar Binks."

Some of the stuff on here is appalling.
 
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he was not just a mad-man incited by a thousand daily temptations by slightly less-mad-men to do things they would not rationally condone.

He fired today into our liberty and our rights to live and to agree or disagree in safety and in freedom from fear that our support or opposition will cost us our lives or our health or our sense of safety. The bullseye might just as well have been on mrs. Palin, or mr. Kelly, or you, or me. The wrong, the horror, would have been - could still be just as real and just as unacceptable.

At a time of such urgency and impact, we as americans - conservative or liberal - should pour our hearts and souls into politics. We should not - none of us, not gabby giffords and not any conservative - ever have to pour our blood. And every politician and commentator who hints otherwise, or worse still stays silent now, should have no place in our political system, and should be denied that place, not by violence, but by being shunned and ignored.

It is a simple pledge, it is to the point, and it is essential that every american politician and commentator and activist and partisan take it and take it now, i say it first, and freely:

Violence, or the threat of violence, has no place in our democracy, and i apologize for and repudiate any act or any thing in my past that may have even inadvertently encouraged violence. Because for whatever else each of us may be, we all are americans.
 
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Also killed was 9-year-old Christina Taylor Green of Tucson.

A neighbor was going to the Giffords event and invited Christina along because she thought she would enjoy it, said her uncle, Greg Segalini.

Christina had just been elected to the student council at her school. The event, held outside a Safeway supermarket north of Tucson, was an opportunity for constituents to meet Giffords and talk about any concerns they had related to the federal government.

"The next thing you know this happened. How do you prepare for something like this. My little niece got killed-took one on the chest and she is dead," Segalini said outside the girl's house.

Christina was involved in many activities, from ballet to baseball, Segalini said.

"She was real special and real sweet," Segalini said.

The other victims include Dorwin Stoddard, Dorthy Murray and Phyllis Scheck.

Gifford's deputy director Ron Barber also was injured in the shooting but was OK, said C.J. Karamargin, Giffords' communications director. He was not at the event.

Another staffer, Pam Simon, was also hit, Karamargin said, but she will also be alright.

And from KOLD:
The 9-year-old who was shot dead today at the Giffords event was featured in a book “Faces of Hope: Babies Born on 9/11.

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The identity of the 9-year-old tragically killed in this morning's deadly rampage is Christina Taylor Greene.

Family says she was vibrant, excited about life, and she was the "best daughter in the world."

Born on September 11, 2001, Greene was excited about the political process, was on the student government, and went to the Giffords event today to learn more about the political process, family members say.

Greene attended Mesa Verde Elementary School. She was the only girl on the CDO baseball team - she loved the sport, as well as horseback riding and swimming.

The Pima County Sheriff's Office has released the identities of the six people killed in this morning's tragic shooting.

-John Roll, 63, a federal district court judge.

-Gabriel Zimmerman, 30, Giffords' director of community outreach

-Dorwin Stoddard, 76, a pastor at Mountain Ave. Church of Christ.

-Christina Greene, 9, a student at Mesa Verde Elementary

-Dorthy Murray, 76

-Phyllis Scheck, 79

The suspect is being interviewed at PCSO headquarters currently, and will be transported to jail later this evening, deputies say.
 
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Ugh. The worst I've seen are the wackos on FARK; they've already outlined a huge Tea Party conspiracy to kill the judge and the congresswoman.

A lot of people are latching on to a sort of meta-truth about all this.... and ignoring primary sources before them in an attempt to further their own cause.
 
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They said on the Telly this morning that the little girl just got voted into the student council at school and wanted to learn more about government. That's why she was at the rally.
 
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They said on the Telly this morning that the little girl just got voted into the student council at school and wanted to learn more about government. That's why she was at the rally.

I just watched the replay of the interview with the mom that was on Fox's morning show. That was rough watching it.
 
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Christina was the grand-daughter of former Philadelphia manager Dallas Green. Her father is a scout for the Dodgers.

"We lost a member of the Dodgers family today," Dodgers owner Frank McCourt said in a statement released by the team. "The entire Dodgers organization is mourning the death of John's daughter Christina, and will do everything we can to support John, his wife Roxana and their son Dallas in the aftermath of this senseless tragedy. I spoke with John earlier today and expressed condolences on behalf of the entire Dodgers organization."

Christina-Taylor Green was born the day of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks in 2001 and was featured in a book, "Faces of Hope," on children who shared that birthday.

An uncle of the 9-year-old girl told the Arizona Republic that a neighbor was going to the event and invited her along because she had just been elected to the student council and was interested in government.

Her father told the Arizona Daily Star that she had become interested in politics from a young age. She also played second base on her Little League baseball team, the paper said.

Dallas Green is a former pitcher and manager in the major leagues. He's an executive advisor for the Phillies, the team he managed to the World Series championship in 1980. He also managed the New York Yankees and New York Mets.
 
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In a Sunday morning appearance on Face the Nation, Senate Minority Whip Jon Kyl (R-AZ) took issue with Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik, who criticized Arizona hours after the Giffords shooting.

"I didn't really think that that had any part in a law enforcement briefing," Kyl said.

In a candid moment at a press conference on Saturday, Dupnik said his state had become ground zero for the sort of political rhetoric that foments violence.

"When you look at unbalanced people, how they respond to the vitriol that comes out of certain mouths about tearing down the government. The anger, the hatred, the bigotry that goes on in this country is getting to be outrageous," Dupnik said. "And unfortunately, Arizona I think has become sort of the capital. We have become the mecca for prejudice and bigotry."

With that remark, ironically, Dupnik has become the target of just the sort of rhetoric he was decrying.
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Perhaps. But so is the Sherrif.

I'll chalk this up as one more reason why I never want to live in Arizona.

Yep. Thank goodness there is still some difference between the States despite the Feds getting more and more and more involved every year.
 
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This was reported last week, before the shooting:

Another Ohio Democrat, Steve Driehaus, clashed repeatedly with Boehner before losing his seat in the midterm elections. After Boehner suggested that by voting for Obamacare, Driehaus "may be a dead man" and "can't go home to the west side of Cincinnati" because "the Catholics will run him out of town," Driehaus began receiving death threats, and a right-wing website published directions to his house.

Driehaus says he approached Boehner on the floor and confronted him.

"I didn't think it was funny at all," Driehaus says. "I've got three little kids and a wife. I said to him, 'John, this is bull****, and way out of bounds. For you to say something like that is wildly irresponsible.'"

Driehaus is quick to point out that he doesn't think Boehner meant to urge anyone to violence. "But it's not about what he intended — it's about how the least rational person in my district takes it. We run into some crazy people in this line of work."

Driehaus says Boehner was "taken aback" when confronted on the floor, but never actually said he was sorry: "He said something along the lines of, 'You know that's not what I meant.' But he didn't apologize."
 
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