The 112th Congress - A Congress divided shall not cry!

[ScoobyDoo]

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So, is the jobs, jobs, jobs bill from the new Republican House the budget slashing? Cause I can't find anything on what they're going to do about jobs. And I'm quoting Boehner here, "Jobs, Jobs, Jobs."

 

[WeWantMore]

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So, is the jobs, jobs, jobs bill from the new Republican House the budget slashing? Cause I can't find anything on what they're going to do about jobs. And I'm quoting Boehner here, "Jobs, Jobs, Jobs."

Indeed. Time for another stimulus I say. It worked so well the first time.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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Indeed. Time for another stimulus I say. It worked so well the first time.

Not my point.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/02/22/with-g-o-p-help-senate-advances-jobs-bill/

In a rare bipartisan breakthrough, the Senate pushed a $15 billion measure intended to spur job creation over a crucial preliminary obstacle Monday night after five Senate Republicans broke ranks to back consideration of the Democratic leadership initiative.

Here is the point, right here.

“Millions of Americans want to get back to work,” said Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the Republican leader. “That’s why Republicans will offer ideas that will make it easier for businesses to hire new workers. Those ideas should be considered too.”

What is Mitch's idea? Is it a secret???????

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/debbie-hines/dems-to-gop-when-arethe-j_b_822620.html

After winning over Congress in the midterm elections, Republicans said they understood that the American people want jobs. Since the midterm election, the Lame Duck session and the swearing in of the new 112th Congress on January 5, 2011, there has not been one single jobs bill to be introduced by our new Republican Congress.

And the best part of all.

Instead, the Republican Congress has been busy introducing bills to end health care reform, end health insurance for pre-existing conditions, and change the definition of rape and other unrelated job measures.

 

[Foxton]

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What is Mitch's idea? Is it a secret???????

If you elect him president, he'll tell you.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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If you elect him president, he'll tell you.

Yes, and here's why.

Keeping the jobless rate high is part of the plan to re-capture the White House.

 

[unofan]

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So, is the jobs, jobs, jobs bill from the new Republican House the budget slashing? Cause I can't find anything on what they're going to do about jobs. And I'm quoting Boehner here, "Jobs, Jobs, Jobs."

Same thing's going on here in Iowa. The GOP took over the governor's mansion, the state house and nearly the state senate on "jobs, jobs, jobs."

So the first thing the governor did was put on a hiring freeze and threaten to cut 1,000 state employees. The house has introduced anti-judiciary bills, anti-abortion bills, anti-immigrant bills, anti-gay bills, and is trying to kill state funded pre-school. Not a single jobs bill in the bunch.

 

[WeWantMore]

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Not my point.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/02/22/with-g-o-p-help-senate-advances-jobs-bill/

But that is my point. So called "jobs bills" hardly did anything to create jobs during the last Congress. With the success rate "jobs bills" have had, why the heck would you want people to pass more of them?

CBO: Healthcare bill will shrink workforce by 800,000

And from your initial post,

So, is the jobs, jobs, jobs bill from the new Republican House the budget slashing?

So you deny that the budget deficit has any impact on the economy? February is budget season. What exactly were you expecting them to do?

 

[Handyman]

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Indeed. Time for another stimulus I say. It worked so well the first time.

Dont discount it, if the right person goes to Boehner with it and throws in a free golf trip there is a better than average chance he will support it! The only thing more fraudulent than that man's politics is his friggin tan.

 

[Handyman]

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But that is my point. So called "jobs bills" hardly did anything to create jobs during the last Congress. With the success rate "jobs bills" have had, why the heck would you want people to pass more of them?

Then why did they run on it? Why were the elected because of it? If it is such a bad idea seems pretty odd they would have created a platform behind it. If they want us to believe Reaganomics is going to create jobs they need to read a history book or two.

And lets not pretend they are trying to kill health care because the CBO said it would kill jobs, that isnt even in the top 5 reasons they want it repealed and I know you know that.

The GOP said jobs and fiscal responsibility...apparently they are hiding with the WMDs in Iraq

 

[WeWantMore]

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Then why did they run on it? Why were the elected because of it? If it is such a bad idea seems pretty odd they would have created a platform behind it. If they want us to believe Reaganomics is going to create jobs they need to read a history book or two.

And lets not pretend they are trying to kill health care because the CBO said it would kill jobs, that isnt even in the top 5 reasons they want it repealed and I know you know that.

You can't use that word anymore.

Yes, the GOP did run on jobs. Not "jobs bills". Jobs bills are excellent at creating lots of things, but jobs isn't one of them.

 

[Kepler]

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During a recession the out party always runs on "jobs." Republicans run on undoing whatever the Dems just did, Dems run on redoing whatever the Republicans just undid. Whoever wins, they putter around and hope things improve enough that they can run "It's Morning in America" ads for the next election.

 

[Handyman]

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You can't use that word anymore.

Yes, the GOP did run on jobs. Not "jobs bills". Jobs bills are excellent at creating lots of things, but jobs isn't one of them.

KILL...KILL...KILL...KILL...Gopher Coach Jerry KILL...Kill...Kill...Kill SUE ME!

And what you said is true for everything...no bill is really good at creating anything...except debt which is a KILLer

 

[leswp1]

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You can't use that word anymore.
Yes, the GOP did run on jobs. Not "jobs bills". Jobs bills are excellent at creating lots of things, but jobs isn't one of them.

THis made me LOL.

I wonder what is going to happen when they make all these cuts and almost all Americans will lose something that is dear to them as far as funding (and if they don't lose it someone in their family will)- jobs, education, healthcare. Not saying that cuts don't need to be made. I am just dying to see what John Q Publics reaction is to the things they scream we need to do but NIMBY.

 

[Priceless]

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THis made me LOL.

I wonder what is going to happen when they make all these cuts and almost all Americans will lose something that is dear to them as far as funding (and if they don't lose it someone in their family will)- jobs, education, healthcare. Not saying that cuts don't need to be made. I am just dying to see what John Q Publics reaction is to the things they scream we need to do but NIMBY.

 

[dxmnkd316]

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Meh, the wife and I are closing on our first (and god willing, last) house in a month. We'll be "house poor" for a few months - as the down payment's taking a nice chunk of our savings, and buying needed appliances/lawn equipment/fixtures will take what we had left over out the door quickly too.

That said, she's got as stable a job as one can get (public defender) and mine is stable for the next 2 years (judicial clerkship). So we'll build the savings back up fairly quickly. But frankly we'll only keep probably 3 months-worth in liquid savings even after that. The rest will go into IRA's, 401k plans, and mutual funds (and paying down debt quickly - sadly my student loans are first on the block, since their interest rate is higher than both our car loans and our mortgage).

Three is a good initial target for an emergency reserve since it takes people a long time to build up these accounts.

The actual amount you need depends on your situation. If you have a stable (read: gov't) job, you could probably get away with a smaller one. If you're in a volatile industry, you probably need closer to 12 months in reserve.

I hear ya. I'm in a pretty stable situation as an engineer. I've been putting away about 18% a year in retirement and I'm aiming to keep it that way with the house. I'm just terrified about the whole thing. Having debt that large is a new experience. I'm one of those spoiled brats who doesn't have any debt from college or otherwise.

 

[dxmnkd316]

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Meh, the wife and I are closing on our first (and god willing, last) house in a month. We'll be "house poor" for a few months - as the down payment's taking a nice chunk of our savings, and buying needed appliances/lawn equipment/fixtures will take what we had left over out the door quickly too.

That said, she's got as stable a job as one can get (public defender) and mine is stable for the next 2 years (judicial clerkship). So we'll build the savings back up fairly quickly. But frankly we'll only keep probably 3 months-worth in liquid savings even after that. The rest will go into IRA's, 401k plans, and mutual funds (and paying down debt quickly - sadly my student loans are first on the block, since their interest rate is higher than both our car loans and our mortgage).

Three is a good initial target for an emergency reserve since it takes people a long time to build up these accounts.

The actual amount you need depends on your situation. If you have a stable (read: gov't) job, you could probably get away with a smaller one. If you're in a volatile industry, you probably need closer to 12 months in reserve.

I think I sprained something I cringed so hard...

 

[Priceless]

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I think I sprained something I cringed so hard...

Hope you have health insurance.

 

[dxmnkd316]

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Hope you have health insurance.

I do!

I did notice something though... Since 2010 the cost to insurance for my prescription (same one through the entire period) has over doubled in cost. Not blaming Obama or Bush in this case, I was just taken aback that it could increase so quickly. My copay has only gone up about 5-10% in that period. If that.

 

[Tundra]

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LOL

I think the best outcome is a gridlock and shutdown of our government. Or Compromise with bigger deficit next 2 years and GOP victory in 2012 with lower taxes for everyone (especially the wealthy, corporations).

So we're bankrupt, and have to get rid of all entitlement programs. we're still #1 military super power in the world though.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-gop-cuts-20110216,0,2687046.story

Republicans compiled a thick set of proposed cuts last week, but it was rejected by the most conservative House members. Leaders amassed a new set of cuts that would reduce 2011 spending by about $61 billion.

The cuts are concentrated in less than 15% of the federal budget, the portion that funds so-called non defense, discretionary spending including education, health, environmental protection and child services.

The GOP reluctance to cut Pentagon spending became apparent as voting began, when an amendment to cut $18 million in Defense Department operations and maintenance was rejected.

 

[Bakunin]

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Hope you have health insurance.

If he's here illegally, he can just go over to the ER and get treated at the rest of our expense.